Why the Hate for ME3 ending? *spoiler alert*

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TitanAtlas said:
I don't understand why people hate that. I loved it. Very much. It fitted, and maybe i see things differently, but you are all fools for hating such powerfull, and epic ending. The series ended perfectly. Everything came into a full circle... and i only watched 1 of the 3 possible endings.
Eeesh.

1. God Child is basically an exposition fairy. Why not have Harbinger serve this purpose? Or anything other than a ghostly child. The voice acting was bad, and having an exposition dump at the pinnacle of the game was doubly bad.
2. Shepard spends the entire series arguing against inevitable outcomes given to him/her by godlike AIs. At the very end, a godlike AI says "here are some inevitable outcomes, pick 1" and Shepard says "Ok!". Was he/she tired? This is OOC and slightly absurd.
3. Clumsy attempt at shoe horning some theme into Mass Effect. Theme was never the strength of the series, characters were.
4. None of the endings take into account any of the choices you've made throughout the three games. As this was arguably Mass Effect's most significant claim to fame, it's hardly surprising people feel upset.
5. Why is Joker fleeing the system? When did this happen? Confusing and never explained.
6. Why is the crew with him? When did this happen? Confusing and never explained. You can even see EDI get off the crashed Normandy on "destroy all synthetics" ending, and/or crew members who were with you when Harbinger destroyed your entire force. EXTREMELY confusing and never explained.
7. The voice acting with the old man/little boy at the very end was atrocious.
8. Shepard is wearing different armor/carrying different weapons after getting knocked out/wounded. Confusing, never explained.
9. In one of the endings, Shepard wakes up/takes a breath whilst lying in some smoky rubble. Shepard was on board a space station that blew up.

Now, it's fine if you like the endings, that is your prerogative. God knows we have some ridiculous OTT criticism of Bioware on these forums, and I'm not the type of guy to deny someone their enjoyment of something. But "you are all fools"? Seriously? You're telling me you can't understand ANY of the complaints people have?
You have valid complaints, although I disagree with a couple (don't want to say more to avoid rambling a bit). The reaction he or she is possibly expressing is towards many gamers who were simply mad because they didn't get a boring simple Hollywood ending. The ending is still controversial and debatable, but the initial reaction of many was just flat out immature, and it's the type of thing that holds games back as an artistic medium in their own right.
 

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So i played the Mass Effect 3, and liked it. Some things i liked some things hated (like a certain salarian sacrifice... shine on you, you epic fly eating bastard) :(

But after playing it and reaching the end (i only saw one of the endings), i can say i really loved how everything turned out to be. But then i went to the escapist... so... much... hate...

I don't get it. I chose the organic/ synthetic unification, and i loved it.

From the moment sheperd rushes to the laser (many people say, sheperd died, and thats because he's witouth his team. I assumed the lasers, since they were killing everyone they just knocked the teammates unconscious or something), the final talk against the illusive man, the last view of the war (anderson and sheperd moment), and even 'Jason' (the kid at the crucible that somehow reminds me of Jason of Heavy Rain). I loved every single moment, every single choice, i liked Sheperd was alone in this last decision, and that he was tottaly Effed Up (shows me he's not some kind of god impervious to every damage).

I LOVED those moments. Made me feel like even in the end, when everything seemed lost, he fought till the end. Till the last strenght.

And the ending i chose was perfect for me. The unification of machine and flesh. A new stream of DNA, a new type of evolution for every creature in the galaxy. The mass relays were destroyed (yes kind of sad), but Synthetics (like the geth) now have a new stream of DNA, they can now feel, and evolve. Same for every single other creature. AND the Reapers were destroyed.

I would love to see snips of the characters to see how they are doing in this new life, but don't take me wrong that ending was perfect. Even to that last moment of the man and the kid talking. Made me show the future was at peace and harmony. No war or destruction, just... peace. Perfection. A good hopefull future, in wich even the kid says he dreams to go to the stars, and the old man telling stories of "The Sheperd", like our character was the Sheperd that led all the races into a new bright future, a icon, a hero of the ages.

I don't understand why people hate that. I loved it. Very much. It fitted, and maybe i see things differently, but you are all fools for hating such powerfull, and epic ending. The series ended perfectly. Everything came into a full circle... and i only watched 1 of the 3 possible endings.

Hope i don't get too much hate for seeing things differently ;)
You didn't notice all the plot holes?
 

