Will the Switch ever get a Direct competitor?

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votemarvel said:
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Phoenixmgs said:
Nintendo is mainly competing with themselves
LOL. You keep thinking that buddy. :3
I agree with him, in the mobile gaming sense at least.

The 3DS is a better option if you want to do some gaming on the go. Similar battery life, less likely to damage the screen, no peripherals to risk losing, far more portable. True the multiplayer requires the other person to have a 3DS as well but it is still an option.

Now I'm sure your experience will be different to my own but of those I know who own a Switch the most mobile gaming they do with it is taking it to different rooms in their house. 3DS owners on the other hand almost always have it with them when going somewhere.

So yes in terms of mobile gaming Nintendo's only real competitor is themselves.
the Switch is a portable console but it is just as much a home console as it is a portable machine. at the end of the day Nintendo is selling you a dedicated video gaming console just like Sony and Microsoft are. make all the excuse's you want, but they are both competing in the same market. they are all competitor's of each other.
 

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As long as Soulja Boy is around, the Switch will have plenty of competition!
Famously litigious that they are, I think it's weird Nintendo hasn't sued that guy yet.
 

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Deadguy2322 said:
As long as Soulja Boy is around, the Switch will have plenty of competition!
Famously litigious that they are, I think it's weird Nintendo hasn't sued that guy yet.
Oh, I have a feeling Nintendo's lawyer army may have come knocking at his door. Mere days after tweeting Nintendo wouldn't sue, the consoles mysteriously disappeared from his store and he tweeted this [https://twitter.com/souljaboy/status/1079141002198347782].

Looks like his store is actually completely down now. Alas, you can't buy a shitty knockoff Apple Watch, I mean, SouljaWatch anymore.
 

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Yoshi178 said:
the Switch is a portable console but it is just as much a home console as it is a portable machine. at the end of the day Nintendo is selling you a dedicated video gaming console just like Sony and Microsoft are. make all the excuse's you want, but they are both competing in the same market. they are all competitor's of each other.
What other game company makes a portable system that has any relevance outside of Nintendo? Thus, the Switch is competing with Nintendo's own 3DS in the portable space with regards to dedicated portable game systems. Plus, if I was Nintendo, I'd want the Switch to completely replace the 3DS so then I'd only have to make one system for both home and portable markets. Nintendo is not competing with Sony and Microsoft because you can't play so many games on the Switch (like say new Metro Exodus, RDR2, and tons other games) so the Switch is not going the primary gaming system outside of hardcore Nintendo fans. I don't know why you care so much if you think Nintendo is competing with Sony or Microsoft or not. What does it really matter for you? I kinda care because if Nintendo made a system that had just about all the games, I'd consider buying just a Nintendo system for all my gaming needs.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
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the Switch is a portable console but it is just as much a home console as it is a portable machine. at the end of the day Nintendo is selling you a dedicated video gaming console just like Sony and Microsoft are. make all the excuse's you want, but they are both competing in the same market. they are all competitor's of each other.
What other game company makes a portable system that has any relevance outside of Nintendo? Thus, the Switch is competing with Nintendo's own 3DS in the portable space with regards to dedicated portable game systems.
Sony makes a little thing called the Playstation Vita, oh wait. 3DS completely dominated that system so they gave up on it. yeah...



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Plus, if I was Nintendo, I'd want the Switch to completely replace the 3DS so then I'd only have to make one system for both home and portable markets.
it pretty much has. since 2017 the 3DS has been getting and less and less sales each year and fewer and fewer games are being put out for the system. in fact it mostly just gets remakes now every once in awhile like Luigi's mansion and Bowser's Inside Story that just came out.



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Nintendo is not competing with Sony and Microsoft because you can't play so many games on the Switch (like say new Metro Exodus, RDR2, and tons other games) so the Switch is not going the primary gaming system outside of hardcore Nintendo fans.
the Switch is getting more and more 3rd Party support all the time what are you talking about? it's not getting RDR2 ok? what about all the new stuff it is getting? like DOOM Eternal? like Mortal Kombat 11? Like Crash Team Racing Remastered?


