Will Skyrim be remembered?

[shrekfan246]

What Skyrim has going for it is great timing in it's release. People are ready for this kind of game and it is a great game because of the sum of it's parts. From my own 60 hours of gameplay, about the only thing I'll likely remember a year from now was the Dark Brotherhood quest line. It was annoying (thanks to you know who), fun and led to something memorable.

I agree with this. Skyrim has the great fortune of being released when an absolute plethora of first- and third-person shooters are being released every week.

I have no doubt it will be remembered, immortalized by the fans and given the nostalgia-goggle treatment just as Morrowind has, but I doubt anyone will really be able to recall specific events in the game (dragon fighting/civil war aside) a year and a half from now, unless they just barely picked it up or Bethesda releases DLC over the next two years.

I think the reason everyone is still losing their britches over it (seriously, we've been getting multiple Skyrim threads every single day for two months) is because, well, Modern Warfare 3 recently came out. And as anyone whose spent more than a week on The Escapist can tell you, Call of Duty is hated more than almost anything else on these forums.

 

[sketch_zeppelin]

I get the feeling the Elder Scrolls as a series will end up being rembered. Which is terrifiying if you think about it. each one of there games can eat up at least 100 hours of your life. So yes Skyrim and the Elder Scrolls will be remebered...remebered for stealing fucking lives!!!

 

[enzilewulf]

Skyrim will be remember'd. It was a game that was highly anticipated and actually delivered to that simple notion of awesomeness. It didn't flop at all if we are talking about the staggering number of content. The glitches are just a thorn compared to the Beast that is skyrim.

 

[chadachada123]

I wonder how memorable it will be *in comparison to Oblivion or Morrowwind,* but there's no doubt that it will be remembered in my mind. It may be close to the peak of gaming for this current generation of consoles. For PC gaming, though, I would say that the mod community will be the ones that will make this game truly memorable compared to others.

 

[irishda]

Anyone can plainly see, from the hordes of favorable reviews and praise, that Skyrim will be a benchmark for eastern RPG's for a while. It's not bolstering, it's simple fact.

Considering the escapist polls saying it's the best game of all time it better be remembered.

Seriously though, beyond the hardcore Elder Scroll fans there's no way.

There is really nothing in the game that truly stands out as remarkable. The characters and story elements are not exceptional. The environment is atmospheric but nothing memorable like say Bioshock. The combat feels behind it's time and the game has obvious flaws/bugs.

What Skyrim has going for it is great timing in it's release. People are ready for this kind of game and it is a great game because of the sum of it's parts. From my own 60 hours of gameplay, about the only thing I'll likely remember years from now was the Dark Brotherhood quest line. It was annoying (thanks to you know who), fun and led to something memorable.

It's so amazing to have these two posts side by side.

 

[Switchblade1080]

I'll remember Skyrim for this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j-EyBNZozE

 

[neonsword13-ops]

It will certainly be remembered, mainly as a break-through for the open-world genre as a whole.

If Oblivion was remembered (Which I, personally, did not enjoy), then I think Skyrim will be quick to follow.

 

[NotLikeOtherGuys]

Obviously, but I think the question should be is it WORTH remembering as a piece of art in gaming history.

To that question, I don't think so, because it simply follows the formula they perfected in Morrowind, which IS worth remembering. Oblivion and Skyrim are really just graphical updates with minor mechanical improvements and changes, really, which are reasonably good for these years, but not worth opening a museum for down the track. A lot of games have this problem, which is why past entries are more tolerable to replay than newer entries, for example MGS as opposed to it's sequels, or for some loyal people, Modern warfare 1 as opposed to newer modern warfare entries.

Other games will just try to sing to you with gleaming graphics, in which case the newest entries will grab your dollars and run while the discs age and wish you would call more often in that retirement home/shelf next to your computer.

 

[Snotnarok]

I'm pretty sure that it'll be remembered if Morrowind and Oblivion are remembered so well.

It's a big expansive game that only adds more polish to the series. Even though Bethesda leaves it's modding community to finish their games for them usually Bethesda gives them a at least good game to work on.

 

[DRes82]

The people who believe that its a memorable, fulfilling experience aren't here to comment because they're all off playing it. Which is where I would be, if I didn't have to get up for work at 8 am.

