To be frank, if we're talking about plot armor in a world where supposedly anyone can die, Bran, the cripple kid with no one for guards but a teenage swamp dweller a brain damaged stable hand (who said cripple inflicted the brain damage on) and a wolf as he marches into the most dangerous and inhospitable place on the globe, should've bit the dust a long time ago.Pyrian said:
'Will you just DIE already!'
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The bulk of characters from most anime I've seen lately. Shoku-geki (sp?) and Vandread especially.
Eric Cartman as well.
Eric Cartman as well.
Orochimaru. I get that his whole thing is trying to cheat death, but him getting away with doing so in the end takes away a lot of the significance of his character. He should have died when sasuke killed him, it would have been the perfect ending for him. His quest for the perfect form eventually lead him to train the person who would end his life once and for all. When it happens he is breaking down, living in a dying body just so he can steal someone else's. He has turned himself into a monster that has to cling to another body like a parasite. Then, at the end of the series he gets an indistructible immortal body with no drawbacks whatsoever. So much for poetic justice
I'm going to include characters whose presence irks me, but not including those that meet the following criteria:
-Keep turning up and keep getting back up, but are still engaging on some level
-Keep hanging around, but are detestable in a good way (your Ramsay Snows/Joffrey Lannisters of fiction)
So with that said:
-Travis (Blake's 7): I don't dislike Travis per se, and he at least has an arc of sorts over the first two seasons he's in, but it's an arc that requires the protagonists to keep letting him go, when they could just kill him. It really stretches credulity in a setting that's already stretching credulity.
-Seymour (Final Fantasy X): You keep killing him and he keeps coming back, because Yuna squanders every chance she has to banish him right up until the end. He's at least a functional adversary that ties in with the context, but he's not so good a villain that him staying around is worth the protagonists holding the idiot ball.
-Morgana (Merlin): Sort of. She's kind of squandered in that towards the end of the series, repetition had really set in, and her death is so anti-climactic, in what was an absolutely terrible conclusion to the series. I think my listing her here is more her being a victim of circumstance rather than me disliking her character, but I do feel Morgana overstayed her welcome.
-Cromartie (Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles): Have I ever said how much I loathe this show? Well, if I haven't, now you know. And this bozo is just one of the many reasons. That's right, in T:SCC, every T-888 in existence has been sent back to the past (because this level of time travel is a thing now), and gets taken out in minutes (because that's also a thing), but this jackass, who loses his head and flesh, and still goes through a time displacement sphere, sticks around for the entire first season (yay...), before finally being downed in season 2 by SMGs because...SMGs can take down a Terminator now?
Yeah, screw him.
-The Master (Doctor Who): Sort of - Doctor Who has kept bringing back villains, but the Master really feels out of place, since the last we saw him was at the end of Ten's run (good closure on multiple levels), but then game back as "Missy." Which is a shame, because on one hand, as a character on her own, "Missy" is quite enjoyable, but on the other, it feels out of sync with the Master in the past, and unfortunately introduced the precedent of time lords switching genders. If Missy was a completely separate character I'd love her for it, but as it is now, the Master is on this list.
-Gabriel (The Walking Dead): I haven't watched beyond season 5 of TWD, and with season 5 being my least favorite of those seasons, I probably won't get to season 6 in the near future. But, Gabriel. In concept, he's fine - unprepared for the harsh nature of the world, ignorant of how bad things are, and doesn't rise to the occassion. That's fine, not everyone could adapt. Still, by the end of season 5, Gabriel has established himself as a liar, careless (leaves the gate open), a coward, and an emotional sadist (e.g. the Sasha scene). Characters like The Governor fit into "Magnificent Bastard" territory. Gabriel, at least in my experience, is more in the "hurry up and die you twat" territory.
Edit: Oh, and:
Season 3 was the last Arrow season I watched, and how Merlyn operated was part of it. I'm fine with him surviving season 1. What's less palatable is that everyone seems to give him a free pass for increasingly convoluted reasons. Yes, he's Thea's father. He's also a man who used Thea to kill Sarah, dragged them into a conflict with the League of Shadows, blackmailed Moira, and used a device that killed hundreds of people. And the protagonists are apparently fine with all this.
I'd be fine with Malcolm surviving if it wasn't for the fact that his survival hinges on Ollie and co. holding the idiot ball.
-Keep turning up and keep getting back up, but are still engaging on some level
-Keep hanging around, but are detestable in a good way (your Ramsay Snows/Joffrey Lannisters of fiction)
So with that said:
-Travis (Blake's 7): I don't dislike Travis per se, and he at least has an arc of sorts over the first two seasons he's in, but it's an arc that requires the protagonists to keep letting him go, when they could just kill him. It really stretches credulity in a setting that's already stretching credulity.