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I did not like the ending. I don't mind that Shepard dies, what I mind is the contrived choices which negate everything that had anything to do with any choices you had made through three different games.

Effective Military Strength? Why not just show up with the Normandy and a small shuttle full of senile Hanar...the entire situation would have went down exactly the same way.

Oh and lets not forget that every ending, regardless of the limited variance in the choice, takes down the entire Mass Relay network galaxy wide, effectively sending the galaxy into a dark age and regressing galactic civilization by a thousand years at best. I unite an entire galaxy to doom it to extinction and genetic bottlenecking anyways?

With these kinds conclusive results of my "choices", and I use that word extremely lightly, I might as well have just stayed at the bar and let the Reapers do their thing. Cause it would have added up to exactly the same thing.

Mass Effect 3 was 99.5% awesome, 0.5% WTF JUST HAPPENED? And that 0.5% is so pervasively destructive that the other 99.5% nearly doesn't matter.
 

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There are several things wrong with the ending that have nothing to do with the tone. Having a tragic end to a series is perfectly fine if done well but Bioware fumbled in a couple of key areas that ultimately makes the ending unsatisfying and anticlimactic.

1) Pacing. The entire last part of the game feels rushed and sloppy. The player is dropped in on London, plays hoard mode to defend the missiles, takes the magic beam up to the Citadel for a ten minute debate with the Illusive Man. Its as if the writers were rushing the player towards the end so they could hit whatever button they chose and end the game. The action builds artificially fast and segregates the action from the story.

2) Anticlimax. The end of Mass Effect 3 offers a flimsy conclusion to what was a previously epic series. This is characterized with the lack of a final confrontation with the chief antagonist that offers player resolution. The player fights Kai Leng and the Illusive Man but neither is Shepard's archenemy. Shepard's nemesis is Harbinger; the Reaper that kidnapped scores of humans and sought Shepard out personally. Harbinger appears only briefly at the end and even then, there is no direct confrontation between our hero and the villain. Kai Leng and the Illusive Man were shoehorned in as attempts to create a Big Bad but players who had played through 1 and 2 have a vested interest in taking down Harbinger personally.

3) Resolution. Typically in tragic works, there is a resolution after the hero's death to show how his or her actions affected the world they were in. In Mass Effect 3, there is no resolution. Shepard sacrificed his/herself, there was a galactic lightshow and somehow the Normandy crashed on a distant planet. We never see the cost of Shepard's decision or what was gained and lost by the different choices. The reason that people say that the endings are all the same is because, from the player's perspective, they are virtually indistinguishable. No matter what you choose, Reapers go bye-bye, the relays are destroyed and your crew is stranded. Shepard's decisions are not shown to have any impact on the post-game and, for all intents and purposes, all the endings are exactly the same.
You described what I'm feeling better than I could. Thank you.

After the fantastic buildup in Acts I and II, I was really let down by Act III. I never expected Shepherd to go toe-to-toe with Harbinger directly, but the Horde-mode battle at the missile launchers followed by a conversation with the Illusive man and Deus Ex:HR choice was a complete letdown.

By the way, someone that has seen the previously cut up script - why was Jester flying away with the party in the plane? They were all on the ground fighting in the Battle of London...how did they get there? Why was he running? Where was he running too? Huh?
 

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TitanAtlas said:
*Snip*

i only watched 1 of the 3 possible endings.

Hope i don't get too much hate for seeing things differently ;)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to http://n4g.com/news/956032/mass-effect-3-endings-guide this site says you achieved one of sixteen possible endings. Carry on.
 

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andrat said:
TitanAtlas said:
*Snip*

i only watched 1 of the 3 possible endings.

Hope i don't get too much hate for seeing things differently ;)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to http://n4g.com/news/956032/mass-effect-3-endings-guide this site says you achieved one of sixteen possible endings. Carry on.
This is incorrect, there are only 3 endings with very, and I mean extremely subtle differences based on your EMS rating. The cinematics are exactly the same for all three endings, barring the color of the Crucible burst, and whether Earth is destroyed entirely, the buildings and soldiers are killed but Earth survives, or Earth and its remaining infrastructure and the soldiers survive.

16 endings? Maybe, if you count very subtle variants of the same ending and of course the color of the Crucible burst.
 