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I don't know why you care so much if you think Nintendo is competing with Sony or Microsoft or not. What does it really matter for you? I kinda care because if Nintendo made a system that had just about all the games, I'd consider buying just a Nintendo system for all my gaming needs.
no you wouldn't i doubt you of all people would ever buy a Nintendo system tbh.
 

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Sony makes a little thing called the Playstation Vita, oh wait. 3DS completely dominated that system so they gave up on it. yeah...
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Plus, if I was Nintendo, I'd want the Switch to completely replace the 3DS so then I'd only have to make one system for both home and portable markets.
it pretty much has. since 2017 the 3DS has been getting and less and less sales each year and fewer and fewer games are being put out for the system. in fact it mostly just gets remakes now every once in awhile like Luigi's mansion and Bowser's Inside Story that just came out.
So... then we are in agreement then.

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the Switch is getting more and more 3rd Party support all the time what are you talking about? it's not getting RDR2 ok? what about all the new stuff it is getting? like DOOM Eternal? like Mortal Kombat 11? Like Crash Team Racing Remastered?

no you wouldn't i doubt you of all people would ever buy a Nintendo system tbh.
For every game that the Switch is getting, I can list probably at least 10 games it doesn't have. I'm pretty interested in playing RE2 but if I only had a Switch, I wouldn't be able to play it. That's the problem.

There's only 2 Sony games that I've really loved this gen IIRC, which are The Last Guardian and Horizon whereas I'd love to play Bayonetta 2 and 3 on the Switch so I'm basically at a tie with regards 1st-party exclusives that I care about. Why wouldn't I strongly consider a Nintendo system if it got 90+% of all the games like the PS4 or Xbox or PC?
 

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I only had a Switch, I wouldn't be able to play it. That's the problem.
if you only had a PS4, or you Only had an Xbox One there's a lot of games you wouldn't be able to play either. what's your point?

not everyone is like you and insist's on owning only one gaming system. in fact the majority of people own at least 2 consoles. and generally, it's not a PS4 and an Xbox One they own. it's a PS4 and a Switch, or it's an Xbox One and a Switch. it's extremely rare to hear someone say they own a PS4 and an Xbox One, and the people that do usually own both PS4 and Xbox One usually end up owning all 3 of consoles anyway.

why are you so intent on acting like people will only ever own and play on one system ever?

Why wouldn't I strongly consider a Nintendo system if it got 90+% of all the games like the PS4 or Xbox or PC?
name me all of these amazing Xbox One games that you can't play on PS4.

Halo, Gears, Forza and Fable? wow! such a larger library you've gotten yourself there. 90% of the Xbox library is exactly the same shit as what's already on PS4. i'm curious why if you're going to buy another system, you'd buy one that mostly has the exact same stuff you already have on PS4?


say what you want about Nintendo games, but at least there is a large amount of exclusive stuff on there that you can't get anywhere else.
 

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Yoshi178 said:
if you only had a PS4, or you Only had an Xbox One there's a lot of games you wouldn't be able to play either. what's your point?

not everyone is like you and insist's on owning only one gaming system. in fact the majority of people own at least 2 consoles. and generally, it's not a PS4 and an Xbox One they own. it's a PS4 and a Switch, or it's an Xbox One and a Switch. it's extremely rare to hear someone say they own a PS4 and an Xbox One, and the people that do usually own both PS4 and Xbox One usually end up owning all 3 of consoles anyway.

why are you so intent on acting like people will only ever own and play on one system ever?

Why wouldn't I strongly consider a Nintendo system if it got 90+% of all the games like the PS4 or Xbox or PC?
name me all of these amazing Xbox One games that you can't play on PS4.

