Woman Seduces Teen She Met on Xbox Live, Gets Busted

[Sennz0r]

Heh. It's funny how this double standard thing works; I mean eventhough everyone agrees this is sick and wrong, I can't help but think most people here think this is indeed a bit less sick and wrong than if the genders were reversed. Seeing as the established viewpoint of society is that the man is the the instigator of sexual congress, it doesn't really matter if he's 13 now does it?
There's a reason why there's an age of consent: pubescents are hormonal, impulsive, rebellious. Hell if you'd put them through traditional psych tests most of them would score 'sociopath', because they can't reason all that well yet. Sure there are exceptions to the rule, and we'd all like to think we did know what we were doing at age 13. Odds are we didn't though. So I'm glad we have these laws, and I'm glad there's no double standard as far as the law's concerned (theoretically, that is. There's a fair chance she might get a reduced sentence because she comes up with some sad story about her husband having scarred her emotionally and not being able to stand being away from her kids).

Also give the kid some porn and better online supervision.

 

[michiehoward]

Heh. It's funny how this double standard thing works; I mean eventhough everyone agrees this is sick and wrong, I can't help but think most people here think this is indeed a bit less sick and wrong than if the genders were reversed. Seeing as the established viewpoint of society is that the man is the the instigator of sexual congress, it doesn't really matter if he's 13 now does it?
There's a reason why there's an age of consent: pubescents are hormonal, impulsive, rebellious. Hell if you'd put them through traditional psych tests most of them would score 'sociopath', because they can't reason all that well yet. Sure there are exceptions to the rule, and we'd all like to think we did know what we were doing at age 13. Odds are we didn't though. So I'm glad we have these laws, and I'm glad there's no double standard as far as the law's concerned (theoretically, that is. There's a fair chance she might get a reduced sentence because she comes up with some sad story about her husband having scarred her emotionally and not being able to stand being away from her kids).

Also give the kid some porn and better online supervision.

Nope I pretty much think raping and molesting kids is SICK AND WRONG, no matter the gender of the perpetrator and victim.

 

[rutger5000]

Pretty sure we alread had a thread about this, but might be mistaken.

Also: still wrong, still not funny, still not "awesome for the dude".

This.

The double standards people have for this stuff is ridiculous. If it was a man and a 13 year old girl, people would be calling him a sick pedophile, but for a woman and a boy, there going to act like it's no big deal.

I don't agree with having double standards on this is wrong. Girls/women in their teens normally are mentally two years older then boys/man. Ironically enough it's the boys for who I think it would be harmful to have sex earlier. Boys are just more interested into sex, and often also more assertive, they are much quicker to say no.
13 years is still way to young, but if the boy had been 15 then I would not condone the act. Still think it's creepy as hell, but hey it's a free country. However had it been a girl 15 year old molested by a 32 old man, then I want to see that man in prison.
Women and girls of course should have the same opportunities, rights and responsibilities as man and boys. However it makes no sense to threat them the same in every scenario, and when it's about sex I would say that girls need more protection.

 

[Vault Citizen]

I had sex below the age of consent in a country where it is close to the lowest it gets but even if find 13 to be a bit too young for comfort.

Personally, i think if the kid agreed to it, why not?

But if she raped him, she´s a seriously sick girl. Like, Hitler sick.
But again, if the kid agreed...

EDIT: Looking at her picture, she looks like a fucking drug addict. Not cool. Previous opinion canceled.

Are you saying that the fact that she isn't attractive makes it bad when her being attractive would have made it ok? Are you saying that her looks make it more likely she forced herself on him? Or none of the above?

 

[BNguyen]

while you may not see the photo as standard, I view it as necessary. her family and the people around her need to understand what this person that they once knew and trusted has become and the people who might associate with her in the future need to know who she is and be cautious. Once you have knowingly and intentionally committed a crime, your punishment should stick with you until you truly regret your actions and the people around you are able to trust you again.

hit reply instead of quote - meant for Swaki

 

[Azrael the Cat]

Do you guys REALLY think that 13/14 year old girls never see sex as a conquest either? From having worked in criminal law, about 95% of all paedophilia is 'voluntary' by the victim. It isn't until the victim is much older that they realise they've been harmed by it.

