Will Cataclysm improve wow. or the opposite

[Kragg]

why wouldnt it go down ? it always goes down in the wait for a next expansion

11 million is down from the 11.5 or 12 million I believe they had at the highest point, but why would you assume they lost 4 million customers without any proof of that?[/quote]

ow now i remember, china.

 

[Enigmers]

I think the opposite will happen, specifically "WoW will improve Cataclysm."

 

[The Lawn]

Lets compare 2 vastly different MMOs and why if they were a combination they would yield one awesome game.

Runescape and WoW
Runescape has an awesome ammount of skills, quests that are actually fun, and loads of minigames with rewards.
WoW has a great combat system, a skill system that doesn't require months of grinding, a massive world by any strech of the imagination.

If Cataclysm has:
More than just battlegrounds, endgame content that can be done at lower levels that doesn't require 10-25 people like raids balanced by the number of people and classes present, more varied and intertwined skills, world pvp objectives that change zones or an RTS style to contested zones (building stuff that can be destroyed, fighting over resources)
It would be a damn near perfect MMO, well in my oppinion.

 

[ffs-dontcare]

Here's hoping they improve the voice acting a lot in the upcoming expansion (I don't want another repeat of the Maiden of Grief or the Blood Princes Keleseth and Valanar - their voice acting was terrible and the other bosses weren't much better in that regard), and that they make the end-game actually, y'know, FUN. I hope they take steps to reduce the sheer amount of number crunching, Elitist Jerking-off (har har) and general stupidity that currently plagues the end-game of WOTLK.

actually they are going to do just that, they will remove about half of the current stats to make things easier

But then, the end-game elitists usually find ways to turn the end-game into something it shouldn't be. That worries me a fair bit.

 

[Shanecooper]

I hope cata improves WoW, but I know I'm really only fooling myself here.

 

[smallharmlesskitten]

It will improve it ,yea, but completely fuck up the story.
But being able to play as a werewolf makes it up a bit.

How exactly will it screw up the story?

I don't think they will replace the game world, I think Cataclysm will kick in when players reach a certain level, in the same way as Outland is geared for lvl 58 players upwards.
I expect there to be some kind of in game event leading up to the expansion and perhaps some areas will change forever (ala Eastern Kingdoms) but I would think the starter areas will remain the same.

nope

everything in the old world is getting wtfowned by a dragon

 

[smallharmlesskitten]

It will improve it ,yea, but completely fuck up the story.
But being able to play as a werewolf makes it up a bit.

How exactly will it screw up the story?

I don't think they will replace the game world, I think Cataclysm will kick in when players reach a certain level, in the same way as Outland is geared for lvl 58 players upwards.
I expect there to be some kind of in game event leading up to the expansion and perhaps some areas will change forever (ala Eastern Kingdoms) but I would think the starter areas will remain the same.

No. This was explained at blizzcon among other places. Old world is being completely scrapped and the new one is being laid down in its place. So when you start off you jump into the new world immediately. This effect comes with patch 4.0. Its free and for all players regardless if you have any of the expansions or not.

The problem with story people are talking about is that once you hit 58 and go to outland you are ported a couple years back in the story, then head to northrend which is a year ago, then back to the current times.

Its a hiccup in time so to speak, time is flowing forward in one place but not for the other two areas.

OT: My account is canceled till 4.0 drops. Ill probably pick up cata as well but I'm not an end game player and once i see all the new areas i will likely cancel my account again.

The Dark Portal could be time travel as well you realise. meaning its stuck in that one timeline.

Northrend is getting changed a little too

 

[Vilcus]

Don't care, because no matter what I do my will power won't allow me to stay away. When it's released I'll start my account back up, play my DK a little. Afterwards I'll dive right into being a Worgen. Finally a class that isn't purple or a bull can be a druid.

 

[Angelcraft]

Does it matter if it is better or worse? People are still going to play WoW regardless.

 

[Audio]

Even if you buy the main game without expansions, you can play with everyone. Of course you get lots of restrictions; not going to outlands or getting past lvl60 and such. But with Cataclysm it effects the original world. Wonder how that is going to work for people who dont upgrade.

 

[Orry]

Even if you buy the main game without expansions, you can play with everyone. Of course you get lots of restrictions; not going to outlands or getting past lvl60 and such. But with Cataclysm it effects the original world. Wonder how that is going to work for people who dont upgrade.

I think it's pretty obvious that they won't be able to experience 5 whole levels of the continents they DO have access to, and given that WoW uses an exponential level curve, 80-85 is quite big.

