Will they just put Metriod to rest...
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Metroid will die right around the time that Mario and Link make their last game, which won't be for a very, very long time. On the whole "Voice Actor will ruin Metroid" thing, everyone had their ideal voice for Samus and some people are bound to like or hate the voice actors regardless of what happens.
Prime Series was developed by the remaining team of Iguana Entertainment which were responsible for Turok I and II (III was when they went downhill). When they reformed as Retro Studios, they were the perfect FPS team to revive the Metroid series to what it was known as today. I know Prime III wasn't as good but the truth was that Nintendo forced them to release it early. In fact, they did that to most of their franchises on the Wii namely Brawl (code was found for characters from melee that were omitted along with other characters that never made it) and Prime 3.
If Nintendo would rush those games to release knowing they could cash in on their name, why would they hire Team Ninja who just makes anime-based stuff? So they can cater to their home country. Why would they throw in anime-themed melodrama (look at the trailers)and make Samus look like a androgynous teenager? Personally I can't stand to look at that, its hideous and repulsive. Did anyone look how the combat works? You can't move in first person view!
Nintendo doesn't care for the Metroid series anymore. If they did, they would've let Retro flesh out Prime 3 and let them keep the rights to the series. Aside from that, anyone remember Metroid Dread, the real 2d sequel to the series? It was hinted in Prime 1. What happened to it? Nintendo is cashing in on its own franchises by doing remakes (as we saw from remaking pokemon games, brawl being just a few modes and characters better than melee, and a mario galaxy TWO) because they are afraid of going ahead in the story because it would mean more resources and furthering the plot to something solid. Heck, one can argue the Wii is a remake of the gamecube just marketed and hyped very well. I bought into it and stood by it for years but now its time i just stick with what doesn't fail, old games and PC.
If Nintendo would rush those games to release knowing they could cash in on their name, why would they hire Team Ninja who just makes anime-based stuff? So they can cater to their home country. Why would they throw in anime-themed melodrama (look at the trailers)and make Samus look like a androgynous teenager? Personally I can't stand to look at that, its hideous and repulsive. Did anyone look how the combat works? You can't move in first person view!
Nintendo doesn't care for the Metroid series anymore. If they did, they would've let Retro flesh out Prime 3 and let them keep the rights to the series. Aside from that, anyone remember Metroid Dread, the real 2d sequel to the series? It was hinted in Prime 1. What happened to it? Nintendo is cashing in on its own franchises by doing remakes (as we saw from remaking pokemon games, brawl being just a few modes and characters better than melee, and a mario galaxy TWO) because they are afraid of going ahead in the story because it would mean more resources and furthering the plot to something solid. Heck, one can argue the Wii is a remake of the gamecube just marketed and hyped very well. I bought into it and stood by it for years but now its time i just stick with what doesn't fail, old games and PC.
Frankly the gameplay could be the best ever, as long as they polish out any rough edges, otherwise reviewers will have a field day with it.
Samus is too valuble for Nintendo to lose as a primary character in its lineup. That blue skinsuit rakes in the cash no matter how you slice it. Metroid looks like it's heading for a radical makeover in the near futur though, but thats just what I think. I'd say it will be around for a good while longer.
If you think Nintendo is going to be gentle with any of it's characters you haven't seen enough mario games.
Sorry, but Metroid's one of the better Nintendo staples. So, unless you're really hungering for Super Mario Quantum Flux, I suggest you let the powersuit do the talking.
Metroid is the BEST Nintendo staple. I realize not everyone likes all the games, but for my money the series does more to shake up each individual game in terms of both story and gameplay than the other Ninty franchises. Not to mention it's really the only "mature" Nintendo first-party game in terms of story and characters. Not mature in that it's trying to be extreme, but mature in the sense it doesn't shrink from grotesque imagery, graphic storylines (Fusion and the whole opening sequence) or character deaths. There are no lives in Metroid-when Samus dies she freaking dies dead.FalloutJack said:
As long as people keep buying the games, they'll keep making them, and people will keep buying them until they start to suck (and, if Star Wars is any sign, long after (*cries*)), so it's inevitable that the game will go downhill eventually. Sorry to break that to you.
