Weak men, strong women and rope don't exist?Random berk said:In the case of a fully grown man, its impossible without the use of a cocktail of drugs...
Weak men, strong women and rope don't exist?Random berk said:In the case of a fully grown man, its impossible without the use of a cocktail of drugs...
"N-"manythings said:I don't think anyone has said "Nice!" or posted the a south park youtube yet. There is no double standard, this shit is fucked up and we all think that.The Rookie Gamer said:I'm talking about the posters on the Escapist with double standards.manythings said:In jail being held with the option of bail? I think they are taking it pretty seriously. I'm just thinking about how fucked this is going to be for her kids... Imagine that shit tomorrow morning on the playground.The Rookie Gamer said:This.TheAmazingHobo said:Pretty sure we alread had a thread about this, but might be mistaken.
Also: still wrong, still not funny, still not "awesome for the dude".
The double standards people have for this stuff is ridiculous. If it was a man and a 13 year old girl, people would be calling him a sick pedophile, but for a woman and a boy, there going to act like it's no big deal.
Thats another way of doing it, but I was kind o including that in the 'cocktail of drugs' scenario, since even then she'd still need a little blue pill to proceed from assault to rape. So I guess I should say its almost impossible, certainly harder than for a man to rape someone anyway.Critical_Sneeze said:Weak men, strong women and rope don't exist?Random berk said:In the case of a fully grown man, its impossible without the use of a cocktail of drugs...
I'm just not following where drugs come into this.Random berk said:Thats another way of doing it, but I was kind o including that in the 'cocktail of drugs' scenario, since even then she'd still need a little blue pill to proceed from assault to rape. So I guess I should say its almost impossible, certainly harder than for a man to rape someone anyway.Critical_Sneeze said:Weak men, strong women and rope don't exist?Random berk said:In the case of a fully grown man, its impossible without the use of a cocktail of drugs...
Drugs as in using some sort of tranquiliser in place of brute force, so that the guy wakes up tied to the bed, and the the blue pill is... well, you get the idea.Critical_Sneeze said:I'm just not following where drugs come into this.Random berk said:Thats another way of doing it, but I was kind o including that in the 'cocktail of drugs' scenario, since even then she'd still need a little blue pill to proceed from assault to rape. So I guess I should say its almost impossible, certainly harder than for a man to rape someone anyway.Critical_Sneeze said:Weak men, strong women and rope don't exist?Random berk said:In the case of a fully grown man, its impossible without the use of a cocktail of drugs...
Alcohol is an effective enough tranquiliser. And you surely don't think that an erection = consent.Random berk said:Drugs as in using some sort of tranquiliser in place of brute force, so that the guy wakes up tied to the bed, and the the blue pill is... well, you get the idea.Critical_Sneeze said:I'm just not following where drugs come into this.Random berk said:Thats another way of doing it, but I was kind o including that in the 'cocktail of drugs' scenario, since even then she'd still need a little blue pill to proceed from assault to rape. So I guess I should say its almost impossible, certainly harder than for a man to rape someone anyway.Critical_Sneeze said:Weak men, strong women and rope don't exist?Random berk said:In the case of a fully grown man, its impossible without the use of a cocktail of drugs...
No I don't, but woman can't really rape a man unless he has an erection. I suppose she could do other stuff, but I think rape in this context would mean forced penetrative sex, for which she would have to give the man an erection. Thats what the pill would be for, since presumably he wouldn't get an erection properly if he really, really didn't want sex.Critical_Sneeze said:Alcohol is an effective enough tranquiliser. And you surely don't think that an erection = consent.Random berk said:Drugs as in using some sort of tranquiliser in place of brute force, so that the guy wakes up tied to the bed, and the the blue pill is... well, you get the idea.Critical_Sneeze said:I'm just not following where drugs come into this.Random berk said:Thats another way of doing it, but I was kind o including that in the 'cocktail of drugs' scenario, since even then she'd still need a little blue pill to proceed from assault to rape. So I guess I should say its almost impossible, certainly harder than for a man to rape someone anyway.Critical_Sneeze said:Weak men, strong women and rope don't exist?Random berk said:In the case of a fully grown man, its impossible without the use of a cocktail of drugs...