 

[iLikeHippos]

No, as I said in my post before. The new expansions only ruin the game furtherly and make the gap between level 80 assholes and those below even bigger. The only one I approved of was the burning crusade. WoW has lost its unique gameplay that I loved.

Yeah. Now the raids on the Crossroad will be a ***** since the alliance will have 30-40 people up in the air just camping.
And ALL of them shamans. +1 rogue draenei on the ground.

It's lost its original flavour, and replaced it with something else.

 

[Gladion]

Well fuck me, I first thought this was about that... "something"-metal band (seriously I lost track of all the different kinds of metal). But that one's written with K, I guess.
Shame, because I felt like throwing up chunks of vomit and bloody flesh, and talking about Kataklysm pretty much does that for me.
:'( *sigh*

 

[Audio]

I think it's pretty obvious that they won't be able to experience 5 whole levels of the continents they DO have access to, and given that WoW uses an exponential level curve, 80-85 is quite big.

I mean the people who have not yet got TBC and cant get past level 60.
All the arrogant higher levels, with their fancy armour and flying mounts, are normally in a far away place. This time, for the new players who step out of the beginners lands (hope they dont allow flying there) for the first time. They might be overwhelmed by stuff going on.
PvP servers might get slightly tougher. Normally just badluck if you bump into a lvl80 helping a friend level up.

 

[Rblade]

Ofcourse it will improve. Removing number crunching to a degree is a good thing. The fact that you need an actual spreadsheet to calculate your leet deeps. And getting a new item but spending an hour thinking and looking on the niternet wether the 4 stat upgrades weigh against the 3 stat downgrades it provides. It all got out of hand

So the complete area revamp and return to basics approach to party dynamics (less mana for healers, more health for tanks -> more tactic then spamming your fast heal). All sound great to me.

2 small gripes, all those new race class combinations. I don't see the need, they were excluded for a reason lore wise.
If the rumors are true some major NPC's will bite the bullet or change occupation, some that I find increasingly awesome, so that would make me sad.

 

[Hurr Durr Derp]

I'm no WoW player so I haven't been paying a lot of attention to Cataclysm, but if I understand correctly (and please, correct me if I'm wrong), it's meant to draw in a lot of new players by making the starting areas more interesting, right? The thing I don't get is how does Blizzard think they will be getting a huge influx of new players? WoW is an old game, and by now everyone already knows about it. So everyone is either already playing it or has decided they didn't want to play it. I doubt Cataclysm will change many people's mind on either side of the fence, so what's the point?

 

[Rblade]

I think it's pretty obvious that they won't be able to experience 5 whole levels of the continents they DO have access to, and given that WoW uses an exponential level curve, 80-85 is quite big.

I mean the people who have not yet got TBC and cant get past level 60.
All the arrogant higher levels, with their fancy armour and flying mounts, are normally in a far away place. This time, for the new players who step out of the beginners lands (hope they dont allow flying there) for the first time. They might be overwhelmed by stuff going on.
PvP servers might get slightly tougher. Normally just badluck if you bump into a lvl80 helping a friend level up.

there is not going to be any 80's leveling in starting zones. All 80+ leveling zones are new and in far off places. Like under the sea, and beyond portals to the elemental planes, mount hiyal. So yeah flying mounts might send a couple of 80's through leveling zones and the like. But the number of 80's that will be wasting their time ganking people will hardly increase and other then that they have no business in elwyn forest.
well, you'll probably see a shitload of people flying around to get "the explorer" which will be pretty trivial with epic flyers. And I'll drop by the 2 new starting zones for that reason . But that will be relativly minor. I think that players flying overhead on big dragons will only increase the epic feel of azaroth for new players

 

[Xhumed]

Within 2 hours of Cataclysm going live, there will probably be 3 million Worgen DK's, the thought of which depresses me somewhat. I'm not certain how else Cataclysm will change the WoW experience, but I am sure of that.

 

[Plinglebob]

I quit because the raiding got a bit much and the grind of going from 1-60 on anything but a DK makes me want to hurt someone. However, I'll probably go back for a couple of months after Cataclysm is released to get my main up to the new cap and then see how the levelling experience has changed as wouldn't mind a Dwarf Shaman. May end up going back a bit earlier as they are supposedly running a couple of events to liberate Gnomeregan and Echo Island for new Gnome and Troll starting areas.

 

[Kinghoza]

I really like where they are taking PvP in Cata, also the story seems to get a kick