Woman murdered for rejecting a man, another gets her throat slashed for the same.

[Dragonmouth]

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Might want to add some more there so you don't get modded for low content, even though the link is very relevant.

I did. Thanks.

 

[PdYyP1iWeJaWBnlafPe4]

Female privilege is not having rape definitions redefinited against you for the sake of statistics.

 

[Dragonmouth]

Well, any group will tend to look back if you focus on every bad thing that they do. Shit, you could make my local church group look like psychopaths if you homed in on the right stuff.
I'm getting bored of this pressure from people, acting as if though I should apologise for my gender.

Why is even a mention of the difficulties women experience equated with bigotry against men? No one is asking you to apologise for your gender. They're just saying to be mindful with how women experience the world when interacting with them.

 

[Karadalis]

To extend on this; I'm a 17 year old hermit, virgin, I stay inside the house literally ALL DAY, ALMOST EVERY DAY.

Thus far, in my seventeen years, I have had 2 attempted kidnappings/sexual assaults against my person, at least five sexual advances towards me by men older then me, two within the past two months. Not over the internet. In real life, just going to the store down the block and back on foot.

My most significant run in with a man was a man who stalked my mother in an attempt to kidnap my little sister, eventually bringing it into the court where he worked and getting visitation. He outright lied in court, worked in direct contact with the papers used in the court battle and intimately knew the person who came to interview me and my little sister for the case.

So we ran from the state over the course of about five to seven years, moved at least three times and eventually through a massive legal battle and crap tons of money we got the case moved from his court and into another one that demanded DNA testing in order to prove he was the biological father that he claimed to be.

He wasn't. We won. He ruined my peace of mind and safety for five years and more then likely I won't be able to trust many people again since in the earliest times of my family's relationship with him he was considering within the bounds of trustworthy and even gave us a free place to stay with him during hard times (though, that was when it got weird.)

Another story that tells a little more about me. I don't dress like other girls dress. I stay head to toe covered as much as I can manage, usually shrugging on a sweat jacket and keeping it zipped up - mainly because I'm well endowed and don't want attention. I still get attention. Almost all sexual from men.

This isn't just a 'media tells women to be scared so they act all scared'. This is real fucking life. Most women, at some time in their lives, will have to deal with some guy that either can't take a hint or don't want to and most women, at some time in their lives, will know or come in contact with rape/sexual assault victims or perpetrators. You can claim from statistics, pull numbers and selectively ignore what you want but making the claim that women are belittled by fearing something that happens a-fucking-lot, is outright ignorance.

Hell, IMO you thinking that a woman (assuming maliciously) claiming you raped her child would ruin your life is more ridiculous given the hoops one has to jump through.

A) What you might see as "sexualy aproaching you" might be seen by them merely as flirting/complementing... could you give us some examples? BTW i do know that... a certain type of males behave like neanderthals... i had the fortune of working together with some sex jokes tooting jerks that bragged all day long about how much game they got... those people where mostly sad little singles that had to much free time at work -.-

b) People are not able to know your personal history by looking at your forehead, so dont lump them all together. I think some of those males would act differently towards you if they knew what you have been through. But since they dont and since they seem to think youre attractive they will try to flirt with you. Thats how it works out there in the real world, that is how people get to know each other. Be it at the bar or in the disco or wherever... people flirt. Alot of males (mostly through peer pressure) are still of the mindset that they should start the "engagement"... wich often leads to very crincheworthy aproaches.

Believe me when i say that most males want to punch themselves in the face at home afterwards thinking about what they said. Atleast the better ones that is.


c) Media attention or Money is what makes the courts move in your favour. Public pressure through media is and allways will be very effective because everyone involved gets put under a magnifying glass. And money... well its money. It was very unfortunate that the guy was working inside the court and shows that even modern law systems are anything but immune to failure.

d) Its not only every woman its also every man. When i worked with the aforementioned neanderthals i had to deal with ALOT of what you would consider sexual harassment simply because i didnt fall in line with all the bloody sexjokes. I had my sexuality openly questioned, i had my butt grabbed on different occasions and one of the idiots even dared to grab me in the groin.

Eventually i had enough and took it to the boss, and was imidiantly placed in a different spot with the person who grabbed me simply getting a "dont do it again" speech with no further consequences. After that work was a hellhole and i only stayed for another year for the pay. My contract ran out and they never offered me another one because i was a "traitor" and everyone hated my guts for getting the bosses involved.

Not only that but i wasnt taken very serious either, told to suck it up. Incidantly when two of those morons bothered a female intern whose daddy was also incidantly working in the upper office they both got fired on the spot for sexual harassment. And they did not touch her.

So yeah, males have also to deal with sexual harassment from other males. But we are told to keep our mouths shut about it becuase we are MALE!!! HURRRR DURRR!!!

And no this does not take away from your example but i think its important not to forget that those assholes arent very picky when it comes to sexual harassment. Only if its male vs male its often glossed over as a "joke" and not ment "serious"

 

[VondeVon]

That conclusion is pretty terrible when you consider the fact that men usually make up about 70 to 80 percent of homicide victims worldwide...

I think the question is 'who is killing all those men'?

Answer? Mostly men. (99% of murderers in the US(2010) were male, a quick google search says.)
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl03.xls

This forum looks pretty full so probably someone's already said something similar ages ago...

 

[Eddie the head]

Boy that sucks. . . . . Not much left to say. . . . That quote is kind of stupid, but I'm getting the impression it's a joke. And an unfunny one at that. . . . . . Why are there 7 pages about this? A kind of shitty thing happens and someone made a fear baiting joke about it. Yeah I'm stretched for things to say at this point.