Halo, Gears, Forza and Fable? wow! such a larger library you've gotten yourself there. 90% of the Xbox library is exactly the same shit as what's already on PS4. i'm curious why if you're going to buy another system, you'd buy one that mostly has the exact same stuff you already have on PS4?

say what you want about Nintendo games, but at least there is a large amount of exclusive stuff on there that you can't get anywhere else.
There's far more games I couldn't play if I only had a Switch. The problem is a Nintendo system is not a primary system and if it was, I would consider getting one. But buying a Switch and spending like $400 for basically 2 games (Bayonetta series) doesn't seem very appealing to me. Whereas a cheap-as-shit PC and under $100 phone has access to more and better games than the Switch. The Switch ends up being at best the 4th best piece of hardware to buy for gaming purposes. Now if the Switch had every game like the PS4, Xbox, or PC, it would be in competition for that primary system market but it's not so it will only ever be a secondary gaming device at best, which means it has less value but still cost more than everything else for some reason.

All the games I'm currently interested in for this year so far are RE2, TLOU2, Witchfire, Bayo 3, Control, and Sekiro and the Switch is only getting one of those games. I'd pick the PS4, Xbox, and PC as my primary platform because they get far more games. The PC and phone markets have better games than the Switch if I'm looking for games that say the PS4 doesn't have. The Switch isn't a very compelling system if you just look at it logically and the small library of games it has.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
Yoshi178 said:
if you only had a PS4, or you Only had an Xbox One there's a lot of games you wouldn't be able to play either. what's your point?

not everyone is like you and insist's on owning only one gaming system. in fact the majority of people own at least 2 consoles. and generally, it's not a PS4 and an Xbox One they own. it's a PS4 and a Switch, or it's an Xbox One and a Switch. it's extremely rare to hear someone say they own a PS4 and an Xbox One, and the people that do usually own both PS4 and Xbox One usually end up owning all 3 of consoles anyway.

why are you so intent on acting like people will only ever own and play on one system ever?

Why wouldn't I strongly consider a Nintendo system if it got 90+% of all the games like the PS4 or Xbox or PC?
name me all of these amazing Xbox One games that you can't play on PS4.

Halo, Gears, Forza and Fable? wow! such a larger library you've gotten yourself there. 90% of the Xbox library is exactly the same shit as what's already on PS4. i'm curious why if you're going to buy another system, you'd buy one that mostly has the exact same stuff you already have on PS4?

say what you want about Nintendo games, but at least there is a large amount of exclusive stuff on there that you can't get anywhere else.
There's far more games I couldn't play if I only had a Switch. The problem is a Nintendo system is not a primary system and if it was, I would consider getting one. But buying a Switch and spending like $400 for basically 2 games (Bayonetta series) doesn't seem very appealing to me. Whereas a cheap-as-shit PC and under $100 phone has access to more and better games than the Switch. The Switch ends up being at best the 4th best piece of hardware to buy for gaming purposes. Now if the Switch had every game like the PS4, Xbox, or PC, it would be in competition for that primary system market but it's not so it will only ever be a secondary gaming device at best, which means it has less value but still cost more than everything else for some reason.

All the games I'm currently interested in for this year so far are RE2, TLOU2, Witchfire, Bayo 3, Control, and Sekiro and the Switch is only getting one of those games. I'd pick the PS4, Xbox, and PC as my primary platform because they get far more games. The PC and phone markets have better games than the Switch if I'm looking for games that say the PS4 doesn't have. The Switch isn't a very compelling system if you just look at it logically and the small library of games it has.
newsflash. PS4 is the only console that has TLOU2 just like the Switch is the only console that has Metroid Prime 4.

and again, why do you need to play RE2 on the Switch if you already have it on the PS4? do you like wasting your money on getting multiple copies of the exact same game do you? what's wrong with playing RE2 and TLOU2 on PS4 and Metroid Prime 4 and Bayonettea 3 on the Switch? you know, games that are actually different from each other?


and don't use your personal tastes in games as a reason to say why people would make one console their primary console over another. i couldn't give less of a shit about TLOU just as much as you couldn't give less of a shit a about Mario.
 