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That chart that keeps getting passed around counts keeping or destroying the Collector base as a variation to the endings, when all it does in actuality is slightly altering the values required for the endings. According to all recent reports there are 3 main endings, with 7 small variations:

1. Destroy:
1: Earth is destroyed, Shepard dies.
2: Earth is devastated, Shepard dies.
3: Earth is relatively okay, Shepard dies.
4: Earth is relatively okay, Shepard survives.

2. Control:
1: Earth is devastated, Shepard dies.
2: Earth is relatively okay, Shepard dies.

3. Synthetics:
1: Earth is relatively okay, Shepard dies.

The fate of the Mass Relays and the Normandy are the same in all endings.
 

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TitanAtlas said:
So i played the Mass Effect 3, and liked it. Some things i liked some things hated (like a certain salarian sacrifice... shine on you, you epic fly eating bastard) :(

But after playing it and reaching the end (i only saw one of the endings), i can say i really loved how everything turned out to be. But then i went to the escapist... so... much... hate...

I don't get it. I chose the organic/ synthetic unification, and i loved it.

From the moment sheperd rushes to the laser (many people say, sheperd died, and thats because he's witouth his team. I assumed the lasers, since they were killing everyone they just knocked the teammates unconscious or something), the final talk against the illusive man, the last view of the war (anderson and sheperd moment), and even 'Jason' (the kid at the crucible that somehow reminds me of Jason of Heavy Rain). I loved every single moment, every single choice, i liked Sheperd was alone in this last decision, and that he was tottaly Effed Up (shows me he's not some kind of god impervious to every damage).

I LOVED those moments. Made me feel like even in the end, when everything seemed lost, he fought till the end. Till the last strenght.

And the ending i chose was perfect for me. The unification of machine and flesh. A new stream of DNA, a new type of evolution for every creature in the galaxy. The mass relays were destroyed (yes kind of sad), but Synthetics (like the geth) now have a new stream of DNA, they can now feel, and evolve. Same for every single other creature. AND the Reapers were destroyed.

I would love to see snips of the characters to see how they are doing in this new life, but don't take me wrong that ending was perfect. Even to that last moment of the man and the kid talking. Made me show the future was at peace and harmony. No war or destruction, just... peace. Perfection. A good hopefull future, in wich even the kid says he dreams to go to the stars, and the old man telling stories of "The Sheperd", like our character was the Sheperd that led all the races into a new bright future, a icon, a hero of the ages.

I don't understand why people hate that. I loved it. Very much. It fitted, and maybe i see things differently, but you are all fools for hating such powerfull, and epic ending. The series ended perfectly. Everything came into a full circle... and i only watched 1 of the 3 possible endings.

Hope i don't get too much hate for seeing things differently ;)
Because synthesis turns everyone into reapers, and you essentially accomplished the reapers goals without all the fighting. Also it dosn't solve anything that the starchild brings up. It just ends the current cycle. Nothing is there to suggest that the reapers DO NOT RETURN to harvest everyone in the next cycle with the argument that: Hybrid organics might make pure synthetics.

The complaint is there is no ending. There is no culmination of choice. Either the geth lived, the quarians won or you organised a union and nothing Shepard did up until the end of the game mattered. Because the only choice that matters is what color your beam has in the end.
 

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sacrifice has no meaning if it's forced upon you. Dragon Age 1 had the best example of this. two possible endings, neither 'wrong' or 'evil'. Both of them good endings that have excellent resolutions, one with sacrifice the other where you live but the future is uncertain.

This allows us to actually have a choice, for that choice to have weight and importance.
 

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It's the illusion of choice.

You go through ME1, ME2, and ME3 and hundreds of galaxy changing choices...

...only to end up with an Ending-Tron 3000 machine that says "PRESS A BUTTON TO CHOOSE ONE OF THESE ENDINGS" while disregarding all your past choices.
 

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TitanAtlas said:
So i played the Mass Effect 3, and liked it. Some things i liked some things hated (like a certain salarian sacrifice... shine on you, you epic fly eating bastard) :(

But after playing it and reaching the end (i only saw one of the endings), i can say i really loved how everything turned out to be. But then i went to the escapist... so... much... hate...

I don't get it. I chose the organic/ synthetic unification, and i loved it.

From the moment sheperd rushes to the laser (many people say, sheperd died, and thats because he's witouth his team. I assumed the lasers, since they were killing everyone they just knocked the teammates unconscious or something), the final talk against the illusive man, the last view of the war (anderson and sheperd moment), and even 'Jason' (the kid at the crucible that somehow reminds me of Jason of Heavy Rain). I loved every single moment, every single choice, i liked Sheperd was alone in this last decision, and that he was tottaly Effed Up (shows me he's not some kind of god impervious to every damage).