-Seymour (Final Fantasy X): You keep killing him and he keeps coming back, because Yuna squanders every chance she has to banish him right up until the end. He's at least a functional adversary that ties in with the context, but he's not so good a villain that him staying around is worth the protagonists holding the idiot ball.
-Morgana (Merlin): Sort of. She's kind of squandered in that towards the end of the series, repetition had really set in, and her death is so anti-climactic, in what was an absolutely terrible conclusion to the series. I think my listing her here is more her being a victim of circumstance rather than me disliking her character, but I do feel Morgana overstayed her welcome.
-Cromartie (Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles): Have I ever said how much I loathe this show? Well, if I haven't, now you know. And this bozo is just one of the many reasons. That's right, in T:SCC, every T-888 in existence has been sent back to the past (because this level of time travel is a thing now), and gets taken out in minutes (because that's also a thing), but this jackass, who loses his head and flesh, and still goes through a time displacement sphere, sticks around for the entire first season (yay...), before finally being downed in season 2 by SMGs because...SMGs can take down a Terminator now?
Yeah, screw him.
-The Master (Doctor Who): Sort of - Doctor Who has kept bringing back villains, but the Master really feels out of place, since the last we saw him was at the end of Ten's run (good closure on multiple levels), but then game back as "Missy." Which is a shame, because on one hand, as a character on her own, "Missy" is quite enjoyable, but on the other, it feels out of sync with the Master in the past, and unfortunately introduced the precedent of time lords switching genders. If Missy was a completely separate character I'd love her for it, but as it is now, the Master is on this list.
-Gabriel (The Walking Dead): I haven't watched beyond season 5 of TWD, and with season 5 being my least favorite of those seasons, I probably won't get to season 6 in the near future. But, Gabriel. In concept, he's fine - unprepared for the harsh nature of the world, ignorant of how bad things are, and doesn't rise to the occassion. That's fine, not everyone could adapt. Still, by the end of season 5, Gabriel has established himself as a liar, careless (leaves the gate open), a coward, and an emotional sadist (e.g. the Sasha scene). Characters like The Governor fit into "Magnificent Bastard" territory. Gabriel, at least in my experience, is more in the "hurry up and die you twat" territory.
Edit: Oh, and:
Ugh. This.McMarbles said:
Season 3 was the last Arrow season I watched, and how Merlyn operated was part of it. I'm fine with him surviving season 1. What's less palatable is that everyone seems to give him a free pass for increasingly convoluted reasons. Yes, he's Thea's father. He's also a man who used Thea to kill Sarah, dragged them into a conflict with the League of Shadows, blackmailed Moira, and used a device that killed hundreds of people. And the protagonists are apparently fine with all this.
I'd be fine with Malcolm surviving if it wasn't for the fact that his survival hinges on Ollie and co. holding the idiot ball.
Peggy Hill. Never have I hated a character so much. I disliked Catylin Stark so much that when I read the Red Wedding bit in ASoIaF I was laughing so hard I had to put the book down. Every "shock" reaction video I saw when the TV show hit that part put a huge smile on my face. When they brought her back in the book I was seriously disappointed. But even that pales in comparison to how much I wanted Peggy Hill to die. I don't, just in general, like Mike Judge's work. I don't think he's very talented, I've never really found any of his stuff that funny. But King of the Hill had some decent stuff and even some actually laugh out loud funny moments. But Peggy was so insufferable... I could not watch that show without someone telling me that she didn't have a large part in the episode (which didn't often happen.) And then someone told me she jumped out of a plane and her parachute didn't open...
I was glued to that episode, and had to give up on the series entirely when she survived... and that survival made her even worse and more unbearable.
I was glued to that episode, and had to give up on the series entirely when she survived... and that survival made her even worse and more unbearable.
Okay, Gundam fans. Raise your hand if you couldn't stand Relena Peacecraft.Windknight said:
*Raises Gundam Heavyarms heavy arms*
Thrall, post Wrath of the Lich King, and the Warcraft Orcs in general. The Cataclysm expansion was a giant love letter to him that no one really liked, then we spent Mists of Pandaria basically mopping up the fallout of his decision to make Garrosh Hellscream the Warchief of the Horde. Then came Warlords of Draenor (which I enjoyed as a game) but the constant ease at which the Orcs just threw caution to the wind and decided to be evil douchebags even without the blood of Mannoroth really grated: the Draenei would have been well within their rights to genocide the Draenor Orcs.
Fuck the Orcs.
Fuck the Orcs.