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Yoshi178 said:
newsflash. PS4 is the only console that has TLOU2 just like the Switch is the only console that has Metroid Prime 4.

and again, why do you need to play RE2 on the Switch if you already have it on the PS4? do you like wasting your money on getting multiple copies of the exact same game do you? what's wrong with playing RE2 and TLOU2 on PS4 and Metroid Prime 4 and Bayonettea 3 on the Switch? you know, games that are actually different from each other?

and don't use your personal tastes in games as a reason to say why people would make one console their primary console over another. i couldn't give less of a shit about TLOU just as much as you couldn't give less of a shit a about Mario.
I listed completely objective reasons why the Switch is at least the 4th best gaming system. The PS4, Xbox, and PC have more games. Even if someone like me has a PS4, the Switch still isn't very appealing as a 2nd or 3rd system because the PC, smartphone, and 3DS have more exclusive games than the Switch. How is paying more money for the system with the least games anywhere near a good value? The only system with less exclusives than the Switch is the Xbox.

I would play Mario if I owned a Switch but it ain't a system seller for me.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
I listed completely objective reasons why the Switch is at least the 4th best gaming system.
No you listed completely subjective reasons as to why the Switch is your least favorite current gaming system

just because you love TLOU and prefer to buy a PS4 over the other systems because PS4 has games like that and uncharted etc on it, doesn't mean everyone else gives a crap about those games too. like i said, i personally couldn't give less of a shit about TLOU just like you couldn't give less of a shit about Mario games


Phoenixmgs said:
The PS4, Xbox, and PC have more games. Even if someone like me has a PS4, the Switch still isn't very appealing as a 2nd or 3rd system because the PC, smartphone, and 3DS have more exclusive games than the Switch. How is paying more money for the system with the least games anywhere near a good value?
easy, i'd much rather buy 10 quality games instead of buying 100 crappy games like COD


Phoenixmgs said:
The only system with less exclusives than the Switch is the Xbox.
not true

2018 PS4 Exclusives:
-God of War 4
-Spiderman
-Detroit Become Human
-Yakuza Kiwami 2
-Fist of the North Star Lost Paradise


Switch 2018 exclusives
-Labo games
-Octopath Traveller
-Mario Tennis Ace's
-Kirby Star Allies
-Super Mario Party
-Pokemon Lets Go
-Super Smash Bros Ultimate


Phoenixmgs said:
I would play Mario if I owned a Switch but it ain't a system seller for me.
nothing Nintendo puts out will ever be a system seller in your eyes. hence why i said i doubt you'd ever buy a Nintendo System.
 

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Yoshi178 said:
No you listed completely subjective reasons as to why the Switch is your least favorite current gaming system

just because you love TLOU and prefer to buy a PS4 over the other systems because PS4 has games like that and uncharted etc on it, doesn't mean everyone else gives a crap about those games too. like i said, i personally couldn't give less of a shit about TLOU just like you couldn't give less of a shit about Mario games
I merely listed that every gaming system has more games than the Switch and more exclusives (outside of Xbox). Those are objective facts. I didn't list TLOU in that post so why are you bitching about it? Even the gaming systems that would be my secondary or third systems (PC and smartphone) have more games and exclusives than the Switch. Thus, the Switch is only better than the Xbox when I'm considering multiple systems and that's without any personal tastes involved (just numbers). Plus, the Switch costs more than other systems, again, only numbers.


Yoshi178 said:
easy, i'd much rather buy 10 quality games instead of buying 100 crappy games like COD
Looks like you're talking about personal tastes something we shouldn't be doing right?

And COD is just like Nintendo games where it's just the same game every release. It's hard to get excited for the same general games every generation. I've played Smash, DK, Zelda, Mario, etc 20+ years ago.