I think Metroid deserves to live because it's willing to change things. Prime was vastly different then any Metroid game that came before, and Other M follows suite on top of that. Even within the Prime series itself each games presented subtle changes to the fundamental structure of each title that made them a much more varied experience then simply a new array of powerups for all occasions.
Personally I think Zelda needs to change itself or go away. Yes, Ocarina of Time was fantastic, I'm not doubting that. And Twilight Princess was certainly good. But the problem is that what the games actually are always feels like it falls short of what they want to be. Metroid is extremely comfortable with the level of storytelling it has, (and is willing to explore even more active forms of storytelling like Other M) and Mario is perfectly comfortable with being totally gameplay focused.
But Zelda always reaches for a level of epic, powerful storytelling that its extremely basic dialog and lack of solid characters is never able to support. And until the franchise takes more cues from something like Dragon Age it will always feel incomplete to me.
I'm not trying to flame or anything, just presenting my counter-point.
Personally I think Zelda needs to change itself or go away. Yes, Ocarina of Time was fantastic, I'm not doubting that. And Twilight Princess was certainly good. But the problem is that what the games actually are always feels like it falls short of what they want to be. Metroid is extremely comfortable with the level of storytelling it has, (and is willing to explore even more active forms of storytelling like Other M) and Mario is perfectly comfortable with being totally gameplay focused.
But Zelda always reaches for a level of epic, powerful storytelling that its extremely basic dialog and lack of solid characters is never able to support. And until the franchise takes more cues from something like Dragon Age it will always feel incomplete to me.
I'm not trying to flame or anything, just presenting my counter-point.
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...ahem. Pardon me.
I'm sorry, but did you just entertain the idea that Nintendo would allow one (out of a possible three) of their first-party game series' to end? Just because the story resolved itself nicely?
(resists second fit of laughter)
...ahem. Pardon me.
I'm sorry, but did you just entertain the idea that Nintendo would allow one (out of a possible three) of their first-party game series' to end? Just because the story resolved itself nicely?
(resists second fit of laughter)
if they keep making them as good as they have been, they can keep doing it for as long as they want, If they made 20 shitty metroid games it doesn't take away from the good ones (nearly every single one made as of today)
(edit: I posted here already and didn't realize it. oops, oh well)
(edit: I posted here already and didn't realize it. oops, oh well)
What... Prime 2 was the weakest of the Prime games.Lt.Snuffles said:
I loved Corruption, the wii controls made aiming quick and easy. They weren't twitchy at all, I found them fairly smooth and native to the FPS style. Hunters was ok, I didn't really find that the 3D metroid gameplay suited the DS.
As for multiplayer, apart from hunters no Metroid game has multiplayer. There's really no way to shoehorn it into the game. How would it work? It wouldn't.
Anyway, you seem to be one of those people who are convinced that games must have multiplayer to be good. I disagree. thre are plenty of games that can claim greatness on singleplayer alone. Corruption is one of those.
You're willing to let the metroid series change Samus from what you have shown to this:teh_pwning_dude said:I'm happy with a shift. A series that stops evolving and changing is a dead series (Mario lol). Everyone here rags on Mario for releasing the same shit, but when Metroid changes, you complain. If you don't like it, that sucks, but try to respect it for trying something different.daflame said:
Also I'm not sure you're using androgynous correctly. If thisseems androgynous to you, I can't even imagine what the girls look like where you live.Audio said:
Team Ninja didn't make those pictures you were using as reference, Nintendo R&D1 made them in their game boy advance game Metroid Zero Mission (which was a remake) as endings. The picture that I showed you as evidence that they are in fact infusing anime-androgyny into Samus. I hope I don't have to compare it to other showcases of what anime-androgyny looks like but if you're interested, look at the male leads for that star ocean game that unskippable reviewed with Yahtzee. Specifically, the ones that seem to be of teen-age.