Why the Wii won

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axia777

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Eggo said:
axia777 said:
You discount many factors. For example, when happens if the PS3 comes down in price to $299.99? Blu Ray is not failing what ever you may hear and the PS3 is getting many more games. In a ten year life span for the PS3 many things can happen.
And how much profit will Sony make selling the PS3 at $299.99?
Who knows? Who cares? I certainly don't. All I know and care about is games. When more PS3's get sold more devs see profit in the PS3 market, thus a larger amount of good games gets made for the PS3. That is all I care about.
 
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The days of the console wars when one system could dominate, and push its competition into an early grave are over, and the Wii is especially incapable of doing so as it caters to a different audience than its competitors. From what I've seen the overwhelming majority of Wii owners are not core gamers. That is they are not people who play video games as their main hobby, and don't identify as gamers. The Wii can outsell the PS3, and 360 combined by going after the larger market of non-gamers, but it will never replace them because it has little to offer the core.

I've played video games since I was three years old. I grew up with Nintendo. I consider the Wii completely irrelevant. It isn't for me much like a movie I don't have any interest in seeing. Pixar films make a shit ton of money, but that doesn't mean I care about them.
 

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I just pray every night that Sony would give up on making consoles forever since they decided to turn game consoles into expensive, awkward boxes that allow you to play games with slightly more pixels than before.
 

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What is this talk about the ''Wii has won the sales war but not the console war'', i would expect that the sales determine the winning console, if people like it they would buy it and as so many has bought the Wii, must mean that alot of people like it over the other two. When it comes to graphics you could just go sit in a corner with a cone hat on because the graphics is actually a SMALL part of the games importance, you want a game to be fun, you want a game to have a solid plot, and you want the controls to be efficient, and you want to be able to see what you are doing and thats when graphics come in. Just because the graphics are really good doesn't mean that the game will be too, i mean Mario Kart 64 is still awesome, its a hell of alot of fun and its got cruddy graphics. Zelda OoT is still my favorite game of all time and its a N64 game! PONG on the Atari is still fun to play.
The game cant be determined just by the graphics, to be honest the higher the graphics the shtter they are for me, because the models look more like plastic dolls then real people.
The Wii has WON because the console has been deemed to be FUN and when people like it they buy it, and who can argue against the figures.

But there are few good games on the Wii which is a downside to it all :( but the ones which are there are still alot of fun to play!
 

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The Wii and DS (which is trouncing the PSP) are both doing far better than many "experts" expected them to because they finally give consumers what they have been wanting for years now: innovation. People don't want the same old same old. They want something that is different. The dual screens and touch controls of the DS and the motion controls of the Wii appeal to people who are tired of the same old control schemes that most other game consoles have used for the past 20 years. They also appeal to people who have never really been interested in video games before. Make fun of the grandmas and house wives all you want, but they are now starting to buy game consoles for themselves now and not just for the kids and grandkids thanks to the Wii and DS. The secret to the success of these consoles is really no secret. It's just that someone finally figured out that if you want to grow the video game business, you have to go out and find new customers who haven't been impressed with what's been tried in the past. Not everyone is as interested in what the latest graphics processor or physics engine can do.
 

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EzraPound said:
1) the Wiimote
2) Zelda & Mario & Metroid
3) the price
4) GC backward compatibility & Virtual Console
5) pre-Christmas launch and good advertising
1 The Wiimote is a reason NOT to buy the bloody thing

2 There are great games in other consoles too. At leasts the other consoles do not alwats thread the same ground over and over again

3 There you are right: it's a cheap piece of crap

4 Actually the Wii has some plusses I guess

5 Well I think it;s the MAIN reason. Marketing. Showing cute girls playing with the Wiimote like it's a dildo and raising expectations and heartpaces of dumb guys. OK it outsold the other consoles... but WHY most Wii owners now complain about too expensive games, boring games and shitty gameplay? I could throw the graphics too, but since it's cheap I'll let it slide. WHY most Wii owners compalin they have little use for it?

