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Paulie92

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JourneyThroughHell said:
strum4h said:
Потому что Россия является удивительным
Google translate, huh?

I would try to fix that, but I'm sort of lazy. But, really, that last word is incorrect.
interestingly when google searching the phrase this post was the first entry

OP: because Russians have a reputation of being cold and callous? *shrugs it doesn't really bother me
 

Ashcrexl

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i have a better theory. americans secretly all love russian accents and the russian language. but most male gamers aged 18-25 cant relate to russians, so russians cannot be the protagonists. so they must be enemies! its basically fan service, i guess.

valid theory?
 

ScottocS

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Would your average american gamer be shocked/disgusted to have Russian's as the good guy's destroying the U.S.A for their intolerable actions and smothering of the world?

Im guessing that sort of game wouldn't sell very well. :S (/rant)

Every game, book or movie I have ever interacted with containing Russian's as the "bad guys" or "good guys" I find a lot more intriguing than your usual AAA title with American's kicking ass. I respect the character and personalities much more when they're not put this way. :D

I guess I am a small part of an audience that doesn't want anymore typical "American Badassery" in my AAA Release. But a larger American audience is what they are catered too eh? :D
 

nomis101uk

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Short answer: laziness.

Long answer: Laziness. There is no country in the world that can threaten America, so they go back to the last enemy they had which actually could threaten them. Plus it caters to the many American morons who still see the world through anti-commie Cold War glasses. And its still pretty recent history.
The other lazy option is China, because they could have similar relative military strength in the nearish future. Though China won't actually start anything because they just wants to sell shit. Make clothes not war is their moto.
I think just not playing as Americans would open things up a little to new enemies. A game where you get to fight a big evil imperialist America would spice things up and would sell like hot-cakes in the Middle East and South America! It would be on every Palestinians Christmas list...
 

Vryyk

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crazybombard said:
Hey,don't get me wrong, I love the Ruskies just as much as the next guy (Vodka anyone?) they are just the only competent country to actually make a dent into america if America were to ever be invaded.

My (other) theory is that it is the battle of the fittest. Look at it this way, neither countries have ever been conquered (Napoleon and Hitler for Russia, Britain for America), so it all boils down to who is the best at staying unconquerable. Which just makes for a good game.

To be fair, England wasn't really trying to conquer us as much as they were trying to get back their stolen property. :) But we stole it too good. And then we messed up their language.
 

Monkfish Acc.

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Why not? The arms race and Cold War never really ended. We just decided to stop threatening each other.
All the major superpowers are competing to see who has the biggest weaponpenis. Russia is America's biggest threat, so they go for those guys.

Painting them as assholes makes them feel better about picking on such an incredibly poor country.

Do not quote me I am drunk and do not even know what I am saying.
 

Vryyk

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nomis101uk said:
Short answer: laziness.

Long answer: Laziness. There is no country in the world that can threaten America, so they go back to the last enemy they had which actually could threaten them. Plus it caters to the many American morons who still see the world through anti-commie Cold War glasses. And its still pretty recent history.
The other lazy option is China, because they could have similar relative military strength in the nearish future. Though China won't actually start anything because they just wants to sell shit. Make clothes not war is their moto.
I think just not playing as Americans would open things up a little to new enemies. A game where you get to fight a big evil imperialist America would spice things up and would sell like hot-cakes in the Middle East and South America! It would be on every Palestinians Christmas list...
Just so you know, not as many Americans are actually paranoid, obese, warmongers as people seem to think. In my experience it's just the vocal minority and those idiots on news stations who give that impression. Also, most Americans I have met actually think of Russians as bad ass vodka-drinking bear-riders. That's a good thing in my opinion :).
 

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I guess the Russian is a convenient label for EVIL!

...Or deep down inside,you American are xenophobic.

*Since they always cool,and not throwing tantrum about being bad guys in your games and movie,i guess that makes them an okay people.
 

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Spartan1175 said:
Whats the deal with games like MW2,BFBC2, and Black ops having Russians as the antagonists? Have game writers really run out of ideas?
My theories are:

1. They were America's supposed bad guys in the Cold War
2. Even dumbasses can enjoy the ideological differences between Capitalism and Communism
3. Russia seems laid back enough to not get upset about being portrayed as the bad guy. I think other contenders for the role might not be so nice about it in this day and age.
4. Russian/former communist bloc country accents are sexy
5. I don't have a 5, but 4 seemed like a stupid place to leave off.
 

nomis101uk

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Vryyk said:
nomis101uk said:
Short answer: laziness.

