Will Cataclysm improve wow. or the opposite

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GiantRedButton

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Here's hoping they improve the voice acting a lot in the upcoming expansion (I don't want another repeat of the Maiden of Grief or the Blood Princes Keleseth and Valanar - their voice acting was terrible and the other bosses weren't much better in that regard), and that they make the end-game actually, y'know, FUN. I hope they take steps to reduce the sheer amount of number crunching, Elitist Jerking-off (har har) and general stupidity that currently plagues the end-game of WOTLK.
actually they are going to do just that, they will remove about half of the current stats to make things easier :)
 

Kragg

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It will be exactly the same as the old WoW.

Rep Grinds
Gear Grinds
XP Grinds

PvP will still blow. And CC in PvP will still be OP. It may be fun to level in the new levels again. But lets be honest. The moment the majority of people max again they will quit. I know I would.
I think the majority is the 11 million people still playing it, lol. Not that I play, but yea...
last i heard it was 7 million or less now
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Encouraging
I'm assuming the grind of WoW is like the grind of D2. You grind for levels and loot, right?
Just for levels, Loot is picked up off of dead enemies, most of which is vendor trash and the bosses do carry quite a few diffrent weapons and peices of armor that dropped randomly with each run (Encouraging people to run the same dungeon more then once.) That said, a player could also buy armor and weapons from an auction house or make it themselves with their professions.

OT: I think it will be an improvement, the 2 new races will let people customize on their play styles and be able to explore Azeroth through the eyes of a diffrent race. Plus the visual effects just look plain awesome and it's gonna make the first 60 levels a lot more interesting.
wow is exactly like d2 bossruns actually, grind for levels, then grind for loot of bosses to beat other bosses to get more loot to beat bosses etc etc
 

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imo the game has gotten too easy to be any real fun anymore. I remember when you had to actually use cc in dungs. Now it's just all aoe tanking god that's boring!
 

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I'm going to pretend it doesnt exist so i dont try to buy it n___n
It's good to see them trying to re-use old areas which no one goes to anymore and fixing stats system. I dont think this patch will attract new players though.
That could be because expansions inherently discourage new players, they're more required initial investment for a game they may not like, but they do still require them if they want to see because if they don't like it early on people will just say it gets better later.

The expansion seems to me like they're simply making WoW 2 but scrapping WoW 1 in the process, but making it cost significantly more.

Of course I'm of the pinion that if you are paying a subscription fee that the content updates should be free and expansions should be limited to games with no subscription fee, so I guess I'm of the opinion it will make it worse.
 

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Xzi said:
Kragg said:
Xzi said:
Bretty said:
It will be exactly the same as the old WoW.

Rep Grinds
Gear Grinds
XP Grinds

PvP will still blow. And CC in PvP will still be OP. It may be fun to level in the new levels again. But lets be honest. The moment the majority of people max again they will quit. I know I would.
I think the majority is the 11 million people still playing it, lol. Not that I play, but yea...
last i heard it was 7 million or less now
Last you heard was wrong: http://www.wow.com/2009/04/06/wow-subscriber-numbers-still-increasing-multi-boxers-trivial/

There haven't been any official numbers released for a while now, but I don't imagine their subscriber base has really gone done over the last year.
basing that on this?
"Now what is trivial when your subscriber numbers are approaching 12 million? 100,000 might be trivial. So might be 50,000. That's still a lot ? but even if there are 100,000 multi-boxers, it's still less than 1% of the total population."
first thats a blog, he could just make up that number, where's a link to the facts of this hm? placing the burden of proof on you cause i cba to find my 7 million number

why wouldnt it go down ? it always goes down in the wait for a next expansion
 

Onyx Oblivion

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Cheveyo said:
Cata will improve WoW, imo.
Have you tried leveling in the lowbie areas? It's like fucking torture.


Onyx Oblivion said:
Encouraging players to make new characters is a very good thing in my eyes.

I'm assuming the grind of WoW is like the grind of D2. You grind for levels and loot, right?

I never understand stuff like repeated Boss runs in Diablo 2. You're only going for more loot...so that you can kill the Boss even faster?

I always made a new character when I got high level.
I apologize ahead of time, this will be long:

Once you have one level 80 with enough badges to spare, you don't really need to grind for loot on your lowbies anymore.
Heirloom items are better than anything you'd find. One of two stats might be nice on a particular piece of gear, but nothing can top 10% more xp from quests and mobs.
Currently, Heirloom items fill the following slots:
Shoulders
Chest
Trinket(2 trinkets if your class uses spell damage)
Weapons(including ranged, but excluding wands)
Ring(unique equipped, can't have more than one of it)

Last Blizzcon they said something about new heirloom pieces being introduced. Considering that the current crop of them cover the stats you'll need while leveling, I'm guessing these new pieces will fill in the slots currently without heirlooms: Legs, Boots, Helm, etc.