Skyrim IS AMAZING...the setting is incredible. Huge, epic mountains...a broad, dynamic sky...varying types of landscape/climate (tundra, arctic snowfields, glaciers, pine forest, aspen forest, riparian). All these complemented by an absolutely mind-blowing soundtrack. I challenge anyone to listen to it and not be moved by it. The story takes a passenger seat here, although its not a bad story. It is a bit tried and true, but not bad by any means. The dungeons are varied and interesting, the loot well placed to feel nice and rewarding. The voice acting actually decent and varied.

Skyrim is absolutely innovative and groundbreaking. The new engine is ridiculous. The graphics just pull you in. Immersion is good, marred a little by a few bugs here and there. The combat feels suitably brutal and heavy. Let me tell you, the seige of Whiterun was one of my favorite gaming moments of all time. Bursting through the doors of Dragonreach and FUS RO DAH'ing the three guards in front of me into unconciousness and then forcing the Imperial Jarl to surrender...pure gold...

Anyways, I could go on...the point is, there is a reason that people cannot shut the hell up about the game, and that is because its fucking awesome. Instead of spending time thinking of ways to be contrary and non-mainstream by saying the game is 'meh, i've seen better' or 'bleh, its not that great'...get out there and try it. On a suitable system. Preferably a powerful PC. I promise, you will enjoy it...and see how it is obviously an instant classic. I'd bet a good amount of money that this game will be remembered as one of the greats. Up there with Zelda: OOT, the original Deus Ex, and FFVII

 

[Zenn3k]

Simple question. Will Skyrim be remembered as a classic, or will it be vaguely remembered as "A good game that seemed much better at the time?"

So... that's that.

Thats an impossible question.

Did you think 3 weeks after Mario Bros came out they thought it would be remembered 20 some years later as a "classic"?

 

[OManoghue]

Considering it contains infinite quests, yeah, I'm pretty sure it'll be remembered, it's probably set the bar for all fantasy RPGs to come all things considered. Even compared to things like WoW or other MMOs.

 

[octafish]

It will be remembered. This is the first Elder Scrolls game I have liked despite wanting to like them. It is the only Elder Scrolls game I would recommend to any friends that like WRPGS. This is the first actual good entry into the elder scrolls. As such, it is going to generate a larger fanbase for the series by itself. SO the following game will be under much higher scrutiny. No more pulling that shit Oblivion pulled.

I doubt it is as epic as Daggerfall. I know it isn't as big.

 

[Heaven's Guardian]

I would be very surprised if it was, just because of the type of game that it is. Games that are considered classics usually tend to have iconic characters and stories that everyone can share, or make some really innovative design change. Skyrim is a massive open world game where every person has their own character(s), so the first part is absolutely not happening, and while I have no personal interest in Skyrim after getting bored with Oblivion a few hours in, I'm not aware of any revolutionary new mechanic that Skyrim has that people will keep talking about.

10-15 years from now, games will have better graphics and more open-world adventuring possibilities, and Skyrim won't be able to compete with those. Unlike Nintendo's three flagship franchises, to use just a few examples, Skyrim won't be able to bring back our love for a character or story, because everything that Skyrim has now will be several orders of magnitude better.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

Anyone can plainly see, from the hordes of favorable reviews and praise, that Skyrim will be a benchmark for eastern RPG's for a while. It's not bolstering, it's simple fact.

Considering the escapist polls saying it's the best game of all time it better be remembered.

Seriously though, beyond the hardcore Elder Scroll fans there's no way.

There is really nothing in the game that truly stands out as remarkable. The characters and story elements are not exceptional. The environment is atmospheric but nothing memorable like say Bioshock. The combat feels behind it's time and the game has obvious flaws/bugs.

What Skyrim has going for it is great timing in it's release. People are ready for this kind of game and it is a great game because of the sum of it's parts. From my own 60 hours of gameplay, about the only thing I'll likely remember years from now was the Dark Brotherhood quest line. It was annoying (thanks to you know who), fun and led to something memorable.

It's so amazing to have these two posts side by side.

I'm not so sure what this is meant to imply.

The division of gamers over the game's epicness? Surely that alone should grant it some memory space. I mean, the sheer amount of 'controversy' surrounding it is going to burn it in to everyone's collective conscience, including the detractors, much to their eternal chagrin and my eternal delight. But the vast, VAST majority of people will remember it as something special, a benchmark in gaming, just like it's predecessors. Whenever a game comes out that changes how I play video games, I remember it. Fondly, I might add.