I LOVED those moments. Made me feel like even in the end, when everything seemed lost, he fought till the end. Till the last strenght.

And the ending i chose was perfect for me. The unification of machine and flesh. A new stream of DNA, a new type of evolution for every creature in the galaxy. The mass relays were destroyed (yes kind of sad), but Synthetics (like the geth) now have a new stream of DNA, they can now feel, and evolve. Same for every single other creature. AND the Reapers were destroyed.

I would love to see snips of the characters to see how they are doing in this new life, but don't take me wrong that ending was perfect. Even to that last moment of the man and the kid talking. Made me show the future was at peace and harmony. No war or destruction, just... peace. Perfection. A good hopefull future, in wich even the kid says he dreams to go to the stars, and the old man telling stories of "The Sheperd", like our character was the Sheperd that led all the races into a new bright future, a icon, a hero of the ages.

I don't understand why people hate that. I loved it. Very much. It fitted, and maybe i see things differently, but you are all fools for hating such powerfull, and epic ending. The series ended perfectly. Everything came into a full circle... and i only watched 1 of the 3 possible endings.

Hope i don't get too much hate for seeing things differently ;)
From what I heard it is not the ending per say but how it is presented. Plus the multiple ending are kinda like "re-skins". I can see how people can be disappointed but at the end of the day it is only a game at the end of the day.
 

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ChrisRedfield92 said:
You didn't notice all the plot holes?
Unless my memory fails me, he also didn't notice that the reapers didn't die. I could swear I saw them take off and fly away from earth.
 

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From what I heard it is not the ending per say but how it is presented. Plus the multiple ending are kinda like "re-skins". I can see how people can be disappointed but at the end of the day it is only a game at the end of the day.
And book is only a book and cat is only a cat. Can keep it up for infinity (and infinity is only infinity). Doesn't change the fact that if a game aspires to tell a story it should know better how the structure of a story works.
I don't know how much of it it's BioWare's fault and how much it's the investors pushing the "RELEASE GAME NAU" button, but what happened to ME3 is pretty much one of biggest, if not the biggest, wasted opportunity in games as story telling medium.

With all the choices in ME3 alone, with how we were encouraged to gather up an army of different races, gather all the most obscure fleets (including Elcor and Volus corps) why we didn't get to see any of that?
Even keeping the pretty absurd Catalyst endings, why not show us the aftermath of the biggest war in ME universe? They could do so much with it, starting from the cheer of all the troops to a minute of silence for the hero, then the shock as they all realize the relays are destroyed, that all those weird species are not stuck on devastated Earth and can't really travel outside of Sol system, back to their homeworlds. Why not shows us how the civilizations welcome a new day in the post-war rubble? Why not show "month later" scene when they build a memorial monument for Shepard and his/hers crew?

Everything was there, they had the build up they had the momentum... and then they messed it up with completely idiotic scene of random Normandy and nothing else. Let's not even talk about the post-credits bit, because that part was the biggest BS a storyteller can pull off and is simply disgraceful for the writer who came up with it. He (or She) should be banned from holding a pen ever again.

I didn't play Mass Effect series for gameplay elements. The game was never strong on it. It was simplistic and hardly challenging, just yet-another-cover-shooter. It was strong on the storytelling, and yet they managed to invalidate it in last 15 minutes.
 

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The point of having a cosmic horror style enemy like the reapers is that their motives are incomprehensible to us. The Catalyst destroys everything that is psychologically terrifying about the reapers, and gives us an enemy that is merely physically frightening.
 

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TitanAtlas said:
I don't get it. I chose the organic/ synthetic unification, and i loved it.
I choose that one because I knew going in that the endings were kind of sucky. It had a decent Battlestar Galactica starting over kind of thing and it at least made my decision to sacrifice Tali's people make some sort of sense.

The problem is that all the endings are basically the same with civilization having to essentially start over after the destruction of the relays. If you agonized over whether or not to cure the Genophage and are curious how that worked out... well, you'll be none the wiser after the game ends, because they (and every other race) are reduced to being war assets and nothing more.
 

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Well, at least the endings were a clear anti-war message. Sloppy work, for the most part, but it did make people talk, think and debate, and it has a point: war and wastefulness never pays of in the end for neither party involved, people need to get along.
 

