Why the love for Diablo 3?

[Feylynn]

Mechanics.
The runes make a HUGE variety of interesting spell effects such as Raining Frogs, throwing corpses, Mirror Images that deal damage, Perpetual Time Slow, magma lasers, a transformation spell making a mage pure energy and death, life leaching spells, a variety of summons, sentry turrets with homing missiles, fan of knives with grenades, etc.
There is hundreds of abilities and a much more fun way to experiment around with builds.

I'm in Diablo, and most RPGs for that matter, for the theory and execution.
I want to examine the tools they give me and build a character with ridiculous synergy, fun skills, and then try to overcome challenges with them.
Normal, Nightmare, Hell, and Inferno.

I don't know how D3 has "Gained nothing" in your eyes with other additions like more interesting and diverse resources among classes, Diverse boss mechanics that are more than increased health and damage, better looting mechanics, more polished PvP that also solves griefing issues, more story, more enemies, more team dynamics in game play, this one is subjective but I consider the real Auactions a bonus, professions adding enchantments, crafting, and more variety of gems.

I'm sure I'm still missing some points, but that's all here or there, what we want is Diablo, numberless, a third time, with the same increase in quality that we got last time.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Blizzard remakes the same small handful of games with a visual facelift once every 8-10 years. They spend the vast majority of their time and money on the production values, polishing every inch of their products to a mirror shine - and that's what attracts people to their games. If you're looking for anything resembling innovation or creativity, you won't find it at Blizzard.

 

[Jewrean]

9/10 comments I read about the game are negative. As if people are getting paid to turn their nose up at the game. IT'S A GAME! If you don't like it then don't buy it! It's as simple as that! I have fond memories playing the prequels to this game, I love everything Blizzard makes, and so naturally I'm probably going to like this too. Like music, not every genre read, game) is in your taste buds. And even though YOU don't like it and come to every 'logical' conclusion on the planet as to why it isn't a good game, other people still enjoy it / may enjoy it. So next time you have an inkling to say "This game sucks. Why is everyone thinking it's good? Jeez! I'm the only one right in the whole damn world!" then let me say this, go be right somewhere else.

"This movie is shite." It's just a movie!
"This book is written poorly." It's just a book!

Listen, dude, this is a forum where people share their opinions. You like it, fine, but your "suggestion" goes both ways. If you like it, stop defending it on the forums go like it somewhere else.

Like I said, 9/10 comments are all insulting the game. This isn't news. And it is also counter-productive. Most of the people I've encountered that have the opinion that a game will suck are usually trolling.

 

[Jewrean]

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Let me get this straight. If people were jerking off all over the game, you'd be all for it?

Or do you have a problem with people talking about it at all?

You think they're trolling because obviously you have no idea what trolling is. Having an opinion different than yours is not trolling...

I didn't read past this point due to the large number of assumptions you've made. My motto is simple, it hasn't come out yet. Don't judge a book by it's cover and don't judge a game until you've played it. I'm looking forward to playing it based on the previous games, however, that is different in saying it will 100% be the best game ever. So in a way, I don't appreciate anything said about the game unless it's from a developer or someone who has played the product.

As for the trolling point, I'm referring to instances I've had previously with people in forums / comment sections talking about the game. Of the people I've responded to who had something negative to say about it it was clear that most of them were simply trying to invoke a response for their own self-satisfaction. Not only this, but many people are simply jumping on the bandwagon to insult the game before it's out like sheep. This happens with many popular games.

The only productive thing to do is to report new information about the game or link to official information about the product that has already been made available. Hearing the opinion of some faceless account denouncing (/or appreciating) the game before it is even out is ludicrous.

Blizzard remakes the same small handful of games with a visual facelift once every 8-10 years. They spend the vast majority of their time and money on the production values, polishing every inch of their products to a mirror shine - and that's what attracts people to their games. If you're looking for anything resembling innovation or creativity, you won't find it at Blizzard.

News flash. Almost every AAA game company (or any company for that matter) does that. But instead of 8-10 years they do it more frequently. If you want creativity then might I suggest most indie games as they are not as concerned about the consumer which is why they are not a AAA game company yet. If you want to blame anyone for Blizzards apparent lack of 'creativity' then I suggest blaming yourself, me, and every other consumer because Blizzard (and other companies) are only trying to give the masses what they want.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

I don't care for Diablo 3 at all myself. I don't care for pretty much everything about it. The gameplay, the new skill system, the art direction, the ass raping of the story. You name it!