You can't say 'if it's a bad decision than it's the kid's fault and he/she is the one who must regret it' - he's a CHILD, he's not supposed to have to make good decisions. It's the adult's obligation not to take advantage of him/her, including his/her sexual desire. That's why we have a statutory age of consent.

If a 25 year old has sex with a 14 year old, you CAN blame the 25 year old. She's the only one you CAN blame - she's an adult and it's her responsibility not to allow the 14 year old to get into a situation that she/he might regret later.

 

[Sennz0r]

Heh. It's funny how this double standard thing works; I mean eventhough everyone agrees this is sick and wrong, I can't help but think most people here think this is indeed a bit less sick and wrong than if the genders were reversed. Seeing as the established viewpoint of society is that the man is the the instigator of sexual congress, it doesn't really matter if he's 13 now does it?
There's a reason why there's an age of consent: pubescents are hormonal, impulsive, rebellious. Hell if you'd put them through traditional psych tests most of them would score 'sociopath', because they can't reason all that well yet. Sure there are exceptions to the rule, and we'd all like to think we did know what we were doing at age 13. Odds are we didn't though. So I'm glad we have these laws, and I'm glad there's no double standard as far as the law's concerned (theoretically, that is. There's a fair chance she might get a reduced sentence because she comes up with some sad story about her husband having scarred her emotionally and not being able to stand being away from her kids).

Also give the kid some porn and better online supervision.

Nope I pretty much think raping and molesting kids is SICK AND WRONG, no matter the gender of the perpetrator and victim.

You do realise I'm on the same team as you right? I'm just pointing out a fundamental flaw between societal views and the law. Also my statement has the disadvantage of no one ever going to admit they do actually find it less wrong because that would mean they're creeps.

 

[AngelOfBlueRoses]

Ah, the puritanism of the US never ceases to amaze me (more like the rest of the civilized world). Had this happened here, people would be joking about it.

I bet your country sure loves double standards and is also a riot to live in.

It wouldn't matter if this kid was a girl or a boy; preying on a 13 year old child for sex is just wrong in every single way. Statutory rape was committed and that's never a joking matter.

Do you guys REALLY think that 13/14 year old girls never see sex as a conquest either? From having worked in criminal law, about 95% of all paedophilia is 'voluntary' by the victim. It isn't until the victim is much older that they realise they've been harmed by it.

You can't say 'if it's a bad decision than it's the kid's fault and he/she is the one who must regret it' - he's a CHILD, he's not supposed to have to make good decisions. It's the adult's obligation not to take advantage of him/her, including his/her sexual desire. That's why we have a statutory age of consent.

If a 25 year old has sex with a 14 year old, you CAN blame the 25 year old. She's the only one you CAN blame - she's an adult and it's her responsibility not to allow the 14 year old to get into a situation that she/he might regret later.

Quoted For Truth.

 

[rutger5000]

Ah, the puritanism of the US never ceases to amaze me (more like the rest of the civilized world). Had this happened here, people would be joking about it.

Where is "Here"?

That is disgusting.

Just, no, I'm sorry all you people out there, but this is not okay in the slightest sense.
There is absolutely no reason for a 13 year old to be sexually active - and I don't really care about if the woman he'd be having sex with was 36 or 13 or 18, there is no reason for a kid to be having sex. Yes, whatever, there are exceptions, some kids are more mature, but there are always fucking exceptions and they are as a matter of fact the minority. But for christs sake - my brother's 12, and he pretended to puke when he saw me kiss my boyfriend, which should be the very most common reaction among kids. They should not be encouraged, by anyone, to have sex yet, because, face the facts, the vast majority are not fucking mature, or informed, enough to realise all the potential consequences of it nor are they most likely capable of actually getting what the act of sex means.

And let's not forget, it's not all about one person here - there are two individuals involved in sex(usually), taking into to consideration only one of them is not looking at the big picture. This woman in this article probably have some damn issues, and they've probably not been properly adressed, which can actually be why this happened at all. She too can also get huge emotional scars from this, hell, she probably has them already.

This situation brings nothing good. Seriously.

Why should closemindedness and denial be the common reaction? If anything, we should just educate them on sex, the consequences, safe sex and that kind of stuff rather than go "LA-LA-LA IF I NO PAY ATTENTION IT GOES AWAY!"

Ummm no it has nothing to do with sex education, a crime was committed, how about crime education.

My comment was more directed at your statement that what your little brother did should be normal.