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TitanAtlas said:
So i played the Mass Effect 3, and liked it. Some things i liked some things hated (like a certain salarian sacrifice... shine on you, you epic fly eating bastard) :(

But after playing it and reaching the end (i only saw one of the endings), i can say i really loved how everything turned out to be. But then i went to the escapist... so... much... hate...

I don't get it. I chose the organic/ synthetic unification, and i loved it.

From the moment sheperd rushes to the laser (many people say, sheperd died, and thats because he's witouth his team. I assumed the lasers, since they were killing everyone they just knocked the teammates unconscious or something), the final talk against the illusive man, the last view of the war (anderson and sheperd moment), and even 'Jason' (the kid at the crucible that somehow reminds me of Jason of Heavy Rain). I loved every single moment, every single choice, i liked Sheperd was alone in this last decision, and that he was tottaly Effed Up (shows me he's not some kind of god impervious to every damage).

I LOVED those moments. Made me feel like even in the end, when everything seemed lost, he fought till the end. Till the last strenght.

And the ending i chose was perfect for me. The unification of machine and flesh. A new stream of DNA, a new type of evolution for every creature in the galaxy. The mass relays were destroyed (yes kind of sad), but Synthetics (like the geth) now have a new stream of DNA, they can now feel, and evolve. Same for every single other creature. AND the Reapers were destroyed.

I would love to see snips of the characters to see how they are doing in this new life, but don't take me wrong that ending was perfect. Even to that last moment of the man and the kid talking. Made me show the future was at peace and harmony. No war or destruction, just... peace. Perfection. A good hopefull future, in wich even the kid says he dreams to go to the stars, and the old man telling stories of "The Sheperd", like our character was the Sheperd that led all the races into a new bright future, a icon, a hero of the ages.

I don't understand why people hate that. I loved it. Very much. It fitted, and maybe i see things differently, but you are all fools for hating such powerfull, and epic ending. The series ended perfectly. Everything came into a full circle... and i only watched 1 of the 3 possible endings.

Hope i don't get too much hate for seeing things differently ;)


The Game is full of awesome little tidbits, Every conversation with the Main cast is awesome, even better is when they start moving around the ship interacting with each other. When I walked into Joker and Garrus telling Racist jokes to each other I almost laughed a lung out.

The entirety of the game is payoff to everything you did in ME1 and ME2, and up until the very end when Shep confronts the AI it was Great, those moments with Anderson were fuckign Heartwrenching...... but then the Deus EX HR ending gets in the way.

Instead of Confronting Harbinger, you get this shitty kid AI, and all it does is shoe horn you into a decision that kills off any choices you made and leaves you with a myriad of questions, the next 15 minutes of the game from this point, no matter what choice you make completely alter the Galaxy and you are not shown any of it.

In the end my disappointment with the game stems in 3 major areas.

Thematically, it clashes with the overall aspect of the Game, instead of it being a struggle for survival it turns into a philosophical play.

Interactively, your choices are all the same, Reapers are no longer a threat and Galactic Civilization gets boned, no matter what you choose.

From a story telling perspective the ending lacks an Epilogue that explains what happens after the final decision you make completely fucks up the entirety of the Galaxy.

This final decision makes everything you have done completely moot, since it doesnt give you a payoff, and possibly invalidates anything you might have done.

Krogan genophage? Yeah good luck sustaining those fuckers if you cant find suitable worlds for them to colonize.

Quarians and Geth? Well I hope you guys didnt fuck up all those Live Ships cause its going to take a fuckton of time to get back to Ranoch.

Rachni Alive or Dead? Space Spiders dont give a shit either way, they can settle in Venus since they thrive in toxic enviroments.

Asari? these bitches are now the de facto salve whores of the Galaxy because not only did they keep their Protean info a secret and used it to lord it over the rest of the species, but they also FAILED to do anything good with it for more than 1k Years, while their little sluts went off to whore themselves around the Galaxy, so if they like being little whores, then they will have no problem being the fuck toys of every other species.

The Salarians would surprisingly come out of this shit pretty ok, since they only sent their fleet to fight, and Surkesh didnt get fucked over by reapers.

But anything I say now is just wild speculation because we have no Epilogue to tell us what the fuck happens after I make Sheppard use the Mcguffin.

That is why I dislike the ending so much.
 