Heirloom items grow with your character. Each level you gain, grants you more stats on the item.
Here's an example: http://www.wowhead.com/item=42950
You can use the slider to see what stats it'll have at any level.(1-80)

Any slots not filled with heirloom items can easily be filled with quest items or ones you happen to find. You wont see much of a difference in performance between those and dungeon blues.
Also, by now it's safe to assume that most people that have been playing for as long as I have, can create or know someone who can create gear for lower level players through professions.


Orry said:
Of course I'm of the pinion that if you are paying a subscription fee that the content updates should be free and expansions should be limited to games with no subscription fee, so I guess I'm of the opinion it will make it worse.

Well, for me there are exceptions.
The reason I don't mind spending money on Blizzard's expansions for WoW is because between each expansion, I'm given a ton of free stuff that I don't have to pay for. More dungeons and loot, mostly.
I think I've gotten more than my money's worth between each new xpac.
That's stuff sound awesome. I...I'm going to start WoW. Once I get a steady income. The cost is nothin' much. I spend that much on Netflix, and don't use that.
 

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It will improve it ,yea, but completely fuck up the story.
But being able to play as a werewolf makes it up a bit.
How exactly will it screw up the story?

I don't think they will replace the game world, I think Cataclysm will kick in when players reach a certain level, in the same way as Outland is geared for lvl 58 players upwards.
I expect there to be some kind of in game event leading up to the expansion and perhaps some areas will change forever (ala Eastern Kingdoms) but I would think the starter areas will remain the same.
 

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I think it will improve wow, not too sure what it will do for lower levels other than split the barrens in half and add a couple races. Personally I'm looking forward to the level cap increase the most, although it's odd that it's only increasing by 5 but w/e. Mainly because I have a level 80 and when the expansion hits I can level like a madman and enter endgame content as its still being explored as opposed to entering it after people have already beaten everything and gotten the best gear. Unfortunately I do think this may be WoW's last expansion, as I feel there's a good chance WoW is going the way of EQ2 halfway to the next expansion(IE:Suicide by patch). I do see alliance getting a lot better at PVP in the future too, because I know a lot of horde who are eager to make worgen.
 

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Improve? Hell yes! Its hard to say it wont improve the game.

Classes are finally reaching the point where there's a point, a means, and a method to playing all of their classes.

The story is finally going somewhere now that Blizzard axed someone even they admitted they don't like (Hint: Blizzard kills boring, one dimensional characters. It gets more vague with characters they actually like) and are finally reconnecting lore arcs that had been left hanging since WC3 and even earlier.

If they keep the quality of interaction from WOTLK it'll be golden. Personally I'm on the fence in regards to whether I'll get it or not, but that's purely on the point that I've been playing the damn game for almost five years now.
 

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I don't agree with people who say that it'll drive new and long time players further apart. Surely if EVERYONE is taken and placed in a totally redesigned Azeroth everyone will be in the same boat right?

I'm excited about it though, in all honesty.
 

rayskyrift

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I just recently quit the game, finding too much of the Wrath stuff quickly repetitive. However, when I quit, it came with the caveat I know a lot of WoW-quitters have said. "I am quitting, until Cataclysm." A lot of that no doubt comes from the changes that are inbound, that at least on the surface, promise to improve the game for just about everyone. That is, everyone except people who just love spreadsheets.
 

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Entropyutd said:
sir mate said:
It will improve it ,yea, but completely fuck up the story.
But being able to play as a werewolf makes it up a bit.
How exactly will it screw up the story?

I don't think they will replace the game world, I think Cataclysm will kick in when players reach a certain level, in the same way as Outland is geared for lvl 58 players upwards.
I expect there to be some kind of in game event leading up to the expansion and perhaps some areas will change forever (ala Eastern Kingdoms) but I would think the starter areas will remain the same.
No. This was explained at blizzcon among other places. Old world is being completely scrapped and the new one is being laid down in its place. So when you start off you jump into the new world immediately. This effect comes with patch 4.0. Its free and for all players regardless if you have any of the expansions or not.

The problem with story people are talking about is that once you hit 58 and go to outland you are ported a couple years back in the story, then head to northrend which is a year ago, then back to the current times.

Its a hiccup in time so to speak, time is flowing forward in one place but not for the other two areas.

OT: My account is canceled till 4.0 drops. Ill probably pick up cata as well but I'm not an end game player and once i see all the new areas i will likely cancel my account again.