Joffrey from game of thrones. he should not have survived as long as he did. sure he has a overprotective mother and father that doesn't give a shit but the way he acts im not buying it that he survives for any period of time. even if it wouldn't be a assassination or even a disgruntled servant slipping him some poison the guy is so dumb he would have found a way to get himself killed. i mean its not like he always stay inside the castle either. we saw him go into the woods alone un-escorted
If it makes you feel better he hasnt been on arrow at all this season and has been part of the Legion of Doom and is quite amusing when teamed up with DarhkHawki said:
Kratos. His revolving door policy towards going to Hades was just comical by the third game, and him apparently having cheated death once more in the new one doesn't help. I for one found his suicide at the end of GoWIII to be a fairly powerful, bitter and deserving end to a hateful, inhuman and wantonly cruel protagonist.
There's several characters and monsters in Gantz who fit this trope to a tee. I distinctly remember one particular boss monster getting literally crushed to a puddle, and still recover. Well the manga is trash anyway, and I'm glad it's over.
Everyone in Supernatural, despite them having all done so multiple times at this point. I haven't even watched past season 8, but from what I hear the series is long fucking overdue a swift and merciful execution.
There's several characters and monsters in Gantz who fit this trope to a tee. I distinctly remember one particular boss monster getting literally crushed to a puddle, and still recover. Well the manga is trash anyway, and I'm glad it's over.
Everyone in Supernatural, despite them having all done so multiple times at this point. I haven't even watched past season 8, but from what I hear the series is long fucking overdue a swift and merciful execution.
Remember Kai Leng, Mary Sue OC forced on the game via bad fan-fiction that somehow got published?
Remember how he repeatedly escaped though cutscene through BS means?
He was the worst thing in that game, which I will remind you had
Remember how he repeatedly escaped though cutscene through BS means?
He was the worst thing in that game, which I will remind you had
an out-of-nowhere AI taking the form of a dead kid that the game assumed you had a connection to (but were just wishing the dream sequences would fuck off) spouting retcons at you before forcing you towards the ending machine
In fairness, seasons 7, 8 and 9 were all pretty awful with a lot of squandered potential in the ideas they had. "Oh no,the Angels have fallen, let's spend the next 5 episodes chasing the monster of the week instead of concentrating on the interesting stuff". But 10 was OK and despite the ending, 11 was quite good. I've only seen a bit of 12 so far but that been OK. But I agree, it needs to end as soon as possible.bartholen said:
Jack, the "Main character" of Lost.
He didn't have to be the focus, he's really bland, and Matthew Fox is a terrible actor.
The last shot of that terrible series is his eyes slowly shutting while the life drains from him. They knew what their fans wanted.
He didn't have to be the focus, he's really bland, and Matthew Fox is a terrible actor.
The last shot of that terrible series is his eyes slowly shutting while the life drains from him. They knew what their fans wanted.
Walley Wellesey from Eat Lead: The Return of Matt Hazard was one of the most infuriating main antagonists I ever faced in a video game. Wanting to lay the smackdown on his ***** ass gave me all the more motivation to beat the game.
I gotta say, Neil Patrick Harris really nailed the roll. His portrayal of Wellesey was the proper kind of infuriating that really motivates a person to see him go down.
I gotta say, Neil Patrick Harris really nailed the roll. His portrayal of Wellesey was the proper kind of infuriating that really motivates a person to see him go down.
To answer the question, Kai Leng from the books is far, far worst than Kai Leng from the game (yes, picture that). Picking a fight with 2 Krogans unarmed? No problem. Being stranded in Omega with everyone at his tail? Childsplay. Getting to face a biotic so powerful that makes Jack look like a crippled toddler? Nothing he can't handle. Facing a team of elite Turian commandos, while being shot in both knees? Pfff...MCerberus said:
Seriously, I stopped being interested in any story the moment Kai Leng showed his stupid face. He has a plot armor thick as a concrete wall and reality bending powers. He is the worst kind of idea for an anti-Shepard... If you think of Shepard as some sort of unstoppable paragon messiah, Kai Leng is his renegade (i.e. unlikable) Cerberus' counterpart.
I was inner-monologuing this on repeat as I watched the movie Melancholia. All the characters were so dis-likable that I almost cheered out loud in the theater when the apocalypse killed everyone at the end.
I can't recall that particular detail, but yes, that cereal part did happen... just one of the many issues with the character: the backstory of a professional hitman, the personality of a brat, the skills of a Mary Sue (I know the words are used a lot, but damn it, if there is any character in any fictional work that deserves it, its him). No explanation is given to the whole cereal scene, other than "because he can".MCerberus said:
I would say she did a really good job of being right on the fence when you consider how much she was shit on by life.Saelune said:
She was an excellent counterexample to George: shitty shitty life, but she let out make her bitter while he broke free of it (with a little help from her, whether intentional or not)