It's just an overhyped console that got the upper hand because the other two were more expensive and had bugs of their own, unfortunately.

In this way Nintendo could sell you a turd rolled in tin foil (which is just a little better than the Wii as fun goes)
 

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dukethepcdr said:
The Wii and DS (which is trouncing the PSP) are both doing far better than many "experts" expected them to because they finally give consumers what they have been wanting for years now: innovation. People don't want the same old same old. They want something that is different. The dual screens and touch controls of the DS and the motion controls of the Wii appeal to people who are tired of the same old control schemes that most other game consoles have used for the past 20 years. They also appeal to people who have never really been interested in video games before. Make fun of the grandmas and house wives all you want, but they are now starting to buy game consoles for themselves now and not just for the kids and grandkids thanks to the Wii and DS. The secret to the success of these consoles is really no secret. It's just that someone finally figured out that if you want to grow the video game business, you have to go out and find new customers who haven't been impressed with what's been tried in the past. Not everyone is as interested in what the latest graphics processor or physics engine can do.

I think it's just VERY good marketing. The innovation of the Wii and the DS in the end is only a nuissance in gameplay, unless you play Wii bowling or something.

Nintendo just knew how to advertize their console promising a system for EVERYONE!
In the end only few have fun with it.

And it's cheap. People like to spend less.
 

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Altorin said:
KingPotato said:
Well last i read Xbox 360 had a 10:1 games to console attachment ratio while the wii had a 1:10 ratio, in my books the Wii is a failure as a gamesconsole.
So only every 10th Wii console owners has a game?
Rofl. I wonder what he was thinking when he typed that...
 

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I wouldn't say the Wii won for the simple reason that they're going for a completely different market than the 360 or PS3 were aimed at. Considering that the Wii hasn't really taken away any of Microsoft's or Sony's fan base, you can't say it "won". The PS3 and 360 are struggling against each other, but the Wii isn't competing with any other console this generation.
 

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I wouldn't say the Wii won for the simple reason that they're going for a completely different market than the 360 or PS3 were aimed at. Considering that the Wii hasn't really taken away any of Microsoft's or Sony's fan base, you can't say it "won". The PS3 and 360 are struggling against each other, but the Wii isn't competing with any other console this generation.
Exactly. Nintendo decided it wanted to hit a different market, with a different type of console. So they did and struck gold. The Wii is not competing against the 360 or PS3, I don't understand how some people still don't realise that.
 

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Richard Groovy Pants said:
You'd think so but you'd be wrong.

The console fanboy only appeared with the last 2 generations of consoles.
Ask any console veterans and they will tell you that.
You're mixing up fan with fanboy. There has always been Nintendo fans, Sony fans and Microsoft fans.

However with the last 2 generations these fans became mutated with some sort of retarded radiation chemicals that made them drop all logical sense to the ground and violently defend their choice of platform beyond reason.
Why did this happen you ask? I have no idea.
It may be because consoles are becoming a mainstream thing and while that can be a good thing, it sure brings negative traits to the table.
The negative point here was that the mainstream brought many, retards, kiddies and simply stupid people into the equation (not that there wasn't any before). But it's a shot in the dark really.
That is BS. I have owned just about every console since Atari 2600. I remember fanboys appearing around the same time Sega really started giving Nintendo shit with the Master System. It was the same story back then to with crap like "Who do you like? SEGA!" and "Who do you like? NINTENDO!". The conflict got worse with the SNES and the Genesis coming out. It has been the same story ever since. The Internet just makes it all more public and accessible.

Eggo said:
The console fanboy only appeared with the last 2 generations of consoles.
Ask any console veterans and they will tell you that.

You're joking right?

Does anyone else remember the horrors of Sega Genesis vs. the SNES?
See? Eggo remember too. Sega vs Nintendo were the first real fanboy wars.