 

[Areani]

Spoiler: Mod edit: Please use spoilers when posting lots of images

Comedian Phil Hartman was murdered by his wife on May 27th 1998 [http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/TV/9805/28/hartman/]







NFL player Steve McNair was murdered by his girlfriend on July 4th, 2009 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McNair#Death]







John Wayne Bobbitt had his penis cut completely off on June 23rd, 1993 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bobbitt_(penile_amputee)#Incident]







Travis Alexander was murdered by Jodi Arias on June 4th, 2008 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Travis_Alexander#Death]







She later murdered their 1 year-old son on August 18th, 2003 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Zachary_Turner#Bagby_murder_and_investigation])












Brenda Spencer killed two and injured nine at Cleveland Elementary School on January 29th, 1979 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Elementary_School_Shooting_(San_Diego)#Shooting]







Dann killed one boy and injured five others at Hubbard Woods Elementary School on May 20th, 1988 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Dann#Attacks]







Jennifer San Marco killed eight people at Goleta postal facility on January 30th, 2006 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_San_Marco]







Sylvia Seegrist killed three and injured seven during a shooting spree at a Springfield mall on October 30th, 1985 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Seegrist]







Mary Ann Holder killed five children including her own son in Pleasent Gardens, NC on November 20th, 2011 [http://murderpedia.org/female.H/h/holder-mary-ann.htm]







Jullian Robbins killed one and injured two at Penn State on September 17th, 1997 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetzel_Union_Building_shooting#1996_Shooting]







Heather Smith killed two then committed suicide at Spanaway Junior High School on November 26th, 1985 [http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1985/Distraught-Over-Losing-Boyfriend-Girl-Kills-Two-Then-Herself/id-075d33aa6600d2e6b30d969ba3edaf0d]







Latina Williams killed two others then self at Louisiana Technical College on February 8th, 2008 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Technical_College#2008_shooting]







Amy Bishop Anderson killed three and wounded three others at the University of Alabama on February 12th, 2010 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_University_of_Alabama_in_Huntsville_shooting#Shooter]