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boag said:
TitanAtlas said:
So i played the Mass Effect 3, and liked it. Some things i liked some things hated (like a certain salarian sacrifice... shine on you, you epic fly eating bastard) :(

But after playing it and reaching the end (i only saw one of the endings), i can say i really loved how everything turned out to be. But then i went to the escapist... so... much... hate...

I don't get it. I chose the organic/ synthetic unification, and i loved it.

From the moment sheperd rushes to the laser (many people say, sheperd died, and thats because he's witouth his team. I assumed the lasers, since they were killing everyone they just knocked the teammates unconscious or something), the final talk against the illusive man, the last view of the war (anderson and sheperd moment), and even 'Jason' (the kid at the crucible that somehow reminds me of Jason of Heavy Rain). I loved every single moment, every single choice, i liked Sheperd was alone in this last decision, and that he was tottaly Effed Up (shows me he's not some kind of god impervious to every damage).

I LOVED those moments. Made me feel like even in the end, when everything seemed lost, he fought till the end. Till the last strenght.

And the ending i chose was perfect for me. The unification of machine and flesh. A new stream of DNA, a new type of evolution for every creature in the galaxy. The mass relays were destroyed (yes kind of sad), but Synthetics (like the geth) now have a new stream of DNA, they can now feel, and evolve. Same for every single other creature. AND the Reapers were destroyed.

I would love to see snips of the characters to see how they are doing in this new life, but don't take me wrong that ending was perfect. Even to that last moment of the man and the kid talking. Made me show the future was at peace and harmony. No war or destruction, just... peace. Perfection. A good hopefull future, in wich even the kid says he dreams to go to the stars, and the old man telling stories of "The Sheperd", like our character was the Sheperd that led all the races into a new bright future, a icon, a hero of the ages.

I don't understand why people hate that. I loved it. Very much. It fitted, and maybe i see things differently, but you are all fools for hating such powerfull, and epic ending. The series ended perfectly. Everything came into a full circle... and i only watched 1 of the 3 possible endings.

Hope i don't get too much hate for seeing things differently ;)


The Game is full of awesome little tidbits, Every conversation with the Main cast is awesome, even better is when they start moving around the ship interacting with each other. When I walked into Joker and Garrus telling Racist jokes to each other I almost laughed a lung out.

The entirety of the game is payoff to everything you did in ME1 and ME2, and up until the very end when Shep confronts the AI it was Great, those moments with Anderson were fuckign Heartwrenching...... but then the Deus EX HR ending gets in the way.

Instead of Confronting Harbinger, you get this shitty kid AI, and all it does is shoe horn you into a decision that kills off any choices you made and leaves you with a myriad of questions, the next 15 minutes of the game from this point, no matter what choice you make completely alter the Galaxy and you are not shown any of it.

In the end my disappointment with the game stems in 3 major areas.

Thematically, it clashes with the overall aspect of the Game, instead of it being a struggle for survival it turns into a philosophical play.

Interactively, your choices are all the same, Reapers are no longer a threat and Galactic Civilization gets boned, no matter what you choose.

From a story telling perspective the ending lacks an Epilogue that explains what happens after the final decision you make completely fucks up the entirety of the Galaxy.

This final decision makes everything you have done completely moot, since it doesnt give you a payoff, and possibly invalidates anything you might have done.

Krogan genophage? Yeah good luck sustaining those fuckers if you cant find suitable worlds for them to colonize.

Quarians and Geth? Well I hope you guys didnt fuck up all those Live Ships cause its going to take a fuckton of time to get back to Ranoch.

Rachni Alive or Dead? Space Spiders dont give a shit either way, they can settle in Venus since they thrive in toxic enviroments.

Asari? these bitches are now the de facto salve whores of the Galaxy because not only did they keep their Protean info a secret and used it to lord it over the rest of the species, but they also FAILED to do anything good with it for more than 1k Years, while their little sluts went off to whore themselves around the Galaxy, so if they like being little whores, then they will have no problem being the fuck toys of every other species.

The Salarians would surprisingly come out of this shit pretty ok, since they only sent their fleet to fight, and Surkesh didnt get fucked over by reapers.

But anything I say now is just wild speculation because we have no Epilogue to tell us what the fuck happens after I make Sheppard use the Mcguffin.

That is why I dislike the ending so much.
please stop blasting the asari. -_-

I like them.
 

