Why war will never stop.

[knight steel]

War, war never changes.

War changes all the time,to bad it all ways for the worst .New guns new ways to make people suffer.Im sick of war it just causes pain,i hope that one day it will all stop but thats probaly not going to happen ,well atleast i can dream.

 

[Curiosity's Cat]

The reason war will never be stopped, is because there is too much money in war. The people who tell our leaders, America's that is, what to do, make money in war.

So, in America, we will always want war.

Was the war in Iraq really a big win for America financially though? Bush lowered taxes right as he was going into a war, a war which was expensive, and now the American government is billions of dollars in debt and basically living on loans. Not that I'm saying the war is the direct, sole cause of the debt, of course, merely that I don't see how it helped or was a financial win.

Also I read somewhere that if you divide the ongoing cost of the war by the barrels of oil that America got out of it, it's pretty much the most expensive oil on the planet.

More generally, I'd urge people not to give up on war eventually becoming extinct. For example, did you know since the end of the WW2, stable democracies have rarely, if ever gone to war with each other? In fact I can't think of one example, although I'm happy to be corrected. There's been some conflict by proxy (think america and china in korea and vietnam)but not direct clashes.

The theory is that that stable democracies, regardless of differences in point of view, trust each other more to not just go apeshit and start firing weapons so they don't feel like they're leaving themselves open to attack when they put more trust in diplomacy.

There's more to it of course, but I'd be interested in what would happen to war if we, say, started trying to develop a large, educated middle class in unstable regions, the kind of group that traditionally likes less radical government (radical is bad for business) and has collectively enough money and influence to pressure government.

 

[Pellucid]

It depends on the situation, but in many ways a popular war does in fact boost major segments of the economy. Steel/Metals (Weapons, tanks, ships, armor etc..), Electronics (guidance, surveillance, etc..), Synthetics (Kevlar, Plastics etc..) things of that nature. It reinvigorates the populace towards one goal. Winning/representing the country. The problem is, not every war enjoys the popular support that WW2 did. America's entering WW2 pulled us right out of the Great Depression, simply because everyone was working towards churning out the American war machine. This is an extreme example, but I'm pretty sure that's the point they're trying to make.

Now, imagine if we could get the world to focus on one goal....other than killing each other.

I believe the WWII situation was covered when I said it was an excellent way "to compel your populace to do industrial jobs for not enough pay." xP

 

[Soxafloppin]

I saddens me to read that

 

[HerrBobo]

As long as there are people there will be wars.

To (imperfectly) quote the sniper: As long as there are two people on this Earth, someone's gonna want someone dead.

Hahhaha! Good one! Is that form TF2?

 

[odBilal]

War, war never changes.

Solid Snake would disagree.

Damn! These Patriots again!

 

[Zombie Badger]

?Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.? - Hermann Goering.

 

[Rolling Thunder]

War: Cleanses the gene-pool, lowers the populations, expands industry, liberalises society, improves the economy, leads to a wave of new culture and ideas and invariably results in nice things all around.

Oh, and people die. But that happens all the time, so I fail to see where the goddamn hangup is.

 

[gh0ti]

And when there's an absence of "stuff" we want, there's always the possibility of waging war for the 'good' of others, e.g. Iraq.

 

[Captain Bobbossa]

It's part of human nature

 

[Duskwaith]

?Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.? - Hermann Goering.

Brilliant quote from the Nuremburg trials. Iran is useing the very tactic at the moment.

Anything money related will usually result in people being killed for it, gold,oil,silver,fertile lands etc.