Why so much hate for Modern Warfare 2?

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RAAAAAR

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Seldon2639 said:
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For PC gamers it is no dedicated servers period. Activision and Infinity Ward are just fucking huge stinking piles of crap for screwing the PC community like that. I don't think many console gamers care though as there never were dedicated servers. Also they killed Modding the game which is an obviously ploy to kill competition coming from the public. If there is no Modding they figure people are more likely to buy DLC and shit for the game which I am sure is coming soon enough. They also don't like the fact that the Modding community extends the life of a game so the PC gamers are less likely to buy the newest version of the game the next time around. I mean really, who here played Oblivion on the PC for 100+ hours past when the official gameplay ended? Mods RULE. Publishers like Activision HATE Modders!
I think that it's less "they suck and hate the players", and more "it's difficult to justify the expense and time of adding features to appeal to a smaller demographic, and one shown to be more likely to be petulant little turds". And, yes, developers like making money, the PC gaming community already pulls crap like trying to justify their piracy, and then doing more of it out of spite. That's like beating up a kid, taking his lunch money, and complaining when he stops bringing money to school.

Until the PC gaming master race is able to go, hat in hand, to development studios and say "we're sorry about the whole stealing your games thing, so we're going to try to stem that tide", it'll be thoroughly unsurprising to see fewer and fewer resources being spent making sure you're happy.

And, yes, mods extend the life of the game. But to whose benefit is that? It doesn't benefit the studio, it only benefits the players. If I'm a studio, I'd have to be asking myself why in the world I would want to do things to benefit the players who are going to steal my game.
So, according to this, all PC gamers are pirates, it costs money to not cripple a feature that could have been structured the exact same way as it was in the previous game, and that games are not about fun or enjoyment, but monetary gain for corporations.

You'll have to forgive me if I disagree.
 

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Whenever a game receives any amount of hype, there are people who hate the game just because of the fact that it is popular. Im sure 40% of the hate comes from people who have never even played the game, and just trash talk it simply because it is a popular game, and they want to draw attention to themselves by non conforming and downgrading an all around good game without having any proof to back it up.
 

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1 IW removed the Dedicated server support for Pc. That's what made PC - PC!
2 YOU NEVER ANNOUNCE YOUR EXPANSIONS BEFORE YOU RELEASE THE GAME!
3 Making the game overpriced just because it will sell like E in rave party is wrong.
and my personal opinion:
4 Why are the Kill streaks left?
 

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Because of Bobby Kotick's trolling, a variety of setbacks with the PC including the loss of dedicated servers, its popularity/hype, and that so many threads were made about it. Also this:
TZer0 said:
I'll answer with this picture containing text. It sums up my feelings towards that game.

 

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Seldon2639 said:
Until the PC gaming master race is able to go, hat in hand, to development studios and say "we're sorry about the whole stealing your games thing
600,000 to 1,000,000 xbox users were banned from XBL for playing illegal copies but it's only PC gamers that pirate games?
 

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i dont know how to spoiler tag so... SPOILERS


I guess i am the only one who was super excited when he saw soap as his captain or Price alive. I just havent seen anyone on this site saying that they liked the story.(you don't judge one by its length)
 

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inx7 said:
i dont know how to spoiler tag so... SPOILERS
[.spoiler] Text goes here. [/.spoiler]

Just change the .spoiler in both boxes to spoiler.
 

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It seems okay...when I played it. It's not the second coming of for the fps, the first being Doom, nor is it a sign of the apocalypse for gaming, which was the motion controller.
 

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RAAAAAR said:
So, according to this, all PC gamers are pirates, it costs money to not cripple a feature that could have been structured the exact same way as it was in the previous game, and that games are not about fun or enjoyment, but monetary gain for corporations.

You'll have to forgive me if I disagree.
I didn't say all, they're just far more likely to be. I'd bet dimes to dollars it's more than two-to-one. And, not for nothing, but it's not about the "structure" of the game, it's about the cost of the servers themselves, for no extra monetary gain.

And, really, you think that game companies spend their time saying "we really want every player to be happy" rather than "we really want more money"? More power to you, I guess, but I trust nothing except that gamers want to have games for as little as they can reasonably pay, and companies want to make as much money as they reasonably can.

Monkeyman8 said:
*rolls eyes* oh look another know nothing.

1. It took substantially more effort to put in the match making bullshit than it would've to just reuse the perfectly awesome net code from CD 4.

2. The PC gaming community isn't the only one that pirates games. you can pirate games for pretty much every gaming device out there.

3. this'll do nothing to stem piracy of the game it'll just turn a lot of people off fro buying it.

4. you last point's just stupid. Some people pirate games so let's fuck over everyong great logic.
1. Um... I was talking about the cost of the dedicated servers... Which they don't get any extra money for... Unlike online through XBL. So... Yeah.

2. Again, the capacity to pirate games, and the sheer magnitude of the amount of piracy, is a lot of the difference. Not to mention (and this is entirely personal vitriol) that I don't remember another group saying "we're going to pirate Spore because it's privacy protected, and that's the developer's fault, fnar"

3. Yeah, but why put the money into providing a service to a community which is already difficult to please, and also pirates your games? I'm talking about putative punishment now, not actually trying to correct the behavior

4. Heh. That's kind of how it works. Pirates steal the games, the companies bristle and try to add more protections. The PC gaming community, instead of saying "oops, our bad" saying "OMGZ, you guys are the suxxors, I hate this piracy protection crap, so I'll pirate the game, because you deserve it".

GBlair88 said:
600,000 to 1,000,000 xbox users were banned from XBL for playing illegal copies but it's only PC gamers that pirate games?
Never said "only", please re-read my post. I noted that the significant community of PC gamers who seem to say "if you have the gall to try to protect your game from piracy, we'll pirate it just to send a message". The fact that the message they send appears to be "we're a bunch of petulant tossers" isn't lost on me.
 

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The more people buy a game, the more people hate a game.

I loved it, by the way.
 

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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/6768-Its-the-End-of-the-War-as-We-Know-It

summarizes things very nicely about the issue here.
this is what makes the hate real and special.
 

Jamienra

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I loves what ive played. The campaign feels like your in a film really. it just kept getting better and better. then ended on a massive high. i dont know whats wrong with it at all. although i can see why people are upset about PC multiplayer. but i happily bought the game just for the campaign to be honest.
 

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Lukeje said:
TZer0 said:
I'll answer with this picture containing text. It sums up my feelings towards that game.

Why is LAN play a positive in COD4 yet a negative in MW2?
LAN-play in MW2 doesn't affect your online-xp, while it does in MW1.
 

NickCooley

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Ok seriously I couldn't care less about the PC version as I own an xbox but for gods sake man this is like the fifty millionth [/hyperbole] thread on the game. You're not flogging a dead horse you're beating a thin smear on the pavement.