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mom-who-killed-son-4-because-she-thought-he-was-gay-sentenced-to-minimum-of-25-years-255823211.html [http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mom-who-killed-son-4-because-she-thought-he-was-gay-sentenced-to-minimum-of-25-years-255823211.html]
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/woman-struck-killed-teen-sues-family-article-1.1770602 [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/woman-struck-killed-teen-sues-family-article-1.1770602]
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/28/jury-selection-to-begin-for-tampa-military-mother-accused-killing-her-2/ [http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/28/jury-selection-to-begin-for-tampa-military-mother-accused-killing-her-2/]
http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/04/30/chinese-woman-throws-baby-under-moving-truck-kills-daughter-hu-chen/ [http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/04/30/chinese-woman-throws-baby-under-moving-truck-kills-daughter-hu-chen/]
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/Kolkata-mom-kills-boy-slits-own-throat/articleshow/34657984.cms [http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/Kolkata-mom-kills-boy-slits-own-throat/articleshow/34657984.cms]
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2014/05/05/schenecker-julie-opening-statements-murder-trial-florida [http://www.hlntv.com/article/2014/05/05/schenecker-julie-opening-statements-murder-trial-florida]
15 year old girl stabs and kills 14 year old boy after argument [http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/14-Year-Old-Boy-Stabbed-by-Teen-Girl-in-South-Philly-Police-245070551.html]
13 year old girl stabs self, 13 year old friend, and 11 year old sister [http://fox40.com/2014/04/05/teenage-girl-stabs-herself-others-at-sleepover/]
14 year old girl stabs and kills 11 year old sister 40 times because she thought she was ungrateful [http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justice/illinois-sister-stabbing/]
16 year old girl stabs and kills 16 year old best friend 60 times [http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/31/girl-16-stabs-her-best-friend-65-times-following-facebook-dispute-4684020/] (what the best friend did wasn't okay but it did not call for murder)
11 year old girl stabs mother while she is sleeping 9 times because she wasn?t allowed to go outside [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535306/Girl-11-stabs-sleeping-mother-nine-times-head-neck-shoulder-angry-frustrated.html]
Woman stabs boyfriend over $200. [http://www.mjemagazine.com/photos-nigerian-girl-stabs-boy-friend-death-200-moscow/]
15 year old female stabs 19 year old man who tried to protect his 22 year old female friend (who was also stabbed) after argument [http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/09/21/11/44/teen-girl-stabs-two-with-kitchen-knife]
Mother stabs and kills four year old son to death [http://siteground243.com/~hiram155/2014/03/31/mother-with-history-of-mental-illness-stabs-four-year-old-son-to-death-with-kitchen-knife/]
18 year old female stabs and kills mother in face and neck 79 times [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/06/isabella-guzman-_n_3880866.html]
Woman drives car into church and stabs husband on altar for ?worshipping Nascar? [http://gawker.com/woman-stabs-husband-for-worshipping-nascar-crashes-c-1545829899]
24 year old woman stabs sister after argument [http://www.wgal.com/news/susquehanna-valley/state/woman-stabs-sister/25572250]
34 year old woman stabs fiance over argument on what their wedding color scheme should be [http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/26/wedding-color-scheme-stabbing/4215363/]
28 year old woman stabs boyfriend in eye for refusing to have a threesome [http://gawker.com/florida-woman-stabs-boyfriend-in-the-eye-for-turning-do-1443119495]
21 year old stabs 21 year old sister over argument over apple fritters [http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/27/22071099-ohio-woman-stabs-sister-during-christmas-fight-over-apple-fritters?lite]
54 year old woman stabs boyfriend for refusing to stop listening to The Eagles [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/17/vernett-bader-stabs-roommate-ex-the-eagles_n_3943852.html]
24 year old woman stabs self and then claims a man did it [http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2014/02/bremerton-woman-stabs-herself-claims-tall-man-did-it/]
52 year old woman stabs 45 year old boyfriend with knife and fork after argument [http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvcrime/2014/04/19/police-woman-stabs-boyfriend-with-knife-fork-in-covina/]
Woman stabs 61 year old mother [http://www.local8now.com/home/headlines/Crimetracker-Woman-stabbed-multiple-times-in-West-Knoxville-apartment-245981651.html?device=phone]
48 year old woman stabs 24 year old boyfriend [http://www.wyff4.com/news/deputies-woman-stabs-boyfriend-in-chest/25114464]
Woman stabs fiance for not wanting to drive drunk to the liquor store [http://www.wpbf.com/news/south-florida/treasure-coast-news/melissa-bopp-stabs-fianc-who-wouldnt-drive-her-to-liquor-store-police-say/24356214#!F09Zl]
Woman in 20s stabs 56 year old stranger after altercation [http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Woman-Stabs-Man-on-Metro-Platform-PD-233529331.html]
48 year old woman stabs 27 year old daughter in back [http://www.wbaltv.com/news/maryland/harford-county/police-aberdeen-woman-stabs-daughter-in-back/23817034]
30 year old woman stabs 42 year old man after verbal argument [http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24860624/woman-stabs-man-multiple-times-following-an-argument-in-the-nuuanu-area]
26 year old woman stabs bf after his dog eats her marijuana [http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2013/10/22/report-woman-stabs-boyfriend-after-his-dog-eats-her-marijuana/]
Woman stabs her child?s father after argument [http://www.theoaklandpress.com/general-news/20131231/deputies-pontiac-woman-stabs-childs-father-calls-authorities]
19 year old female stabs 18 year old male after argument [http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/holly-police-woman-stabs-man-during-argument/24475068]
48 year old woman stabs 53 year old husband and kills him [http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20140111/news/701119913/]
28 year old woman stabs 41 year old after her baby shower [http://newsone.com/2687401/julia-bol-stiletto-stabbing-nebraska/]
30 year old stabs 26 year old pregnant sister and law and kills both her and baby [http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/10/28/cops-woman-stabs-9-months-pregnant-sister-law]
Woman stabs cop during a traffic stop [http://www.muskogeephoenix.com/local/x787241067/Woman-stabs-area-officer-with-scissors]
24 year old stabs 28 year old brother over argument about household chores [http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/01/kenner_woman_stabs_brother_dur.html]
28 year old woman stabs 16 year old female in the face that she suspected was her boyfriend?s mistress [http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/albuquerque/woman-stabs-teens-face/22812902]
Woman stabs boyfriend 31 times after he says his ex?s name in his sleep [http://shanghaiist.com/2013/09/27/woman_stabs_boyfriend_31_times_after_he_says_womans_name_in_sleep.php]
28 year old woman stabs boyfriend after dispute about a camping trip [http://www.abqjournal.com/379686/abqnewsseeker/bcso-woman-stabs-boyfriend-with-grilling-fork.html]
33 year old woman stabs 42 year old husband in neck three times after petty argument [http://www.live5news.com/story/25039290/cops-woman-stabs-fiance-in-the-neck-three-times-during-argument]