Yoshi178 said:
Phoenixmgs said:
The only system with less exclusives than the Switch is the Xbox.
not true

2018 PS4 Exclusives:
-God of War 4
-Spiderman
-Detroit Become Human
-Yakuza Kiwami 2
-Fist of the North Star Lost Paradise


Switch 2018 exclusives
-Labo games
-Octopath Traveller
-Mario Tennis Ace's
-Kirby Star Allies
-Super Mario Party
-Pokemon Lets Go
-Super Smash Bros Ultimate
I'm talking the entire generation, not one year. You're missing MLB The Show for PS4 as Sony is the only publisher making baseball sims. I'm pretty sure Sony owns more studios than Nintendo, which means they can publish more games obviously. Not to mention PS4 gets more exclusives via 3rd parties just because it has the biggest install base.


Yoshi178 said:
nothing Nintendo puts out will ever be a system seller in your eyes. hence why i said i doubt you'd ever buy a Nintendo System.
I literally just said the PS4 and Switch are tied at 2 in terms of exclusives I personally care about because of the Bayonetta series. Thus, I'd easily consider a Nintendo system over Sony if both systems had equal 3rd party support.
 

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Nintendo is in their own lane...good for them?

I like their core games.
 

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Sony could easily just announce the PS4 portable and PS5 at the same time If I was Sony I would make the PS4 portable and move on to the PS5
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
Yoshi178 said:
No you listed completely subjective reasons as to why the Switch is your least favorite current gaming system

just because you love TLOU and prefer to buy a PS4 over the other systems because PS4 has games like that and uncharted etc on it, doesn't mean everyone else gives a crap about those games too. like i said, i personally couldn't give less of a shit about TLOU just like you couldn't give less of a shit about Mario games
I merely listed that every gaming system has more games than the Switch and more exclusives (outside of Xbox). Those are objective facts. I didn't list TLOU in that post so why are you bitching about it? Even the gaming systems that would be my secondary or third systems (PC and smartphone) have more games and exclusives than the Switch. Thus, the Switch is only better than the Xbox when I'm considering multiple systems and that's without any personal tastes involved (just numbers).
you mean a console that's been out for 5 years has more games than a brand new console that hasn't even on the market for a full 2 years yet? No freaking way!

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Plus, the Switch costs more than other systems, again, only numbers.
holy crap i can't wait to see you start saying how much better and more logical it is to buy a Switch instead of a PS5 because the Switch will have more games than the PS5 and be less expensive when that system comes out in a year or 2.

and FYI, the Switch is cheaper than both the PS4 and Xbox One were when they launched


Phoenixmgs said:
Yoshi178 said:
easy, i'd much rather buy 10 quality games instead of buying 100 crappy games like COD
Looks like you're talking about personal tastes something we shouldn't be doing right?
just copying the master :)

Phoenixmgs said:
And COD is just like Nintendo games where it's just the same game every release. It's hard to get excited for the same general games every generation. I've played Smash, DK, Zelda, Mario, etc 20+ years ago.



Phoenixmgs said:
Yoshi178 said:
Phoenixmgs said:
The only system with less exclusives than the Switch is the Xbox.
not true

2018 PS4 Exclusives:
-God of War 4
-Spiderman
-Detroit Become Human
-Yakuza Kiwami 2
-Fist of the North Star Lost Paradise


Switch 2018 exclusives
-Labo games
-Octopath Traveller
-Mario Tennis Ace's
-Kirby Star Allies
-Super Mario Party
-Pokemon Lets Go
-Super Smash Bros Ultimate
I'm talking the entire generation, not one year.
oh don't even get me started on the entire generation. i can name you a fucktonne more Nintendo exclusives throughout the generation if you REALLY want to compare how many exclusives Sony gets compared to Nintendo

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Yoshi178 said:
nothing Nintendo puts out will ever be a system seller in your eyes. hence why i said i doubt you'd ever buy a Nintendo System.
I literally just said the PS4 and Switch are tied at 2 in terms of exclusives I personally care about because of the Bayonetta series. Thus, I'd easily consider a Nintendo system over Sony if both systems had equal 3rd party support.
and that's just it. why do you Need to pick one over the other when you can just have both?

and don't say finance is the issue. you could easily just get a job and save up for both. you just don't want to and would rather say how much better Playstation is than everything else instead.
 

