Violence is a major part of life all life. Without violence there be no sun no sex no growth. A world without violence is a frozen dead world. So why do so many people bad mouth violence.
Why the hate for violence.
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Because violence causes pain, and nobody likes pain.Donbett1974 said:
Personally, I think a good portion of violence is just a used as cop-out to get out of dealing with a problem in another manner. It's resorted to when someone is so worried about something that they act in a way which is as detached from the problem as possible, so they can find a way to end the situation by being as far away from it as possible.
Four words: "Think of the children!"
People are crazy when it comes to protecting their kids from anything that might have a negative effect on them.
People are crazy when it comes to protecting their kids from anything that might have a negative effect on them.
What do you mean "without violence there would be no sun?" I'm relatively certain that there wasn't any violence involved in the sun's history. It's just been a big burning ball of stuff. Do you mean that there were some violent reactions at play in the sun? Yeah, but if that's what you mean then you've kind of introduced some semantic fallacies into your argument.
Either way, I think you're still arguing on bad grounds. People aren't necessarily against many things which could be viewed as violent, such as nature's various hunters, or perhaps even violence in self defense. But that's different from the violence people are against. When I say that I'm against violence, what I really mean is that I'm against unnecessary violence, wars, bar fights, homicides, etc... These violences could be prevented, humans would be just fine without them. You've really just set up a straw man argument, treating the statement "I'm against violence" more literally than it was ever intended to be, the real argument is a little bit more subtle and nuanced. That is to say that it sees the shades of grey that are a part of being human.
Either way, I think you're still arguing on bad grounds. People aren't necessarily against many things which could be viewed as violent, such as nature's various hunters, or perhaps even violence in self defense. But that's different from the violence people are against. When I say that I'm against violence, what I really mean is that I'm against unnecessary violence, wars, bar fights, homicides, etc... These violences could be prevented, humans would be just fine without them. You've really just set up a straw man argument, treating the statement "I'm against violence" more literally than it was ever intended to be, the real argument is a little bit more subtle and nuanced. That is to say that it sees the shades of grey that are a part of being human.
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I'm just curious abou why you think violence = existance of the sun. If you are thinking violent reaction like the nuclear reaction that is the sun. That is a very different meaning of violence and basically means energetic.
No one is going to complain because a character ran around a room swinging his arms violently. It just isn't that type of violence that worries them.
I'm sorry, but this has to b one of the most neanderthal-ish posts I've ever read. Please explain to me how there'd be "no sun" without violence? Seriously, I'm interested to hear your take on it.Donbett1974 said:
Violence is a PART of people's lives, but to say it's a "major part of all life" is ridiculous. I've experienced my fair share of violence, but what I gained from those experiences is minuscule compared to what I've gained as a person when I didn't use violence.
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jthwilliams said:
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I was making fun of him for using the word "be" instead of "is" and that it made him sound like a pirate. You were just taking a big dump on his point.jthwilliams said:
Sorry, I thought you went pirate to make fun of the idea violence == sun. Kind of calling it a backwards ideaMittens The Kitten said:
Well, basically, people are stupid. They assume that all violence is bad because violence has led to bad things. Violence also led to the independence of a nation as well. It's all a matter of the right kind of violence. There are some places and times which can and will be justified. On a small-scale example...
Person: Give me your money.
ME: *Kicks him in the balls without warning* No.
Person: *Does not get money*
And this is just a basic example. The people who use violence for the wrong stuff are giving us, the people who use it for the right thing, a bad name. And that's even when we use violence to teach those who use it wrong a lesson they won't forget. It's community service, dammit!
Person: Give me your money.
ME: *Kicks him in the balls without warning* No.
Person: *Does not get money*
And this is just a basic example. The people who use violence for the wrong stuff are giving us, the people who use it for the right thing, a bad name. And that's even when we use violence to teach those who use it wrong a lesson they won't forget. It's community service, dammit!
Either way, this is probably the worst-argued point i've ever seen as the OP of a thread, at least on the escapist.jthwilliams said:
While I'm against violence in real life I support violence in video games. Mostly becuase my dad, who was a total nutcase, completely mellowed out after you gave him an hour on Doom II with the chainsaw and a immortality cheat. Stress relief is good mkay.
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There's different kinds of "violence", obviously. This entire thing reads like a troll post.
There's different kinds of "violence", obviously. This entire thing reads like a troll post.