why no games with the Klan

[THAC0]

Give it a couple of years, and something like it may get released.
People may start treating games as a proper artistic medium by then.
If gaming makes the effort to be less juvenile, that is.

i certainly hope so.

 

[PuppetMaster]

look at what political correctness has done to us. as long as we hide and avoid racism as a topic it'll only sting that much more when someone springs it up. I don't know about you guys but for me the shock value of Kramer ruining his career all over the stage wore off after the 3rd "N-bomb" I say the sooner we accept the fact racism and those who take it seriously exist, the sooner we can all shrug it off and laugh about the immatureity of it

 

[The Austin]

Because no one outside of America knows who the clan is, it would only appeal to Americans.

 

[data_not_found]

Too soon, i guess racism towards blacks is much worse then the possible genocide of an entire population (WW2). But, i couldn't imagine a good game plot that would involve the KKK, not to mention that sales would dip in those certain southern US states.

Uhhhhh... no. The racism that blacks had to endure before the civil rights era was terrible, yes, but the Nazis were far worse than rednecks with shot guns. Goebbels was a crazy mother fucker that even the KKK would probably dismiss as too fringe.


Also, a game where you played as a KKK member would be fine in my opinion, as long as it didn't glorify their philosophy. Maybe have you fall in love with an Alyx Vance-like love interest and discover the error in your ways? Yeah, it's cliché and obvious, but if they kept the part about finding the error in your ways a secret before launch, maybe racists would buy the game and go "Oh crap. Maybe I'm an asshole. I need to rethink my life for a bit..."

Actually, that would be an awesome game. OI! Bioware! Valve! Double Fine! One of you guys get to work on this!

 

[tkioz]

Incidentally, I've been doing the Klan in history class today, and I couldn't help but wonder what Ku Klux Klan actually [i/]meant[/i]. I mean it doesn't look English, so what is it?

If I remember rightly its from the Greek kyklos meaning circle with a misspelled clan tacked on the end, I guess Americans have been misspelling words to hip for a long time

 

[martin's a madman]

A while back i was pranking a friend and told him that there was an Assassin's Creed spin off in the works where you played a member of the Ku Klux Klan. As i kept talking and the joke got bigger, I told him that you played as a character in a more modern version of the Assassins that were working from within the KKK in the early 20th century. It was a good cover because the klan and complete freedom of movement in the south, and access to powerful political figures at the time. But a group of civil rights workers have stolen a collection of documents that they assume are related to the klan, not knowing that they are really related to the Assassins. Then our hero has to go and trek across the deep south fighting klansmen without blowing your cover and trying to recover the stolen documents.

At this point i understood that i was starting to think that this game might actually be pretty enjoyable, and then i realized that not a single game that i am aware of has ever been in this setting. Why not?

The deep south at the time was full of vast wilderness, dotted with small communities, populated by interesting people, and rife with conflict. Its like a template for every RPG that has ever been made. The klan themselves rode around on horses dressed in sheets calling themselves wizards inflicting violence on others. How is that not a good idea for a villain?
Why hasn't this been touched?

K, i know that racism is a touchy subject for some people and the klan and racism go hand in hand, but really ignoring it isn't going to make it any better. Nazis were a little bit racist too if memory serves, but we shoot the hell out of them in just about every FPS on the market, so why can't we shoot klansmen too?

why?

Actually I think that would be an interesting story of some form of media, Game, Movie, Book, etc. Along the same premise but where you play the perspective of a person from a town plagued by KKK types, but a common belief among the people of your town is that they are wizards or ghosts, or some sort of paranormal entity. I think it would have some interesting rising action.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

You'd have complaints from everyone. Southerners, for perpetuating the stereotype that the South is still racist; African-Americans, because any possible portrayal of the KKK would still be too humanizing for their comfort; and everyone else, for making them play a game set in the South.

 

[Merteg]

There's a game called Ethnic Cleansing.

That game seems like it would be pretty fun.

 

[The Man With the Soap]

Wu-Tang: Shaolin Style [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang:_Shaolin_Style]

That game looks sick! Where can I get a copy? On topic, a game with the Klan in it would do terrible things for the reputation of gaming.

 

[KingPiccolOwned]

Are you serious? The KKK? That is just distasteful. Let's play as fucking Nazis next burning Jews in death camps. After that we can make a game playing as Pol Pot killing his way across Cambodia.

I don't think you understood the concept. The OP was describing the concept of a group of Assassins operating within the KKK, thus are likely sleeper agents put there to eliminate an important leader of theirs at some point. Kind of like the points in Velvet Assassin where Violet dressess up as a Nazi nurse to get around a Nazi guard, except stretched out over the course of an entire game, and hopefully better.

Ermm. Ninja'd as well appearently.

Hey I bet it would be Glen Becks favorite game ever. And if people didn't buy it then he'd just call them communists, so I bet it would sell a ton.

I don't think you understood what the OP was getting at. Also I bet you are just saying that because he is a Republican resent that remark.

 

[jboking]

It probably has something to do with the clan not being threatening anymore. In fact, they are closer to pathetic. We want to fight someone that seems like a threat like Nazis, the Government, or Aliens.

that makes sense, honestly the closet thing to an actual fight was when the FEDS kicked them out of geogia and they didn't make so much as a mousefart on the way out.

But frankly I'd still rather have them as enemies than random fictitious middle eastern enemies. It's just gonna make things worse on us pigeon holing ethic groups. god there's irony in that.

Maybe we should have a game where the terrorists are all Caucasian frat boys, they would still pose more of a threat than the KKK do today.

 

[Swaki]

because america hasn't defeated the kkk, infact they are an american organization , the nazis where german and they got beaten and now germany is one of the best country's in the world (imo don't yell at me), thats like a freaking fairytale.

but the kkk on the other hand is still active, but who knows, maybe in 2222 they will make a game about that, but for now we have to live without interesting new games because housemothers and every television news show will flame at it.

 

[internetzealot1]

What, playing as black guy who goes and tries to destroy the clan? the blacks didn't even put up a resistance.

 

[Swaki]

You'd have complaints from everyone. Southerners, for perpetuating the stereotype that the South is still racist; African-Americans, because any possible portrayal of the KKK would still be too humanizing for their comfort; and everyone else, for making them play a game set in the South.

l4d2 is set in the south^^, and if everybody else can handle getting their culture molested by game developer whit a smile why shouldn't people from south north america? thats an even more offensive stereotype that they would start yelling and have a hoedown strike untill "them damn Europeans would stop making them mean games, stupid Frenchmen". and i hardly think any black people out there would be offended by a game dealing whit racism, and even if they where i would think that they would still be trying to convince Hollywood to stop it first before going after the game industry.

 

[KingPiccolOwned]

Because the KKK deserve no recognition. Why not just have a Wii mini-game of racist beatings? American History X anyone?
Seriously, the KKK are just a bunch of racist idiots, whose leader is retardedly named the Grand Wizard (I shit you not). They should be preferably ignored or belittled.
You couldn't have the KKK in a game without it being done in either bad-taste or just a mindless frat-boy overtone to the whole thing.

That's ridiculous we play tons of war games where we go and soot up hoards of Nazis and they were worse than the KKK. The point is that they do deserve to be acknowledged... If only for long enough to point out what bastards they were.

 

[DracoSuave]

If you can't understand why it would be a bad idea to make a game based on the KKK, then you are part of the reason it is a bad idea to make a game based on the KKK.