There are two major complaints about the game; the lack of deep, involving characters (Which I kind of disagree with, to a point), and bugs/glitches.

The characters, I can understand, but the bugs thing... seriously? Name 1 AAA game in the past 5 years that hasn't shipped with bugs. I dare you.

Now, take into account the sheer GIRTH of content in Skyrim, weigh it against the bugs, and you'll barely see the scales tip at all. Hell, even most haters have gone on record praising Skyrim as the most bug-free Bethesda game in a long time. And even these bugs aren't as frequent as detractors would have you believe. Most problems I do hear about are from the PC side of things, (PS3 Slowdown and backwards dragons excepted) but that's to be expected with any game of this magnitude on a platform that's as variable as snowflakes.

But the point is, should bugs rule it out as a great game? Of course not, don't be silly. I can tell you of at least 5 bugs and glitches in OoT, off-hand. It's a petty, alarmist detraction and is the last defense of those who hate to see a game that isn't their personal favorite succeed.

And yes, call me a fanboy, as long as you know that I realize the game isn't perfect. NO game is. I'd like a magic crafting system. I'd like more monster diversity. I'd like more things to spend my mountains of gold on. I wish things in my house would stay where I put them. I wish there were more non-human children. I wish my companions were a bit more talkative about themselves.

These are all things that can be improved on, but even if they're not, it doesn't take anything away from what is an amazing, immersive, and frankly epic, benchmark in rpg's.

I'm 160+ hours into my first and only character so far. I've never played a game this maddeningly addictive and fun, plain and simple. It's stolen mine, and hordes of other gamers/reviewers hearts, and it won't be letting go of them for a loooooong time. FACT.

 

[spartan231490]

It will be remembered. Look at the rest of the series

 

[Fusioncode9]

All the main Elder Scrolls games are remembered fondly so I'm sure Skyrim will be remembered as well.

 

[irishda]

Anyone can plainly see, from the hordes of favorable reviews and praise, that Skyrim will be a benchmark for eastern RPG's for a while. It's not bolstering, it's simple fact.

Considering the escapist polls saying it's the best game of all time it better be remembered.

Seriously though, beyond the hardcore Elder Scroll fans there's no way.

There is really nothing in the game that truly stands out as remarkable. The characters and story elements are not exceptional. The environment is atmospheric but nothing memorable like say Bioshock. The combat feels behind it's time and the game has obvious flaws/bugs.

What Skyrim has going for it is great timing in it's release. People are ready for this kind of game and it is a great game because of the sum of it's parts. From my own 60 hours of gameplay, about the only thing I'll likely remember years from now was the Dark Brotherhood quest line. It was annoying (thanks to you know who), fun and led to something memorable.

It's so amazing to have these two posts side by side.

I'm not so sure what this is meant to imply.

The division of gamers over the game's epicness? Surely that alone should grant it some memory space. I mean, the sheer amount of 'controversy' surrounding it is going to burn it in to everyone's collective conscience, including the detractors, much to their eternal chagrin and my eternal delight. But the vast, VAST majority of people will remember it as something special, a benchmark in gaming, just like it's predecessors. Whenever a game comes out that changes how I play video games, I remember it. Fondly, I might add.

There are two major complaints about the game; the lack of deep, involving characters (Which I kind of disagree with, to a point), and bugs/glitches.

Let me stop you there. The biggest complaint isn't that it doesn't have deep or involving characters (I don't know about that one, this is the first I've heard of it) or the bugs/glitches. Those are just the icing. The core complaint of this game's detractors is that this isn't anything new. This is Modern Warfare 3 for fantasy RPG games. Dark Souls had better combat. Deus Ex had the better story, and Witcher 2 had better graphics. This game didn't bring anything new to the table except for gamers breathlessly whispering "It's so big!" like a bunch of pornstars, and even that's no different from Bethesda's other games.

I mean, this game changed how you played video games? Are you fucking serious? Even if I had a matching Skyrim avatar like yours I wouldn't agree with you there. The only way a game changes the way you play games is if you now have to wear a diaper because you refuse to stop playing it. Christ, remember how annoying it was when everyone said Avatar was gonna change movies forever? I didn't hate Skyrim when it was released. I actually played it a little. But if people like you are gonna put it up on the throne and call it the second coming of dragon-christ then I grow more and more bitter with each passing day.