49 year old stabs herself and blames ex-husband [http://www.fathers-4-justice.us/content/brooklyn-woman-stabs-herself-blames-ex-husband-0]
Woman stabs husband over television show characters [http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/506225-chinese-woman-stabs-husband-over-television-show-characters/]
Woman stabs 23 year old boyfriend after argument [http://www.ksat.com/news/sapd-woman-stabs-boyfriend-in-shoulder/24936830]
Woman stabs husband because he snored [http://newsfixnow.com/2013/10/15/woman-stabs-husband-because-of-snoring/]
19 year old female stabs and kills her 19 year old female cousin after argument [http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Woman-Stabs-18-Year-Old-Cousin-Police-235097651.html]
23 year old woman stabs family member after argument [http://www.mrt.com/news/crime/article_066ed94e-4c23-11e3-8c61-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=jqm]
Woman kills man for refusing to give her beer [http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Keys-Woman-Kills-Man-Who-Refused-to-Give-Her-Beer-Cops-164255176.html]
Woman stabs man for refusing to have sex with her, threatens to cry rape [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205067/Woman-stabbed-man-refused-sex-threatened-rape-went-hospital-treatment.html]
Woman rips off man?s testicle because he rejected her, tried to swallow it [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4253849.stm]
Woman kills man for refusing to marry her [http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH19080719.2.31.14]
Woman cuts off man?s penis because of argument [http://www.ibtimes.com/catherine-kieu-sentenced-california-woman-who-cut-husbands-penis-gets-7-years-life-prison-1328289]
Woman shoots her husband after argument [http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/22487331/2013/06/03/woman-charged-in-her-husbands-shooting-death]
Woman cuts off cheating boyfriend?s penis, flushes it [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/04/julia-munoz-huaman-cut-off-boyfriends-penis-flushed-toilet_n_1854924.html]
Woman suspects husband of cheating, stabs him to death [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/fla-woman-stabs-cheating-husband-death-article-1.1386046]
Woman shoots, kills boyfriend for cheating [http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Cops-Woman-shot-killed-boyfriend-in-Pine-Hills-over-cheating/16814162]
Woman stabs boyfriend for cheating in Monopoly board game [http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/assault/new-mexico-monopoly-stabbing-976532]
Woman shoots, kills man for ending relationship [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/24/us/24brfs-002.html]
Woman sets husband?s genitals on fire for hugging another woman, dies [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/australian-woman-accused-torching-husband-genitals-charged-murder-article-1.420833]
Woman kills, dismembers husband?s body over argument [http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/06/world/brazil-dismemberment/]
Mother kills 18-month old twins to get back at husband she thought was cheating [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151941/Stacey-Smalls-held-bail-murdering-twins-cheating-husband.html]
Woman kills husband after he confronts her about affair [http://www.complex.com/city-guide/2012/04/woman-gets-25-to-life-for-killing-husband-then-hiring-hitman-to-kill-her-lover]
Woman kills cheating husband with lethal dose of heroin [http://bc.ctvnews.ca/woman-killed-cheating-husband-with-overdose-of-heroin-1.576435]
Woman runs over, kills cheating husband [http://www.click2houston.com/news/Police-Wife-Runs-Over-Cheating-Husband/2871106]
Obese woman sits on boyfriend, kills him and avoids jail time [http://www.cbsnews.com/news/woman-kills-boyfriend-by-sitting-on-him-but-mia-landingham-isnt-going-to-jail/]
Woman kills boyfriend with stiletto shoe [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/tx-woman-found-guilty-killing-boyfriend-stiletto-heel-article-1.1749860]
Woman murders cheating husband with coffee mug [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/26/wife-kills-husband-coffee-cup_n_3815121.html]
Woman kills boyfriend for not buying her a gift [http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/05/pregnant_chicago_woman_kills_boyfriend_over_failure_to_buy_gift_1.html]
Woman kills boyfriend who accused her of cheating [http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2014/04/15/3057346/russell-county-sheriffs-office.html]
Woman stabs and kills boyfriend , Judge: ?I hope you die in prison? [http://www.kmov.com/video/yahoo-video/Judge-to--255634951.html]
Woman shoots, kills ex-boyfriend, buries him in pile of debris [http://www.nbc-2.com/story/24230991/lee-county-woman-gets-life-in-prison-for-killing-ex-boyfriend]
Woman shoots boyfriend in the back of the neck, killing him [http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/police-woman-shot-boyfriend-from-behind/article_6a94a7ad-51cf-5d97-8f7a-5b508206ef82.html]
Woman shoots boyfriend six times, kills him after argument [http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/25206075/northeast-jackson-woman-jailed-for-killing-boyfriend]
Woman stabs, kills boyfriend over mother?s day gift [http://www.kens5.com/news/151524285.html]
Woman stabs boyfriend to death, also stabbed her husband to death 7 years prior [http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_25268807/el-paso-woman-previously-convicted-common-law-husbands]
Woman pushes way into home, stabs boyfriend to death over argument [http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/woman-sentenced-to-seven-years-in-prison-for-killing-boyfriend/article_282b67d7-4a75-592e-b603-eb2c65d71428.html]
Woman angry at boyfriend takes her anger out on his 4 year-old [http://kfdm.com/shared/news/top-stories/stories/kfdm_police-woman-kills-boyfriends-4yearold-daughter-fit-anger-4200.shtml?wap=0]
Woman stabs boyfriend to death, thought he was cheating on her [http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/04/22/3148973/nampa-woman-to-serve-at-least.html]
Woman bludgeons husband to death with hammer to pay back loan [http://www.emirates247.com/news/woman-kills-hubby-to-repay-loan-from-ex-boyfriend-2014-04-09-1.544858]
Woman stabs, kills boyfriend during argument [http://www.mercurynews.com/peninsula/ci_25549887/east-palo-alto-woman-who-killed-boyfriend-steak]
Woman murders boyfriend for tweeting out his female crush [http://gossipplug.com/man-killed-by-girlfriend-after-tweeting-his-womancrushwednesday/]
Woman shoots and kills boyfriend, kills self while out on bail [http://www.wcti12.com/news/sheriffs-office-suspect-in-boyfriends-murder-found-dead/25518718]
Woman stabs to death boyfriend over argument about an ex [http://www.registercitizen.com/general-news/20140219/torrington-woman-accused-of-killing-her-boyfriend-in-jealous-rage-police-say]
Woman stabs and kills boyfriend for social media posts [http://timeli.info/item/631340/Huff_Post_Weird_News/Shardonnae_Pruitt__Chicago_Woman__Charged_With_Fatally_Stabbing_Boyfriend]
Woman shoots boyfriend in the face, fails to make it look like suicide [http://wnep.com/2014/04/02/woman-admits-shooting-boyfriend-in-the-face-killing-him/]
Woman kills boyfriend?s puppies during phone argument [http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/American-Bulldog-Puppies-Killed-Food-Cooler-Linden-New-Jersey-Woman-Arrested-226958931.html]
Woman shoots boyfriend in the face with rifle during argument [http://www.saratogian.com/general-news/20120702/victim-was-unarmed-at-the-time-of-fatal-schuylerville-shooting-prosecutors-say]