 

[kebab4you]

Not gonna lie, I was looking forward to this also[footnote]back in 2009[/footnote] but as more information came out the more I felt a hate boiling inside me, what´s with blizzard trying to make all recent games so fucking broad and easy to use? You got enough cash as it is don't you? ._.

 

[emeraldrafael]

the same reason any sequel (halo, skyrim, GoW, etc) gets big news. its the name recognition and projected mass sales the product will enjoy.

 

[Bento Box]

Why the love for Diablo 3?

'Cause it looks like fun.

...

Bah, if I leave a short, snarky-ass post like that, it'll get nailed. Fine, fine.

Diablo 2 captured my interest for much longer than it deserved because the community and the random dungeons/loot tables made for a dynamic and fun experience.

Now I get a chance to re-live that moment of early high school, but with shinier everything and even a physics engine!

But yeah, seriously - 'cause it looks like fun.

 

[Aeonknight]

If Diablo 3 was being made by any company other than Blizzard people would be insulting it for exactly the reasons the op states.

Most people have been blinded by Blizzard's flurry of marketing.

This is a great springboard. However, I think this outlook is amplified by the outrage of some Diablo fans saying that the online requirement is a deal breaker for them and now people swear up and down that those fans (like myself) are going to miss out on some "epic" game for some petty reason. I think some people are showing massive love to try and make some point to those that are claiming they wont buy because of the AH/Online.

Truth be told, the online requirement is a deal breaker for me. This game won't be anymore epic than Diablo 2. It isn't bringing much fresh to the table. Two major downsides (AH/Online) and not much the way of upsides doesn't sound like anything to get excited about personally.

How can you argue the auction house is bad?
just don't use the thing if you dont like it. That doesnt count against the game, like at all. You can keep your anti online stance though because there are plenty of qqers like yourself who refuse to get good internet ^^

Oh and id suggest everyone kicking and screaming against using the internet brace themselves, because this is the way everything will be going.

PvP/PK system. AH that lets you buy power with your credit card. These are 2 elements of gameplay that should never mix. Ever.

Diablo 3 mixed them.

Even if you don't care about PvP (Blizzard sure as hell doesn't), Diablo has always been a "kill shit, get loot" game. If I can "beat" Diablo 3 by buying the absolute best gear within 15 minutes and probably 90$.... what's the bloody point in playing at all?

 

[spartandude]

Torchlight 2 = All the good things about Diablo minus all the BS coming with Diablo 3

 

[Aeonknight]

If Diablo 3 was being made by any company other than Blizzard people would be insulting it for exactly the reasons the op states.

Most people have been blinded by Blizzard's flurry of marketing.

This is a great springboard. However, I think this outlook is amplified by the outrage of some Diablo fans saying that the online requirement is a deal breaker for them and now people swear up and down that those fans (like myself) are going to miss out on some "epic" game for some petty reason. I think some people are showing massive love to try and make some point to those that are claiming they wont buy because of the AH/Online.

Truth be told, the online requirement is a deal breaker for me. This game won't be anymore epic than Diablo 2. It isn't bringing much fresh to the table. Two major downsides (AH/Online) and not much the way of upsides doesn't sound like anything to get excited about personally.

How can you argue the auction house is bad?
just don't use the thing if you dont like it. That doesnt count against the game, like at all. You can keep your anti online stance though because there are plenty of qqers like yourself who refuse to get good internet ^^

Oh and id suggest everyone kicking and screaming against using the internet brace themselves, because this is the way everything will be going.

PvP/PK system. AH that lets you buy power with your credit card. These are 2 elements of gameplay that should never mix. Ever.

Diablo 3 mixed them.

Even if you don't care about PvP (Blizzard sure as hell doesn't), Diablo has always been a "kill shit, get loot" game. If I can "beat" Diablo 3 by buying the absolute best gear within 15 minutes and probably 90$.... what's the bloody point in playing at all?

Well the point is up to whoever spends their real money on such things, if its not your kind of thing, then don't do it, its ENTIRELY optional, although i hope to get some kickass stuff to sell on there making my gametime get me money.

And competitive pvp always requires the best gear, instead of under the table deals like in WoW now they made a legal way of doing it. My careface is not on.

Wow, you really bought into this AH scam didn't you?