Long answer: Laziness. There is no country in the world that can threaten America, so they go back to the last enemy they had which actually could threaten them. Plus it caters to the many American morons who still see the world through anti-commie Cold War glasses. And its still pretty recent history.
The other lazy option is China, because they could have similar relative military strength in the nearish future. Though China won't actually start anything because they just wants to sell shit. Make clothes not war is their moto.
I think just not playing as Americans would open things up a little to new enemies. A game where you get to fight a big evil imperialist America would spice things up and would sell like hot-cakes in the Middle East and South America! It would be on every Palestinians Christmas list...
Just so you know, not as many Americans are actually paranoid, obese, warmongers as people seem to think. In my experience it's just the vocal minority and those idiots on news stations who give that impression. Also, most Americans I have met actually think of Russians as bad ass vodka-drinking bear-riders. That's a good thing in my opinion :).
I know, I know. But America does seem to elect a disproportionate amount of these paranoid warmongers into office.

Hey, now there's an idea for a new enemy in games. Paranoid, evangelical warmongers take over the country and launch the Crusades Part II! And only one country can stop them...Papua New Guinea!
 

jshap243

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It's kind of simple really I think.
We've exhausted every other option of people gamers want to fight. Germany and Japan have been done too much, Korea has been milked, the Taliban is too controversial because we're fighting them right now, Mexico is unrealistic, and nobody wants to fight the Australians. So that leaves Russia, except now we've run that dry too :p
 

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seryoga said:
JourneyThroughHell said:
strum4h said:
Потому что Россия является удивительным
Google translate, huh?

I would try to fix that, but I'm sort of lazy. But, really, that last word is incorrect.
It says because Russia is Awesome, and it is, so stop with your constant intolerance towards the Russian culture and we'll stop making fun of your stupid accents and disgusting food
Umm, he was saying that Google Translate isn't very grammatically correct, and it's a pretty half ass program in translating anything.

Copy paste a sentence in a different language and translate it to English and you'll see what I mean.

Ashcrexl said:
i have a better theory. americans secretly all love russian accents and the russian language. but most male gamers aged 18-25 cant relate to russians, so russians cannot be the protagonists. so they must be enemies! its basically fan service, i guess.

valid theory?
Close but no cigar, truth is they just want their women, and considering American women I can see why..=P
 

Vryyk

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nomis101uk said:
I know, I know. But America does seem to elect a disproportionate amount of these paranoid warmongers into office.

Hey, now there's an idea for a new enemy in games. Paranoid, evangelical warmongers take over the country and launch the Crusades Part II! And only one country can stop them...Papua New Guinea!
It would help if we had more than two choices for president. We keep getting bad draws and no good alternatives have any chance of winning. Like you said, we end up with too many of these guys messing shit up for everyone. Also your game idea made me laugh.
 

AbsoluteVirtue18

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Because they're f**king games. Seriously, relax.

I mean, both Russia and the US acted like jerks after WW2. Jerks are known to pick at each other.
 

moose_man

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Because they can FIGHT BACK. The more recent 'wars' haven't been as interesting as the ol' WW series or it's Cold War spinoff.
 

Brawndo

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I would like to see a military shooter game that does not involve America, Russia, the UK, or China. Recent history is rich with conflicts that could be exploited by the gaming industry:

India-Pakistan conflicts
Sri Lanka civil war
Iran-Iraq War
Six-Day War or the Yom Kippur War

Or my personal favorite, the Ethiopian-Eritrean War:

Imagine playing an Ethiopian conscript ripped from his peaceful life of sheep herding and thrust into the front line trenches of Eritrea. All he has is his trusty AK-47 and a chipped bayonet to fend off waves of Eritrean conscripts, antiquated T-55 tanks, and barely flying MiG-17s. He fights with utmost zeal, for he knows if he is injured, the Napoleonic-era medical care on the battlefield will surely mean he will have to have surgery without anesthetics and will likely die of infection. The final level is our hero trying to stop the international court from awarding the disputed territory to the Eritreans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eritrean%E2%80%93Ethiopian_War
 

UberNoodle

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Because American war games are essentially just propaganda and its in the best interests (it would appear) of this propaganda machine, to keep the Cold War fear going.