Woman pushes boyfriend off fence after argument, killing him [http://www.10news.com/news/san-diego-woman-who-killed-boyfriend-expected-to-be-sentenced-today-021914]
Woman attacks boyfriend with large knife, intent to kill [http://www.kfvs12.com/story/25630426/m/category/106766/radar-images]
Woman abused, threatens to kill boyfriend in sleep [http://helenair.com/news/local/woman-threatens-to-kill-boyfriend/article_33e6d76e-940d-11e3-91e0-0019bb2963f4.html]
Woman beats, murders boyfriend and puts him in freezer because he wanted to break up with her [http://nypost.com/2013/08/27/rejected-minn-woman-kills-boyfriend-hides-body-in-freezer/]
Woman held gun to boyfriend?s head, murders on Christmas [http://fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120619/GJNEWS_01/706199916]
Woman with previous assault charge on another boyfriend stabs and kills different boyfriend [http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/woman-pleads-guilty-to-killing-boyfriend/nW65R/]
Woman attempts to murder boyfriend with giant breasts [http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/26/franziska-hansen-attempted-murder-boyfriend-smother-dd-breasts_n_2190794.html]
Woman stabs boyfriend in neck, killing him after argument [http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/local/crime/woman-gets-years-for-plunging-knife-into-boyfriend-s-neck/article_25c72cb4-3815-11e3-9c76-0019bb30f31a.html]
Woman chokes and stabs ex-boyfriends cat to death [http://calcoastnews.com/2014/01/santa-maria-woman-arrested-killing-ex-boyfriends-cat/]
Woman starts argument with boyfriend, stabs and kills with umbrella [http://www.enca.com/south-africa/woman-kills-boyfriend-umbrella]
Woman kills boyfriend with her car after argument [http://cjonline.com/news/2012-09-19/woman-accused-using-car-kill-boyfriend]
Woman shoots, kills boyfriend in his bathroom [http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/woman-accused-killing-boyfriend-makes-first-court-/nJQSS/]
Woman shoots, kills boyfriend with illegal handgun [http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/19634275/2012/09/25/deputies-charge-woman-in-domestic-murder]
Woman sets her boyfriend on fire, killing him [http://elitedaily.com/news/world/woman-kills-boyfriend-setting-fire-slept/]
Woman shoots and kills ex-boyfriend multiple times, kills herself [http://www.examiner.com/article/edris-msundastood-dickson-murder-suicide]
Woman shoots boyfriend in the head, found out he was dating other women [http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/20131207/anchorage-woman-charged-boyfriends-fatal-shooting]
Woman stabs and kills boyfriend over finances [http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20100813/ARTICLES/308139998]
Woman stabs and kills boyfriend?s lizard because she thought he was flirting with other women [http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/heartsick-san-carlos-woman-kills-boyfriends-pet-lizard-allegedly-threatens-suicide/Content?oid=2179731]
Woman shoots, kills boyfriend who wanted to end their relationship and urged her to get an abortion [http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/judge-lets-pull-back-guilty-plea-slaying-article-1.500266]
Woman attempts to murder husband with poison in her vagina [http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/29/vagina-murder-plot-brazilian-man-wife-poisoning-_n_2572836.html?utm_hp_ref=uk]
Woman stabs boyfriend to death after he slaps daughter [http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-03-07/news/1995066110_1_kogan-gordon-stabbing]
Woman conspires to have secret lover murder her husband [http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-28/wife-jailed-for-conspiring-to-kill-husband/3699134]
Woman stabs, kills boyfriend over argument on Labor Day [http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57997809-78/nguyen-child-witnesses-stabbing.html.csp?page=1]
Woman stabs boyfriend in the chest over argument [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/woman-won-ochocinco-show-stabbed-boyfriend-police-article-1.1810700]
Woman stabs boyfriend to death after finding photos of other women on cell phone [http://www.pjstar.com/x1456178748/Woman-indicted-in-stabbing-death-of-her-boyfriend]
Woman tortured ex-boyfriend?s dog until it died after argument [http://www.nbc15.com/news/state/headlines/Woman-accused-of-strangling-boyfriends-dog-232054331.html]
Woman stabs boyfriend in his chest and through his lung, nearly killing him [http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/woman-convicted-attempted-murder-boyfriend-stabbing-article-1.1524639]
Woman fatally stabs boyfriend during heated argument [http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/09/12/worcester_woman_pleads_guilty_to_killing_boyfriend/]
Woman kills her boyfriend with blunt force trauma to the head using frying pan [http://abc30.com/archive/8781340/]
Woman stabs boyfriend to death for drinking her beer [http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2008-08-08/news/0808071113_1_boyfriend-beer-stabbing]
Woman strangles boyfriend to death during argument [http://www.latimes.com/wxin-woman-strangled-boyfriend-police-woman-strangled-boyfriend-to-death-during-argument-20111028-column.html]
Woman stabs boyfriend with serrated knife over argument [http://articles.philly.com/2003-09-30/news/25458352_1_steak-knife-boardinghouse-norristown-woman]
Woman shoots, murders boyfriend while she was on house arrest for another murder 11 years prior [http://www.fox19.com/story/19448302/deputies-woman-kills-boyfriend-on-home-detention-for-murder-read-more-httpwwwwyff4comnewslocal-newsspartanburg-cherokee-newsdeputies-woman-kills]
Woman stabs, kills boyfriend then texts friend about eating the body [http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/tamie-melehan-stabbed-boyfriend-david-vaughan-and-sent-text-message-that-she-was-going-to-eat-the-body/story-e6freuzi-1225843849086]
Woman stabs, kills boyfriend over dispute [http://www.ocregister.com/articles/castillo-341590-foster-time.html]
Woman shoots boyfriend in the head, suspecting he was cheating [http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-01-23/news/fl-sunrise-attempted-murder-20130123_1_boyfriend-sunrise-police-report-broward-health-medical-center]
Woman shoots man in the groin after argument [http://www.myfoxal.com/story/19628629/man-sent-to-the-hospital-after-girlfriend-shoots-him-in-the-groin]
Woman fires handgun into the home of man who denied her a kiss [http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/florida/woman-92-goes-ballistic-after-being-denied-kiss-874093]
Woman stabs husband to death over cheating fears [http://nypost.com/2013/10/03/wife-stabs-husband-to-death-over-cheating-fears-police/]
Woman shoots, kills ex-boyfriend and his new girlfriend [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/woman-kills-new-girlfriend-committing-suicide-cops-article-1.1787967]
Women kills husband, commits suicide [http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Woman-kills-husband-then-commits-suicide-5106696.php]
Woman shoots and kills man over argument [http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/10/15/detroit-woman-charged-with-boyfriends-murder/]
Woman kills husband with baseball bat for talking back to her [http://iactafool.com/80-year-old-woman-kills-husband-for-talking-smart/]
Woman kills husband, confesses to family then shoots herself [http://www.click2houston.com/news/hpd-wife-kills-huband-kills-herself-in-relatives-home/23723970]
Woman stabs boyfriend 31 times after he said ex?s name in his sleep [http://shanghaiist.com/2013/09/27/woman_stabs_boyfriend_31_times_after_he_says_womans_name_in_sleep.php]
Woman shoots husband in the head, shoots herself [http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/01/metairie_woman_kills_husband_f.html]