Here's what's gonna happen.
RMT sweatshops are going to own Diablo's economy. It's what they do, and they've gotten pretty good at it. You by yourself can't compete with warehouses of under-nourished people playing this game 24/7. Once you get a good drop, they've gotten hundreds of that same drop. They then proceed to undercut you to the point where the value of the item becomes worthless, but they'll have a huge stock and a monopoly on the sale of that item. Blizzard? They don't give a shit, they're taking their cut from each/every transaction. If RMT jump on this opportunity (since Blizzard endores their methods and made it "legal",) you won't make a dime playing Diablo 3.

Now... let's say I'm playing D3 without using the AH. I'm obviously using sub-optimal gear because it takes time to find the stuff, or I can just lvl and find a new range of gear that's better. Anywho, PK 12 yr old griefer joins my game and decides to absolutely destroy me and/or my friends because he paid 25 bucks for ZaUberSwordz!

Rinse and repeat that scenario about 200 times, and eventually anyone wanting to actually enjoy Diablo 3 will say "fuck it" and give in to using the AH, just to fight back. You can't get away from the game's central concept without it being an uphill battle.
Either that, or password lock my game so I can play my online game by myself (why weren't we given an offline mode again? Oh right, bottlenecking towards AH so Blizzard can money whore some more.)

If that sounds fun to you, more power to you. I'm not about to tell you what to spend your money on, I'm just listing why I'll personally be avoiding the game like the plague. Diablo is dead.

 

[Aeonknight]

So they removed the PK system... well that changes things a bit. Still don't like the idea of buying power in a game with PvP... but at least it doesn't have a negative impact on my own playing experience.

Other points still stand, but it definately makes me rethink my stance on it a little. Damn you Hammeroj... lol.

But that is the point of forums.

 

[VladG]

Yes. It is basically an improved version of the game launched a decade ago, and that was an improved version of the game from 17 years ago. And it is exactly what fans want.

You see, the original Diablo basically started the genre of random loot, hack and slash clicfests (and it actually did have randomly generated dungeons, another thing I think it pioneered). It was a gameplay revolution at the time and it was an awesome game.

Diablo 2 came along and basically super-sized the game. More classes, more environments, more loot, more monsters; basically more game. It also updated some of the slower mechanics introducing a more frantic, engaging and active combat system, unique classes (the only difference in Diablo 1's classes were stat allocation and 1 skill)

Diablo 3 now promises to do what Diablo 2 did back in the day: Keep the best parts, totally improve on the rest. It will have an even better loot system, it will have a new and interesting class/skill system that is MUCH less restrictive than the old one (imo the biggest failing of D2 was it's rigid skill tree and the fact that you couldn't change anything once you commited points in a certain skill. This made it very necessary to plan ahead if you wanted a strong late game build and basically resulted in hoarding points untill you had access to whatever you wanted to use). Stuff like crafting makes adds a little diversity, organized Arenas for PVP lovers, A much improved combat system (again) that seems to require more skill and tactical awareness.

You see, Blizzard are masters of polish. They have only a few games in their portfolio, but ALL of them are insane hits. There is a reason for this. They are masters at creating simple gameplay that is incredibly fun and addictive and the reason they are so good is because a lot of time is spent on perfecting the basics.

Because it's Blizzard, I have no doubt in my mind that Diablo 3 will be awesome.

And honestly, people complaining about DRM and not buying it "because it doesn't even have a pause button" or "offline mode" deserve to miss out. Learn to actually read about the DRM and the always online mode and not just article headlines and sensationalist bullshit.

Just because the game requires you to always be connected dosen't mean that:

1) You can't play alone
2) You can't pause the game
3) It's going to be like Ubisoft and not allow you to play the game because their servers are crap. Remember that Blizzard has been hosting it's BattleNet for a very long time now, it has the LARGEST mmo out there. They know how to maintain and build their server infrastructure.

It's exactly like Starcraft 2: you have to log in to play, but from then on, you have all the singleplayer you want.

Also I personally love the cross-game chat/friends functionality that is only possible with a constant online link.


Oh, and I guess it's worth noting that a lot of games have tried to copy Diablo (2) and all have FAILED miserably. I have played every other similar game out there and not ONE is even REMOTELY as fun as Diablo 2 was.

 

[VladG]

If Diablo 3 was being made by any company other than Blizzard people would be insulting it for exactly the reasons the op states.

Most people have been blinded by Blizzard's flurry of marketing.

Yeah, you might have a point there... And here's me thinking people have been blinded by Blizzard's incredible track record of making every single game incredibly good and fun and an extreme hit.

You know, stuff like Starcraft 1 that's still one of the most played games in the world after 13 years of existence. Huh, that's some marketing they have there.