Woman Seduces Teen She Met on Xbox Live, Gets Busted

[Baresark]

EDIT: Also I agree with the above user, I feel sorry for the kids and the crap they're going to have to deal with from this.

I want to say I can sympathise with these kids, but I really could never even begin to imagine, for all my psychology teachings, how that kind of thing would affect them. Some people just become hardened to it, and in that lies great danger, whilst others become very emotionally injured by being associated with that kind of thing, and become ostracised. Neither of these is even near optimal, to say the least.

And lets not forget that the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree, so to speak, and if the woman is victimising other children, it is entirely in the realm of possibility that she may be victimising her own children as well.

Not that I'm siding with her, but I can't help but play devils advocate on stuff like this. The thing is this, all kids are not created equal. There are socio-biological blocks in place that are there to prevent people from committing incest. People look at kids and assume that one child is equal or the same as another child to everyone. This is not true. When it comes down to it, there is nothing preventing an attraction to another person regardless of age. But lots preventing an attraction of her to her kids. I just don't think people should be so quick to assume she has "victimized" her kids. I may eat my words, but I doubt it.

Historically, this has been going on for thousands of years. There are countries all over the world that still practice the tradition of marrying a female child under the age of puberty to an adult male. They even admit to having sex with said child before they enter puberty. I don't agree with it, but it is just a fact of life that this happens. The one major difference from our culture to their cultures seem to be that they are raised to believe that is ok, so they do. We are raised to think that it is wrong, so we do. The main mistake she seems to have made is she is clearly living in the wrong culture. I guess my point is this, it's not unnatural to feel the way she did, it's just no socially acceptable. I have never had sex with anyone under aged, but that doesn't mean I don't see fifteen or sixteen year old girls who are "hot".

If I had to bet money, I would put it on him not feeling bad about it at all or feeling victimized, until everyone starts telling him he should.

On the other hand, I could be wrong. It was still fun to put it all out there.

Edit: After re-reading your comments, I just realized you were talking about her kids, I kinda feel dumb, but I don't want to erase what I have said.

 

[Canid117]

If the woman was Canadian then it would be just like the 2009 version of this story. Or was that the 2008 version? It is always hard to keep track.

 

[Treblaine]

Achievement unlocked: Cougar Hunter

Yeah, I know it's inappropriate but you have to admit this same situation but a gender reversal would have been WAY worse. I don't think this kid is going to have much psychological damage (at least until the lawyers start cross examining him)

I see where you´re coming from.

But let´s look at this whole "Manipulating" business.

Marketers manipulate people to feel and think things all the time. But that´s not "statutory mind rape" because of it. They manipulate people into wasting their money, but they´re not charged because of it. Hell, someone has probably been mentally and physically injured because of wasting their money because of marketers. But it´s not their fault that the person made the wrong descision.

OK commercialism seems to be a bit off, how about manipulating in adult relationships.

Isn't it a kind of statutory rape to lie to ANY woman to have sex with her? Regardless of whether it is easier or harder, IQ disparity in relationships can be huge even within adulthood, and can be the source of very destructive relationships. Maybe not illegal, but it sure isn't right.

I don't know, females, men too; how does it sound to make it illegal to lie to gain someone's sexual affection?

Should adulatory be illegal too? It is certainly harmful and manipulative enough.

I'm not saying the law should mandate similar IQ in partnerships nor that current age related statutory rape laws should be made legal, just that people should get some perspective. Statutory rape cannot be treated the same as violent rape, not when manipulative adult relationships are so completely legal. I think an important step is to take the word "rape" out of the offence that is such a loaded term and I don't think it is appropriate for the victim.

We need to also keep perspective on the child here, this boy may not have though anything wrong had happened, now this woman is in jail, what if he blames himself? What if BECAUSE OF this legal action it completely fucks up his developing sexuality, making him neurotic and dysfunctional over all future relationships.

I mean Clint Eastwood and Bruce Willis are among the personalities who lost their virginity at 14, they seem to have turned out all right (http://celebrities.ninemsn.com/blog.aspx?blogentryid=37004&showcomments=true). I wonder how this kid will fare after a lengthy trial?

 

[Treblaine]

So that's why she has 3 kids...

This line of thinking terrifies me on many levels, for many reasons. It is a sort of thought that cannot be unthunk, and troubles deeply.

I ... just. Yaaaaah.

Poor kids

Would you be as equally disturbed if a Widowed man in his 50's dated a 30 year old?

His girlfriend may be the same age as his daughter but would that also make you think:

"OH MY GOD! He's been growing his own potential rape victims!"
or
"if he's dating a 30 year old woman, he must also be raping his 30 year old daughter!"

Because that would be ridiculous. You seem to act as if incest repulsion is part-and-parcel with repulsion over age disparity.

I mean no one ever says: "how could you have a relationship with that woman, she's old enough to be your sister!"

 

[Astoria]

Eww...just eww. Though did she actually rape him or did he agree? If it actually was rape that just makes it ten times worse.

 

[TheAmazingHobo]

Pretty sure we alread had a thread about this, but might be mistaken.

Also: still wrong, still not funny, still not "awesome for the dude".

your obviously not a 13 year old boy are you?

No,
but I have a 13 year old little brother, so I am REALLY not going to say this is good or funny.