Woman kills boyfriend over argument at house party [http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_21830489/police-stockton-woman-kills-boyfriend-at-san-jose]
Woman shoots boyfriend with shotgun for texting another woman [http://www.goupstate.com/article/20130521/ARTICLES/130529929]
Woman kills boyfriend because she ?smelled sex on him? [http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/05/pennsylvania-woman-killed-boyfriend-after-smelled-sex-on-him-prosecutor-says/]
Woman runs over boyfriend, kills him [http://www.kansas.com/2013/03/26/2733932/woman-sentenced-to-prison-for.html]
Woman stabs boyfriend in the eye for turning down threesome [http://gawker.com/florida-woman-stabs-boyfriend-in-the-eye-for-turning-do-1443119495]
Woman stabs ex-boyfriend for refusing to stop playing the Eagles [http://gawker.com/woman-stabs-roommate-for-refusing-to-stop-listening-to-1335462841]
Woman stabs boyfriend, throws out his prosthetic legs so he can?t chase her [http://www.complex.com/city-guide/2013/03/south-carolina-woman-stabs-boyfriend-throws-out-prosthetic-legs-so-he-cant-chase-her]
Woman ties up, stabs husband 193 times, jury finds her guilty for suspicion of trying to claim life insurance [http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=127995]
Woman stabs fiance for refusing to take her to the liquor store [http://blog.chron.com/hottopics/2014/02/police-florida-woman-stabs-fiance-after-he-rejects-liquor-store-trip/]
Woman assaults and threatens boyfriend with knife for not cuddling [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2548417/Florida-woman-pulled-knife-boyfriend-refused-CUDDLE-not-face-criminal-charges.html]
Woman stabs man with ceramic squirrel for not bring home beer [http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php?p=15644161]
Woman stabs taxi driver after he refuses to have sex with her [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2600488/Sex-crazed-Angelina-Jolie-lookalike-given-suspended-sentence-forcing-taxi-driver-sex-twice-stabbing-not-manage-time.html]
Woman stabs ex-boyfriend in his penis after discovering he had a new girlfriend [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1277118/Jilted-lover-stabbed-ex-lover-manhood-drove-home.html]
Woman stabs boyfriend twice over time he spent in bathroom [http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2011/may/22/immokalee-woman-stabs-boyfriend-twice-over-his-tim/?partner=popular]
Woman stabs boyfriend over Facebook post [http://www.examiner.com/article/texas-woman-stabs-husband-over-something-she-read-on-facebooks-drugs-involved]
Woman stabs her boyfriend several times because his dog ate her marijuana stash [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2473153/Shadae-Scott-Model-stabbed-boyfriend-dog-ate-stash-marijuana.html]
Woman stabs boyfriend for not calling her every two hours [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2505127/Rhiann-Burnie-21-stabbed-boyfriend-ringing-hours.html]
Woman shoots man five times for rejecting her, kills herself [http://archive.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=53403]
Woman murders ex-boyfriend with liquor laced with poison, was jealous he was engaged to new woman [http://abcnews.go.com/2020/jealous-woman-20-years-jagermeister-murder/story?id=19546701]
Florida woman shoots, kills her 2 teenage sons [http://guardianlv.com/2014/05/florida-woman-allegedly-kills-her-teenage-children-because-they-were-really-mean/]
Mother throws 1 year-old daughter under truck, kills her [http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/04/30/chinese-woman-throws-baby-under-moving-truck-kills-daughter-hu-chen/]
California mom stabs her 3 daughters to death. all under 2 years old [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/3-girls-found-dead-calif-home-mom-arrested-cops-article-1.1800154]
Mother attempts to kill her 3 teenage children [http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/25266213/mother-charged-with-trying-to-kill-her-three-teenagers]
Mother kills her infant son by stabbing him to death [http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Livermore-Woman-Accused-of-Killing-Child-at-Park-256858241.html]
Woman kills 2 year-old girl, attempts to kill 10 year-old boy [http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/jupiter-woman-kills-exdomestic-partners2yearold-daughter-attempted-murdersuicide-16264.shtml?wap=0&?hot=1]
Utah mom murders 6 newborns, keeps them in garage [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/utah-mom-killed-newborns-couldn-remember-dead-babies-garage-police-article-1.1777762]
Mother charged with trying to suffocate daughter [http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/04/29/mother-charged-with-trying-to-suffocate-daughter/]
Woman charged for killing 8-month old baby [http://www.thenewstribune.com/2014/04/30/3173379/tacoma-woman-charged-in-death.html]
Mother drowns both of her sons aged 3 and 6 [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/child-left-brain-dead-mom-drowning-attempt-dies-article-1.1747035]
Mother attempts to drown her 3 children in ocean [http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/07/kids-rescued-from-ocean-said-mom-tried-to-killed-us-sc-woman-charged-with/]
Utah mother shoots and kills two teen daughters, then herself [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/utah-mom-shoots-kills-young-daughters-article-1.1581034]
Mother suffocates 14 month old son, fails at attempted suicide [http://fox6now.com/2014/03/11/woman-charged-following-death-of-14-month-old-son/]
Woman babysitter murders 19 month old boy [http://www.wfsb.com/story/24589635/parents-of-baby-allegedly-killed-by-babysitter-arrested]
Mom kills 7 month old daughter, blames Jesus [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/10/stefany-paige-johnson_n_4937447.html]
Woman operating illegal daycare responsible for 3 month old girl?s death, police find 14 children in her basement [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/11/pamela-wood-baby-death-daycare_n_4943063.html]
Mom strangles 3 day old baby boy, discarded body in trashcan [http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Mom-said-she-strangled-newborn-watched-him-die-5144862.php]
Woman suffocates 2 year old girl of fiance, fakes sexual assault by unknown assailant to cover tracks [http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Plano-Police-Make-Arrest-in-2-Year-Olds-Death-242496231.html]
Mother charged with killing 2 year-old daughter [http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/06/nyregion/woman-is-charged-in-killing-of-daughter-2.html?_r=0]
Mother of several children with history of violence murdered and buried 2 year-old daughter in shallow grave [http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/seminole-county/sanford-police-arrest-rachel-fryer-for-homicide-in-death-of-buried-toddler-taraji-gordon/24697228]
Mother stabs and kills her 2 children in exorcism [http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/19/justice/maryland-exorcism-deaths/]
Mother kills her teen son and daughter, self [http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/15/us/florida-mother-double-murder-suicide/]
Mother confesses to killing 10 year-old son [http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2014/01/frisco-police-take-custody-of-mother-in-connection-with-10-year-olds-death.html/]
Mother tortures and kills 3 year-old son, burned genitals with lighter [http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/01/24/autopsy-released-of-3-year-old-found-dead-in-mothers-home/]
Most child abuse, neglect, and murders are committed by females [http://archive.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm09/cm09.pdf]