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Yoshi178 said:
you mean a console that's been out for 5 years has more games than a brand new console that hasn't even on the market for a full 2 years yet? No freaking way!
It's not really hard to predict the kind of support a system will get based on history along with what it's presently getting. From the N64 on, Nintendo systems have gotten the least support. And, currently, the Switch is already not getting major releases like RE2, RDR, Sekiro, etc. So how is the Switch over its lifetime going to get more games than the PS4 or Xbone over their lifetimes?

holy crap i can't wait to see you start saying how much better and more logical it is to buy a Switch instead of a PS5 because the Switch will have more games than the PS5 and be less expensive when that system comes out in a year or 2.

and FYI, the Switch is cheaper than both the PS4 and Xbox One were when they launched
I said the WiiU was the better system for like the 1st year or two of the PS4/Xbone's life because it had better games. In the end, I knew the other systems would get better games because, you know, a lot can be learned from history.

But when the Switch came out and was competing for my gaming $$$, it was the most expensive option (and still is) than other secondary systems (everything but PS4) that have more games and more exclusives.

Naughty Dog made Jax and Daxter before Uncharted, they make TLOU as well. Guerrilla put out a new IP since Killzon with Horizon. Nintendo's IPs have been around mainly since the 80s and if not then, then the 90s. Sony releases far more new IPs (they are literally responsible for the Souls series) and varied games as well.

oh don't even get me started on the entire generation. i can name you a fucktonne more Nintendo exclusives throughout the generation if you REALLY want to compare how many exclusives Sony gets compared to Nintendo
Sony owns more devs than Nintendo plus they get more exclusive 3rd party support as well.

and that's just it. why do you Need to pick one over the other when you can just have both?

and don't say finance is the issue. you could easily just get a job and save up for both. you just don't want to and would rather say how much better Playstation is than everything else instead.
How does paying $400 to play 2 games make financial sense? It's not that I don't have the money, I don't feel that is at all a good use of money when I still have plenty of games that I've bought that I haven't played yet on the systems that I play on.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
It's not really hard to predict the kind of support a system will get based on history along with what it's presently getting. From the N64 on, Nintendo systems have gotten the least support. And, currently, the Switch is already not getting major releases like RE2, RDR, Sekiro, etc. So how is the Switch over its lifetime going to get more games than the PS4 or Xbone over their lifetimes?
just like i said in 2017 where people like yourself scoffed at me, if the Switch hardware and 3rd party game sales keep consistently selling high numbers, the more and more 3rd party games will be made for Switch. videogames take development and don't just magically appear out of thin air in 1 day.

and i couldn't give less of a shit if the switch gets more total games on it's platform than the PS4 or Xbone in it's total lifespan, the better Switch does now the better support Nintendo will have for both the current platform and also it's future game console when the Switch 2 or whatever the fuck it's called comes out.

Phoenixmgs said:
the Switch is already not getting major releases like RE2, RDR, Sekiro, etc.
The Switch already is getting major release's like Doom Eternal, Mortal Kombat 11, Crash N-Sane Trilogy, CTR remastered, Warframe, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, etc





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Naughty Dog made Jax and Daxter before Uncharted, they make TLOU as well. Guerrilla put out a new IP since Killzone with Horizon. Nintendo's IPs have been around mainly since the 80s and if not then, then the 90s. Sony releases far more new IPs (they are literally responsible for the Souls series) and varied games as well.
you said Sony put's out more exclusive's. i couldn't give less a shit if they're new IP's or not. the fact is, Nintendo systems pump out shitloads more exclusive's than Sony's do

and as for sony releaseing more varied games:






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Sony owns more devs than Nintendo plus they get more exclusive 3rd party support as well.
we're talking about how many exclusive's the systems get, not d**k size comparing which one has more developers or which gets more specifically exclusive 3rd Party support.

don't get me started on how much exclusive's Nintendo Switch/Wii U get compared to the PS4 which is what we were just talking about.




