Why won't 1st party developers other than Ninetendo touch the Wii?

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smithy1234

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Lukeje said:
Because the only 1st party developer on the Wii is Nintendo? All the others are 3rd party developers.
All I'm seeing right now is this x10000 and it's so true, wtf OP?
 

Doug

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Lukeje said:
Because the only 1st party developer on the Wii is Nintendo? All the others are 3rd party developers.
This. Also, if he meant that, its because a) the Wii has a higher percentage of 'casual' gamers who aren't interested in the same things as XBox, PS3, and PC gamers typically are (so the potential customers on a Wii for multiplatform games is lower than it would seem), and b) the Wii has a low amount of CPU power and memory, and a very different control interface, making it more work to port too, if not outright impossible in some cases.

Basically, not enough money for the work needed to port to the Wii. As for Wii only games, I'm not 100% sure. I imagine Nintendo are quite restrictive about what developers they let code for the Wii, but thats just a guess.
 

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robert632 said:
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robert632 said:
most companies veiw it as a childrens toy, not a gaming console.
all consoles are toys, and if you try to deny that you're a moron.

my point was that the compaines veiw it as something for the "wittle kiddies", not everyone, which is BS up the ass.
wasn't too clear for me, you think that what i sid is BS or you agree with me?
 

TailsRodrigez

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Alos, what are these so called sony games on xbox, i haven't seen any other than that metal gear solid one.
 

Robert632

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TailsRodrigez said:
robert632 said:
TailsRodrigez said:
robert632 said:
most companies veiw it as a childrens toy, not a gaming console.
all consoles are toys, and if you try to deny that you're a moron.

my point was that the compaines veiw it as something for the "wittle kiddies", not everyone, which is BS up the ass.
wasn't too clear for me, you think that what i sid is BS or you agree with me?
oh no, i agree with you, all consoles are toys, just the wii is being viewed as a toy for the little ones, unlike the other consoles.
 

Guitarmasterx7

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Well I'm assuming you mean good third part developers, so I would think it's because

1. They would have to create new programming for that stupid wii remote thing which would take a lot of effort to make function and not suck balls.
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2. The wii has extremely shitty hardware. It would never be able to run something like fallout 3 or GTA4, let alone some of the more high end games like MGS4 and Uncharted 2.
 

TailsRodrigez

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robert632 said:
TailsRodrigez said:
robert632 said:
TailsRodrigez said:
robert632 said:
most companies veiw it as a childrens toy, not a gaming console.
all consoles are toys, and if you try to deny that you're a moron.

my point was that the compaines veiw it as something for the "wittle kiddies", not everyone, which is BS up the ass.
wasn't too clear for me, you think that what i sid is BS or you agree with me?
oh no, i agree with you, all consoles are toys, just the wii is being viewed as a toy for the little ones, unlike the other consoles.
ok
 

Nieroshai

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Because only Nintendo can make 1st-party games for the Wii. And only Microsoft can make 1st-party games for the 360. And only Sony... well you get the picture. It isn't "1st-party" if an outside studio made it.
mrhappyface said:
Let me rephrase it slightly. Most of the big game titles i see nowadays are on both the PS3 or 360 and sometimes PC. I rarely if ever see any big, defining titles on the Wii other than Nintendo Property. If Nintendo is so rich, why can't they buy large game devolpers or just at least enlist their aid? I mean they can get Activision to help them on Guitar Hero but not on something big like MW2?
Ah, look again! MW2: Reflex is coming soon. Sans downgrades to graphics and multiplayer, it will play the same but with motion controls.

Before someone quotes me on this: don't buy the Wii if you'd rather play online. Wii does the best on local multiplayer, and single-player is where it really shines. But yes the Wii's online capability sucks.
 

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Sad Robot said:
cobra_ky said:
Lukeje said:
Because the only 1st party developer on the Wii is Nintendo? All the others are 3rd party developers.
<a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_developers#Current_first-party>not exactly.
Yes, exactly, Nintendo is the only 1st party developer for Wii. You may notice that those 1st party developers listed there are subsidiaries of Nintendo. They are Nintendo.
I understand what first-party means, thank you. you may notice that Nintendo need only own 51% of a developer for it to be considered "first-party". And even if they are wholly owned by Nintendo, a subsidiary is still a separate legal entity.
 

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Doug said:
Basically, not enough money for the work needed to port to the Wii. As for Wii only games, I'm not 100% sure. I imagine Nintendo are quite restrictive about what developers they let code for the Wii, but thats just a guess.
Nintendo are by no means restrictive regarding third-party software on the Wii. That's why the Wii has such a reputation for shovelware in the first place.

I think it's mostly said reputation, as well as the economics of it, that keeps quality developers away from the Wii. The only serious devs who make games specifically for the Wii are those who actually see the Wii as a way to realise their game vision rather than money. See No More Heroes, Zack & Wiki, Okami's Wii port, almost everything Nintendo's made for the Wii. None of these games are particularly orthodox, and none would be quite the same with a conventional gamepad. The other consoles, on the other hand, have a definite market for more conventional games.
 

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Oh, and I forgot to answer the OP: It's because the Wii was designed to target an audience outside the traditional gamer demographic. Many third party developers aren't targeting this audience yet, and most of the ones that do are dismissed (often rightfully) as shovelware.
 

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Rule #1 of all hardware sales that rely on associated media: people go where the media is. Were Sony or Microsoft to pursue software on the Wii, something that only EA has done successfully (and even then only once), they would be undermining their own businesses. As it stands, the Wii has been demonstrated to sell incredibly well to people who don't generally play video games but has done incredibly poorly when it comes to moving units of software that didn't come from nintendo.
 

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steakheart said:
I give you one example why the Wii does need more devs.

Behold. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stnkHFmRO5U] The wonder that is Deadly Creatures.
I'm sorry . . . was that tarantula spitting WEBS?!?! Last I checked, no tarantula was equipped to do ANYTHING with webs!
 

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grimsprice said:
any given game that is made for multiple consoles sells better on the 360 and ps3. Why? Because people buy the wii as a novelty item. An expensive novelty item. People buy a 360 and ps3 for the games. Big difference.
I bought the Wii to play games on...I wouldn't buy a 360 or a PS3 without first looking into a new PC, but the Wii is unique: It has games (Good games) out that aren't on the PC...yet...So no, "people" do not buy the Wii as a novelty item. They buy the Wii to play games on, otherwise they wouldn't buy it. People aren't quite so nostalgic as to purchase something with no value of any kind, contrary to what the PS3 people would've had you believe when it first came out.
 

Aura Guardian

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Smagmuck08 said:
Becuase you touch yourself at night...

But seriously, nobody but our grand parents like the Wii, it lacks the violence that most of us crave...
I like the Wii. And it has violent games.