Wow, almost like violence is not so much a gendered issue and is more of a human issue. Maybe instead of using tragedies to push an agenda and demonize an entire gender, we should focus on the real problem of violence as a whole.

 

[BoldBaldBastard]

Holy Cow, Areani! There sure are some really sick stories in those links.

Getting shot for not giving beer to a hag?
Getting crushed by an obese woman?
Getting dismembered for sake of argument?

You sure got some crazy people on this planet.

EDIT: BTW, I would blame Jesus too.. Sounds like a viable scapegoat.

 

[Ramzal]

Pretty much Areani's post there. It's not as if women are the only ones who are murdered and assaulted and we should probably stop acting like it.

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

Why is even a mention of the difficulties women experience equated with bigotry against men? No one is asking you to apologise for your gender. They're just saying to be mindful with how women experience the world when interacting with them.

I may have been slightly drunk when I wrote that, and I spend too much time on tumblr so I get to see the laughable levels of finger-pointing so it kinda exploded into a strange point, so I apologise. And, for the most part, people are fairly mindful [well, at least me and the people I know, I would say for the most part], it's just that, yes these things happen to women, but it happens to men as well, and there is barely any awareness of that, given that most violent crime happens to men.

Also, slightly off topic but I don't like the way these stories are reported, if a man murders a woman, it'll focus on the perpetrator ad the victim, whereas if a man is the victim, no mention of the perpetrator, only the victim.
I guess I'd just like it if men weren't seen as this massive threat to public safety. Some men do terrible things, but the frequency of such things gets a tad blown-out of proportion.

That said, I should probably say that what happened in the original article is awful and should never happen, obviously. Neglecting that kiiinda made me seem like a prick.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Wow, almost like violence is not so much a gendered issue and is more of a human issue. Maybe instead of using tragedies to push an agenda and demonize an entire gender, we should focus on the real problem of violence as a whole.

The fact that men are murdered by women does not mean gender does not play a part in murder. Most murderers are still men. Women are much more likely to be murdered or assaulted by their BF/husband that the other way around.

Yes, what you have there is proof that it's not true that women never murder or assault men. I don't recall anyone saying that outside of strawmen.

 

[Gorrath]

Well, any group will tend to look back if you focus on every bad thing that they do. Shit, you could make my local church group look like psychopaths if you homed in on the right stuff.
I'm getting bored of this pressure from people, acting as if though I should apologise for my gender.

Why is even a mention of the difficulties women experience equated with bigotry against men? No one is asking you to apologise for your gender. They're just saying to be mindful with how women experience the world when interacting with them.

Is it not more fair to say everyone should be mindful of how everyone else's experience differs from their own? Why should it be the case that women's perspective (which itself makes it seem like women are a homogeneous group with the same shared experiences) should receive special consideration? I think the world would be a better place if people were more empathetic in general. I've argued this before, but I think it is important for us to understand that these issues affect everyone, no matter their gender. Our focus should be, I think, on helping victims and rehabilitating criminals no matter the genders of the people involved.

 

[CaptainChip]

That conclusion is pretty terrible when you consider the fact that men usually make up about 70 to 80 percent of homicide victims worldwide...

I think the question is 'who is killing all those men'?

Answer? Mostly men. (99% of murderers in the US(2010) were male, a quick google search says.)
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl03.xls

This forum looks pretty full so probably someone's already said something similar ages ago...

Good for them. I'm not talking about the killers. I'm talking solely about the victims.

 

[Gorrath]

Wow, almost like violence is not so much a gendered issue and is more of a human issue. Maybe instead of using tragedies to push an agenda and demonize an entire gender, we should focus on the real problem of violence as a whole.

The fact that men are murdered by women does not mean gender does not play a part in murder. Most murderers are still men. Women are much more likely to be murdered or assaulted by their BF/husband that the other way around.

Yes, what you have there is proof that it's not true that women never murder or assault men. I don't recall anyone saying that outside of strawmen.

I have read wildly different statistics on the second issue you mention. Some sources claim that 85% of domestic violence is committed by men against women while other sources indicate a much closer 55-45 split. It's exceedingly difficult to get real numbers because women often do not report domestic violence and men even less so. The only point of agreement I've seen across sources is that few people report the problem and that men are less likely to be taken seriously, more likely to be arrested and charged. I guess I'm just saying I can't agree with your second statement because there seems to be serious issues with data collection and a high level of sexist bias against men when it comes to domestic violence issues. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just asking how do you know?

 

[Thaluikhain]

I have read wildly different statistics on the second issue you mention. Some sources claim that 85% of domestic violence is committed by men against women while other sources indicate a much closer 55-45 split. It's exceedingly difficult to get real numbers because women often do not report domestic violence and men even less so. The only point of agreement I've seen across sources is that few people report the problem and that men are less likely to be taken seriously, more likely to be arrested and charged. I guess I'm just saying I can't agree with your second statement because there seems to be serious issues with data collection and a high level of sexist bias against men when it comes to domestic violence issues. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just asking how do you know?