Dangerous reasoning. By the same train of thought, as long as a rapist makes a girl climax, it isn't rape.Random berk said:No I don't, but woman can't really rape a man unless he has an erection. I suppose she could do other stuff, but I think rape in this context would mean forced penetrative sex, for which she would have to give the man an erection. Thats what the pill would be for, since presumably he wouldn't get an erection properly if he really, really didn't want sex.Critical_Sneeze said:Alcohol is an effective enough tranquiliser. And you surely don't think that an erection = consent.Random berk said:Drugs as in using some sort of tranquiliser in place of brute force, so that the guy wakes up tied to the bed, and the the blue pill is... well, you get the idea.Critical_Sneeze said:I'm just not following where drugs come into this.Random berk said:Thats another way of doing it, but I was kind o including that in the 'cocktail of drugs' scenario, since even then she'd still need a little blue pill to proceed from assault to rape. So I guess I should say its almost impossible, certainly harder than for a man to rape someone anyway.Critical_Sneeze said:Weak men, strong women and rope don't exist?Random berk said:In the case of a fully grown man, its impossible without the use of a cocktail of drugs...
I don't think so. What I mean is, the woman can't physically have penetrative sex with the man if he doesn't want it. Without giving him a chemical stimulant, that is. A man on the other hand, can have penetrative sex with a woman against her will. Whether the victim climaxes in either situation is completely irrelevant.Critical_Sneeze said:Dangerous reasoning. By the same train of thought, as long as a rapist makes a girl climax, it isn't rape.Random berk said:No I don't, but woman can't really rape a man unless he has an erection. I suppose she could do other stuff, but I think rape in this context would mean forced penetrative sex, for which she would have to give the man an erection. Thats what the pill would be for, since presumably he wouldn't get an erection properly if he really, really didn't want sex.Critical_Sneeze said:Alcohol is an effective enough tranquiliser. And you surely don't think that an erection = consent.Random berk said:Drugs as in using some sort of tranquiliser in place of brute force, so that the guy wakes up tied to the bed, and the the blue pill is... well, you get the idea.Critical_Sneeze said:I'm just not following where drugs come into this.Random berk said:Thats another way of doing it, but I was kind o including that in the 'cocktail of drugs' scenario, since even then she'd still need a little blue pill to proceed from assault to rape. So I guess I should say its almost impossible, certainly harder than for a man to rape someone anyway.Critical_Sneeze said:Weak men, strong women and rope don't exist?Random berk said:In the case of a fully grown man, its impossible without the use of a cocktail of drugs...
To this I'm asking, why not? Guys can be really drunk.Random berk said:I don't think so. What I mean is, the woman can't physically have penetrative sex with the man if he doesn't want it.
I agree with you there.Random berk said:But I digress. The overall point I was making is that the woman was still wrong, but in the thirteen year old's case, I don't think he was forced to have sex against his will, and I doubt he will suffer any legal or psychological consequences from this incident.
Critical_Sneeze said:To this I'm asking, why not? Guys can be really drunk.Random berk said:I don't think so. What I mean is, the woman can't physically have penetrative sex with the man if he doesn't want it.
Ah, but there's a difference between a girl forcing a man to have sex using viagra and ropes, and some drunken idiot waking up in bed with some girl he doesn't know with no recollection of how he got there. Odds are if they're drunk, then they'll consent, even if its not one of their better judgement calls. If they are so drunk that they can't do anything to resist the advances of whoever might be taking them to bed, then they aren't going to be any use to a woman anyway. They'd basically be passed out at that stage.
Yeah, I just thought it said rape somewhere.Random berk said:katsumoto03 said:Pedophilia and rape? Damn, that's one sick fucking woman.
This was pedophilia, due to the ages of both people involved, but it can't really be called rape. Not that I'm defending the woman, pedophilia alone is well worth the jail sentence, but rape implies the child was forced to have sex. Its pretty damned hard for a woman to force a man, even a younger man to have sex, and if I remember what early puberty was like, I doubt the kid needed convining, or if he even cared that she was much older than him. He'd probably have beenhappy enough once she had two legs and a vagina. Hell, he wasn't even negatively affected by this. His friends will most likely commend him for geting laid, being kids themselves, the article would have mentioned if she'd been infected with something, and if he impregnated her, I seriously doubt he'll have to share responsibility for it.
Also, it is probably for these reasons that when a woman manages to 'rape' a man (or boy) the courts tend not to take it as seriously. In the case of a fully grown man, its impossible without the use of a cocktail of drugs, and in the case of a boy, its pedophilia, but not forcible rape.
Again, I'm not condoning what she did at all, merely offering what I feel is a detached and logical view of the matter.
Do you find getting shot in the stomach or knees sexually stimulating?HG131 said:Actually, men will automatically get erections from sexual stimulation even if they don't want to. So a bullet to the gut or knee is all that's needed.
Huh. I would have thought it was possible to resist it under certain circumstances.HG131 said:That's so they don't fight. After that, any sexual stimulation will cause an erection, even if it's unwanted.Random berk said:Do you find getting shot in the stomach or knees sexually stimulating?HG131 said:Actually, men will automatically get erections from sexual stimulation even if they don't want to. So a bullet to the gut or knee is all that's needed.