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chinangel said:
boag said:
TitanAtlas said:
So i played the Mass Effect 3, and liked it. Some things i liked some things hated (like a certain salarian sacrifice... shine on you, you epic fly eating bastard) :(

But after playing it and reaching the end (i only saw one of the endings), i can say i really loved how everything turned out to be. But then i went to the escapist... so... much... hate...

I don't get it. I chose the organic/ synthetic unification, and i loved it.

From the moment sheperd rushes to the laser (many people say, sheperd died, and thats because he's witouth his team. I assumed the lasers, since they were killing everyone they just knocked the teammates unconscious or something), the final talk against the illusive man, the last view of the war (anderson and sheperd moment), and even 'Jason' (the kid at the crucible that somehow reminds me of Jason of Heavy Rain). I loved every single moment, every single choice, i liked Sheperd was alone in this last decision, and that he was tottaly Effed Up (shows me he's not some kind of god impervious to every damage).

I LOVED those moments. Made me feel like even in the end, when everything seemed lost, he fought till the end. Till the last strenght.

And the ending i chose was perfect for me. The unification of machine and flesh. A new stream of DNA, a new type of evolution for every creature in the galaxy. The mass relays were destroyed (yes kind of sad), but Synthetics (like the geth) now have a new stream of DNA, they can now feel, and evolve. Same for every single other creature. AND the Reapers were destroyed.

I would love to see snips of the characters to see how they are doing in this new life, but don't take me wrong that ending was perfect. Even to that last moment of the man and the kid talking. Made me show the future was at peace and harmony. No war or destruction, just... peace. Perfection. A good hopefull future, in wich even the kid says he dreams to go to the stars, and the old man telling stories of "The Sheperd", like our character was the Sheperd that led all the races into a new bright future, a icon, a hero of the ages.

I don't understand why people hate that. I loved it. Very much. It fitted, and maybe i see things differently, but you are all fools for hating such powerfull, and epic ending. The series ended perfectly. Everything came into a full circle... and i only watched 1 of the 3 possible endings.

Hope i don't get too much hate for seeing things differently ;)


The Game is full of awesome little tidbits, Every conversation with the Main cast is awesome, even better is when they start moving around the ship interacting with each other. When I walked into Joker and Garrus telling Racist jokes to each other I almost laughed a lung out.

The entirety of the game is payoff to everything you did in ME1 and ME2, and up until the very end when Shep confronts the AI it was Great, those moments with Anderson were fuckign Heartwrenching...... but then the Deus EX HR ending gets in the way.

Instead of Confronting Harbinger, you get this shitty kid AI, and all it does is shoe horn you into a decision that kills off any choices you made and leaves you with a myriad of questions, the next 15 minutes of the game from this point, no matter what choice you make completely alter the Galaxy and you are not shown any of it.

In the end my disappointment with the game stems in 3 major areas.

Thematically, it clashes with the overall aspect of the Game, instead of it being a struggle for survival it turns into a philosophical play.

Interactively, your choices are all the same, Reapers are no longer a threat and Galactic Civilization gets boned, no matter what you choose.

From a story telling perspective the ending lacks an Epilogue that explains what happens after the final decision you make completely fucks up the entirety of the Galaxy.

This final decision makes everything you have done completely moot, since it doesnt give you a payoff, and possibly invalidates anything you might have done.

Krogan genophage? Yeah good luck sustaining those fuckers if you cant find suitable worlds for them to colonize.

Quarians and Geth? Well I hope you guys didnt fuck up all those Live Ships cause its going to take a fuckton of time to get back to Ranoch.

Rachni Alive or Dead? Space Spiders dont give a shit either way, they can settle in Venus since they thrive in toxic enviroments.

Asari? these bitches are now the de facto salve whores of the Galaxy because not only did they keep their Protean info a secret and used it to lord it over the rest of the species, but they also FAILED to do anything good with it for more than 1k Years, while their little sluts went off to whore themselves around the Galaxy, so if they like being little whores, then they will have no problem being the fuck toys of every other species.

The Salarians would surprisingly come out of this shit pretty ok, since they only sent their fleet to fight, and Surkesh didnt get fucked over by reapers.

But anything I say now is just wild speculation because we have no Epilogue to tell us what the fuck happens after I make Sheppard use the Mcguffin.

That is why I dislike the ending so much.
please stop blasting the asari. -_-

I like them.
Yeah I like em too, but for a species that is mono gendered and only seem to have tits and pussy, they pulled the Biggest Dick move ever by being selfish and lazy.