That's fair enough in relation to violence in general, there is definitely a problem with reporting there.

However, you'd agree that that's not the case with murder, though? The victim's unwillingness to report is no longer an issue. In Australia, for example, women are something like 70% of the victims of domestic violence murders. Not saying we should extrapolate that to assault, or violence in general, but that's a big difference.

Also, slightly off topic but I don't like the way these stories are reported, if a man murders a woman, it'll focus on the perpetrator ad the victim, whereas if a man is the victim, no mention of the perpetrator, only the victim.

Do you mean when a man is murdered by a woman, or murdered in general?

 

[Dragonmouth]

Why is even a mention of the difficulties women experience equated with bigotry against men? No one is asking you to apologise for your gender. They're just saying to be mindful with how women experience the world when interacting with them.

I may have been slightly drunk when I wrote that, and I spend too much time on tumblr so I get to see the laughable levels of finger-pointing so it kinda exploded into a strange point, so I apologise. And, for the most part, people are fairly mindful [well, at least me and the people I know, I would say for the most part], it's just that, yes these things happen to women, but it happens to men as well, and there is barely any awareness of that, given that most violent crime happens to men.

Also, slightly off topic but I don't like the way these stories are reported, if a man murders a woman, it'll focus on the perpetrator ad the victim, whereas if a man is the victim, no mention of the perpetrator, only the victim.
I guess I'd just like it if men weren't seen as this massive threat to public safety. Some men do terrible things, but the frequency of such things gets a tad blown-out of proportion.

That said, I should probably say that what happened in the original article is awful and should never happen, obviously. Neglecting that kiiinda made me seem like a prick.

I don't think it's true that male perpetrators of violence get more coverage than female. Ever heard of Jodi Arias or Lorena Bobbitt?

 

[Schadrach]

I'd like to point out that your counter example isn't 'per year' - 7 percent are colorblind, they will be for life. And next year, it'll still be 7 percent.

3 percent *per year* stacks up. After 10 years its already a third of the population - and that's not assuming that your numbers are thrown off by women who don't report due to self blaming, threats, etc.

You made a massive error in the other direction -- you're assuming that if someone is abused, they'll only be abused during that one year and never again. The thing is, domestic abuse tends to be long term, and people who've been in abusive relationships have a bad habit of ending up in other abusive relationships.

 

[Dragonmouth]

Well, any group will tend to look back if you focus on every bad thing that they do. Shit, you could make my local church group look like psychopaths if you homed in on the right stuff.
I'm getting bored of this pressure from people, acting as if though I should apologise for my gender.

Why is even a mention of the difficulties women experience equated with bigotry against men? No one is asking you to apologise for your gender. They're just saying to be mindful with how women experience the world when interacting with them.

Is it not more fair to say everyone should be mindful of how everyone else's experience differs from their own? Why should it be the case that women's perspective (which itself makes it seem like women are a homogeneous group with the same shared experiences) should receive special consideration? I think the world would be a better place if people were more empathetic in general. I've argued this before, but I think it is important for us to understand that these issues affect everyone, no matter their gender. Our focus should be, I think, on helping victims and rehabilitating criminals no matter the genders of the people involved.

In the abstract, I agree with you. However, that doesn't mean discussions of a specific type of inequality (against women, non-white people, etc) should be derailed into a discussion of inequality in general. Doing so erases the fact that some people are more marginalized than others.

 

[Gorrath]

I have read wildly different statistics on the second issue you mention. Some sources claim that 85% of domestic violence is committed by men against women while other sources indicate a much closer 55-45 split. It's exceedingly difficult to get real numbers because women often do not report domestic violence and men even less so. The only point of agreement I've seen across sources is that few people report the problem and that men are less likely to be taken seriously, more likely to be arrested and charged. I guess I'm just saying I can't agree with your second statement because there seems to be serious issues with data collection and a high level of sexist bias against men when it comes to domestic violence issues. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just asking how do you know?

That's fair enough in relation to violence in general, there is definitely a problem with reporting there.

However, you'd agree that that's not the case with murder, though? The victim's unwillingness to report is no longer an issue. In Australia, for example, women are something like 70% of the victims of domestic violence murders. Not saying we should extrapolate that to assault, or violence in general, but that's a big difference.

Oh no doubt, I was speaking specifically about domestic violence in general. Murder rates are a different animal which have their own roots and causes, some of which are related to domestic violence specifically and some which differ. I was merely pointing out that it might be unfair to claim that women are disproportionately affected by domestic violence, since the data there varies wildly and cannot be considered concrete due to the issues I mentioned. I don't think it's fair to paint domestic violence as an issue of men hurting women (which it often is) when it may be the case that men and women both suffer from it. We've done a bad job of dealing with domestic violence in general, but I don't think the issue is helped properly when we make it a gendered one.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Oh no doubt, I was speaking specifically about domestic violence in general. Murder rates are a different animal which have their own roots and causes, some of which are related to domestic violence specifically and some which differ. I was merely pointing out that it might be unfair to claim that women are disproportionately affected by domestic violence, since the data there varies wildly and cannot be considered concrete due to the issues I mentioned. I don't think it's fair to paint domestic violence as an issue of men hurting women (which it often is) when it may be the case that men and women both suffer from it. We've done a bad job of dealing with domestic violence in general, but I don't think the issue is helped properly when we make it a gendered one.

I don't see how it is being made a gender issue. When different genders are involved, gender issues will be present. When a problem affects one gender more than another, or to a greater extent, then it is a gendered problem. Like you say, men are less likely to report domestic violence, and less likely to be taken seriously if they do. That, in of itself, means it is a gendered problem. Acknowledging that a problem is gendered is not the same as making it gendered.