Phoenixmgs said:
How does paying $400 to play 2 games make financial sense?
Switch was $300 when it launched in America. PS4 was $400.

and how does paying $400 to play 1 game make financial sense?

 

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Yoshi178 said:
just like i said in 2017 where people like yourself scoffed at me, if the Switch hardware and 3rd party game sales keep consistently selling high numbers, the more and more 3rd party games will be made for Switch. videogames take development and don't just magically appear out of thin air in 1 day.

and i couldn't give less of a shit if the switch gets more total games on it's platform than the PS4 or Xbone in it's total lifespan, the better Switch does now the better support Nintendo will have for both the current platform and also it's future game console when the Switch 2 or whatever the fuck it's called comes out.
The point of gaming platforms is to get software and not much else. You don't care how much software your gaming platform gets? That's pretty weird. You mean just like when the Wii sold like hotcakes and that translated into no support for the WiiU? There's pretty basic and easy reasons why PlayStations, Xboxes, and PCs get all the games and Nintendo just doesn't, it's been happening for now 5 Nintendo gens where the systems don't get games, it ain't going to change if Nintendo keeps putting out the same type of systems. History teaches you a lot.

The Switch already is getting major release's like Doom Eternal, Mortal Kombat 11, Crash N-Sane Trilogy, CTR remastered, Warframe, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, etc
The Switch is also not getting lots and lots of other major releases for the same reasons the Wii and WiiU didn't get major releases. There was that initial 1-year period where the WiiU got the major releases on even the same date as the other systems like getting Batman Arkham Origins the same exact time as the other systems. There's a very specific reason why that happened and why Nintendo systems normally don't have that happen. That's all Nintendo would have to do to get all the major releases but they just don't do it.

you said Sony put's out more exclusive's. i couldn't give less a shit if they're new IP's or not. the fact is, Nintendo systems pump out shitloads more exclusive's than Sony's do

and as for sony releaseing more varied games:

Your proof?

New IPs are important because every subsequent sequel to any franchise provides diminishing returns due to it being less and less of a fresh experience every time.

5 games that take place on earth = every game being the same?

we're talking about how many exclusive's the systems get, not d**k size comparing which one has more developers or which gets more specifically exclusive 3rd Party support.

don't get me started on how much exclusive's Nintendo Switch/Wii U get compared to the PS4 which is what we were just talking about.
More studios that a publisher controls means the more games it can publish, basic logic. PS4 has almost as many exclusives as the WiiU and Switch combined. So it takes 2 Nintendo systems to outdo a single Sony system.

Switch was $300 when it launched in America. PS4 was $400.

and how does paying $400 to play 1 game make financial sense?

Bloodborne is a slightly above average game honestly. If you like Bloodborne, wouldn't you like just about every other PS4 exclusive?
 

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Seth Carter said:
A tablet that can run Steam and connect a bluetooth controller.

Not really a big ask all in all. And probably Apple or Samsung could already do it if they were bothered.

Though there is the same problem that the passing fart in the wind that was "SteamBoxes" had. Which is to actively breach the console market with Steam (or whichever of its competitors), you immediately need a filter to get rid of all the games the system can't run, or means to lock settings on games to where they can run.


Sony could also still make an effort at it. You get into portables and the two flip positions and its Sony who's poisoned their well with a bunch of slapdash efforts and abrupt support drops, but little is stopping them from trying their own climb out of that other then a willingess to invest in a portable/hybrid.
Good tablets and even some phones pretty much made the portable market obsolete outside of the Switch so I do not think there really is a market for new portable competitors. Nintendo has an existing fan base that supports it is the only way it really survives.


As it is, if I wanted to I could just run emulators for existing Nintendo games and play them on my tablet. This can be done for most games that exist already so I am not sure why anyone needs a dedicated portable just for this outside of a durable toy for small children.