On topic: I know it's doublestanderd, but is really that wrong, i mean that 13 year old boy wanted sex and she is not a bad looker herself. And i mean what 13 year old dosen't have sex with an older semi attractive woman, i mean honestly she did him a favor. I mean i trying to say i don't think she's quite the monster you make her out to be

13 year old might want sex, but they also might want to drive a flaming ferrari through a stripclub.
But that´s not really happening either.
Because there are certain decision you are just not really able to make when you are 13.
Such as that a ferrari should NOT be on fire when you drive it through a strip club....... okay, that metaphor kind of didn´t go the way it was supposed to.
So yeah, I don´t think she is some kind of insane monster that eats children.
But what she did is still wrong.
For reasons other people have already explained quite aptly.

 

[wulfy42]

Someone above said they would be fine with it even if the genders were reversed (36 year old man and 13 year old girl). I'm sorry but I can't agree, especially not from the perspective of parents. A 13 year old girl might be dominated by an older man or confused, gotten drunk etc or just manipulated. Can the same be said for a 13 year old boy? Probably....but it would most likely be even easier for a 36 year old woman to do the manipulating.

So what is the difference then? The boy can't become pregnant for one......but he could still contact STD's and of course become emotionally involved with someone who is much older then him. I wouldn't want my 13 year old son (if I had one) sleeping with a 36 year old woman unless I set it up as some kind of initiation to sex in advance and made sure it would only happen once or something.

I don't think it's the same for both genders though although it's still obviously wrong for any over 18 year old to seduce and sleep with any child under the age of say 16. From 16 up I say it gets a bit more tricky but seriously anyone who is older then 18 sleeping with someone under the age of 16 has something wrong with them.

Yes, many 13 year old boys probably would be overjoyed if a 36 year old woman suddenly wanted to sleep with them.....but that will make them miss out on a more normal progression of dating etc. The 13 year old boy in this article may be happy with what happened but he'll never have a first time with someone around his own age. He won't slowly progress from kissing to actual sex with a partner etc. He was robbed of something even if he is not aware of it. His parents probably are aware of it and quite upset though.

I guess that is why something like this is so bad. The 13 year old boy belongs to a society which almost screams "If a girl wants to sleep with you go for it" The woman in question took advantage of that and took advantage of a very young man who should not have had to resist her advances. Asking someone of that age to do so is just wrong, and thats exactly what she did. She put the responsibility to say no in his hands.....and heck many adult men would not have done so.

Should she go to jail? I guess so if only to deter others from doing something similar. Should it be considered rape though? I don't think so. I think rape and child molestation need to have severe penalties and mixing in statitory rape just allows real rapists and molesters to get out of jail earlier. Not sure what the solution is.....but sending people like this woman to jail is probably not going to accomplish much in the long run. It sounds more like she has a mental problem then anything else to me.

 

[Reveras]

The hell is wrong with her? He's 13, she has 3 kids ffs! She's supposed to be a responsible adult. Makes me sick and even sadder for this world.

 

[Smooth Operator]

And her being 23 would have been ok?

Just goes to show you that there is no gender difference between the sick fucks out there.

That, and didn't it say she showed him pictures? Wouldn't that tip him off as to how old she is?

I'll go out on a limb here, but I'm guessing he really wanted to hit that, whatever age it may be.
And when I was his age I dreamed of any hot teachers to get a little frisky... but they never did

 

[MrAkuma201]

WHY!?

 

[DTWolfwood]

deja vu, the last one got busted with a 16yo i believe and they did it in the car at some parking lot.

 

[awesomeClaw]

You know, if i was in the same situation (And the woman in question was hotter) i probably would´ve slept with her without a second thought.

And i would´ve been perfectly happy with it.
One thing i´ve always been big on is not judging people based on their age. Just because a person is 34 doesn´t mean the person in question is ready for sex.

And just because a person i 13, that doesn´t mean that (s)he isn´t ready for sex.
Ofcourse, even i have limits. A 9 year old isn´t ready to make that descision.

I think the legal age of consent should be 12.

 

[Susan Arendt]

Its pretty easy for adults to manipulate adults, let alone children. That said, if he's not of the age of majority, then whether this thing is okay or not becomes a decision of the child's parents. I can't think of any parent in their right mind who would allow such a thing in this day and age. But, even as I say (write) that, I cant help but think to myself "a lot of parents just aren't in the right mind."

You are wise, indeed. Well said.

 

[BrionJames]

poor parenting, seriously when are parents going to start getting charged for the responsibility of monitoring their kids. Guess what? kids are fuckin' stupid, they're easy to dupe and don't have the experience that we as adults all draw from...so they have to be watched carefully to make sure they're not running into creepy pervs like the one pictured above.

 

[katsumoto03]

Pedophilia and rape? Damn, that's one sick fucking woman.

 

[Random berk]

Pedophilia and rape? Damn, that's one sick fucking woman.

This was pedophilia, due to the ages of both people involved, but it can't really be called rape. Not that I'm defending the woman, pedophilia alone is well worth the jail sentence, but rape implies the child was forced to have sex. Its pretty damned hard for a woman to force a man, even a younger man to have sex, and if I remember what early puberty was like, I doubt the kid needed convining, or if he even cared that she was much older than him. He'd probably have beenhappy enough once she had two legs and a vagina. Hell, he wasn't even negatively affected by this. His friends will most likely commend him for geting laid, being kids themselves, the article would have mentioned if she'd been infected with something, and if he impregnated her, I seriously doubt he'll have to share responsibility for it.

Also, it is probably for these reasons that when a woman manages to 'rape' a man (or boy) the courts tend not to take it as seriously. In the case of a fully grown man, its impossible without the use of a cocktail of drugs, and in the case of a boy, its pedophilia, but not forcible rape.

Again, I'm not condoning what she did at all, merely offering what I feel is a detached and logical view of the matter.