I can't wait for Diablo 3, Mass Effect 3, Bioshock 3, or even SWTOR to be released so we can get past this and a different set of fanboys can come out of the woodwork.

 

[bader0]

Being remembered =/= being a great game.

Warcraft III was one of the best RTS games of all times, and almost nobody remembers it, because it was overshadowed by it's MMORPG sequel: World of Warcraft.

warcraft 3. almost nobody remembers it. what?

 

[King of the Sandbox]

Anyone can plainly see, from the hordes of favorable reviews and praise, that Skyrim will be a benchmark for eastern RPG's for a while. It's not bolstering, it's simple fact.

Considering the escapist polls saying it's the best game of all time it better be remembered.

Seriously though, beyond the hardcore Elder Scroll fans there's no way.

There is really nothing in the game that truly stands out as remarkable. The characters and story elements are not exceptional. The environment is atmospheric but nothing memorable like say Bioshock. The combat feels behind it's time and the game has obvious flaws/bugs.

What Skyrim has going for it is great timing in it's release. People are ready for this kind of game and it is a great game because of the sum of it's parts. From my own 60 hours of gameplay, about the only thing I'll likely remember years from now was the Dark Brotherhood quest line. It was annoying (thanks to you know who), fun and led to something memorable.

It's so amazing to have these two posts side by side.

I'm not so sure what this is meant to imply.

The division of gamers over the game's epicness? Surely that alone should grant it some memory space. I mean, the sheer amount of 'controversy' surrounding it is going to burn it in to everyone's collective conscience, including the detractors, much to their eternal chagrin and my eternal delight. But the vast, VAST majority of people will remember it as something special, a benchmark in gaming, just like it's predecessors. Whenever a game comes out that changes how I play video games, I remember it. Fondly, I might add.

There are two major complaints about the game; the lack of deep, involving characters (Which I kind of disagree with, to a point), and bugs/glitches.

Let me stop you there. The biggest complaint isn't that it doesn't have deep or involving characters (I don't know about that one, this is the first I've heard of it) or the bugs/glitches. Those are just the icing. The core complaint of this game's detractors is that this isn't anything new. This is Modern Warfare 3 for fantasy RPG games. Dark Souls had better combat. Deus Ex had the better story, and Witcher 2 had better graphics. This game didn't bring anything new to the table except for gamers breathlessly whispering "It's so big!" like a bunch of pornstars, and even that's no different from Bethesda's other games.

I mean, this game changed how you played video games? Are you fucking serious? Even if I had a matching Skyrim avatar like yours I wouldn't agree with you there. The only way a game changes the way you play games is if you now have to wear a diaper because you refuse to stop playing it. Christ, remember how annoying it was when everyone said Avatar was gonna change movies forever? I didn't hate Skyrim when it was released. I actually played it a little. But if people like you are gonna put it up on the throne and call it the second coming of dragon-christ then I grow more and more bitter with each passing day.

I can't wait for Diablo 3, Mass Effect 3, Bioshock 3, or even SWTOR to be released so we can get past this and a different set of fanboys can come out of the woodwork.

I agree, it's not full of innovation, but it is something new. Its a game that has enough of the puzzle pieces right that I can put myself in the picture thoroughly enough that for the first time in a video game, I actually feel like I'm role-playing.

And yes, it changed the way I play video games. Or, to be more precise, it changed what I expect out of videogames. RPG's to be more exact. And I disagree with your criteria for 'changing games'. Although, I love how nearly everyone who counters (or attempts to counter) my opinion cites my avatar as some end-all-, be-all mark of fanboyism. It's a friggin image. I had it before Skyrim launched. I'll have it for long time still, I'm sure. But does it in anyway serve any purpose other than a silly, childish contention point for anti-Skyrim haters? Sure. But that's stupid.

And I hope you've got enough sugar around to balance out the bitter, because this games going to leave a bad taste in your mouth for quite a while if you have enough of a problem with it to argue against it on a gaming forum where it's dominating even classics like OoT, Portal and Kotor in a fan poll.

As for the hype passing, sure, it will, and then when other games come out, let's see how adamantly I rally against them (I won't), then remember this moment in time, shall we?