Oh, my bad. LOL

I think little brothers and sisters cringe more at the sight of seeing their elder siblings kissing because little brothers and sisters don't want to think of their older siblings in that way, just as they don't want to walk in on their parents having sex either.

Totally agree with the guy/girl who said you guys need better sex-education. (That is assuming you are American). Contrast too what paranoid parents might believe giving sex-education at a early (in my case 6, god I love the Netherlands) is not harmful to a child. He/She will not have any desires to put into practice what he/she has heard about, however they have much more understanding why you should yell and run away when a strange old man offers to give him/her candy if they would come with him in his van.
Also through puberty they have a better understand what they are feeling, and a more capable handling it. Again this makes them less vulnerable to pedophiles.

Earlier I said a lot to defend the point of working with two standards, but I must say I was really thinking and reasoning from my reference frame. In a country where teenagers are so ignorant about sex, both cases should be treaded as the same.

 

[Grey_Focks]

Oh, you people and your society. I was a 13 year old boy once.

Not old enough to understand the ramifications? By the time I was three years older than that boy I was married and had a child. In that order. That was 15 years ago and I'm still happily married and now have 2 children. I'm willing to bet that the majority of people here haven't been happily married that long. Hell, most of your parents probably weren't happily married that long.

Granted my story is an exception but here you people sit judging two people you've never met. You people are what makes me sick.

I...don't...even...

Eh, never mind. Without meaning to sound to insensitive, your culture is very different than ours, you're the exception not the rule, and it is a well known and established fact that children going through puberty will generally only have one thing on their mind, and will do whatever stupid things they have to do to get it. This women knows that, and took advantage of that fact in order to have sex with this child. the fact that she has children that may very well be the same age as this boy just adds a whole extra level of "wtf" to it. That's all I have to say about that.

OT: Shit is fucked up, hope she rots, gender shouldn't matter at all when these things happen, as rape is rape. People trying to defend her acts are, no offense, people I plan on keeping my future kids far the fuck away from.

EDIT- oh, and I forgot, she's done this before. Yea, but I'm sure they were in love or whatever.

 

[Sovereignty]

That is seriously disgusting... 13. The kid just barely discovered his pencil, and the woman is trying to get him to share his lead.

She's got to be one hell of a pervert to target a 13 year old. And the fact this isn't the first.

Why aren't we putting child molesters to death? They can't be rehabilitated.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I've had my own fantasies of older women when I was a pubescent boy, but the reality of it usually isn't all that wonderful.

And since the kid is a budding teenager, this whole event will probably completely screw up his notion of sex and women for the rest of his life. I saw a documentary once about kids that were sexually active at a very young age, and it scared the shit out of me how twisted they were.

 

[Sovereignty]

Oh, you people and your society. I was a 13 year old boy once.

Not old enough to understand the ramifications? By the time I was three years older than that boy I was married and had a child. In that order. That was 15 years ago and I'm still happily married and now have 2 children. I'm willing to bet that the majority of people here haven't been happily married that long. Hell, most of your parents probably weren't happily married that long.

Granted my story is an exception but here you people sit judging two people you've never met. You people are what makes me sick.

I...don't...even...

Eh, never mind. Without meaning to sound to insensitive, your culture is very different than ours, you're the exception not the rule, and it is a well known and established fact that children going through puberty will generally only have one thing on their mind, and will do whatever stupid things they have to do to get it. This women knows that, and took advantage of that fact in order to have sex with this child. the fact that she has children that may very well be the same age as this boy just adds a whole extra level of "wtf" to it. That's all I have to say about that.

OT: Shit is fucked up, hope she rots, gender shouldn't matter at all when these things happen, as rape is rape. People trying to defend her acts are, no offense, people I plan on keeping my future kids far the fuck away from.

Don't forget she did it twice!

 

[-Samurai-]

I love how everyone is going "AAAARRRG RAPIST!!!". Don't forget;

You can't rape the willing.

Sure, the law calls it rape, but it was consensual. I bet that kid isn't calling it rape. He's probably calling it sex, considering it was his idea, too. She got his address somehow.

Still wrong? You bet. But is isn't like it was actual rape. Just what the judicial system decided to define rape as, this time.

 

[Sennz0r]

I love how everyone is going "AAAARRRG RAPIST!!!". Don't forget;

You can't rape the willing.

Sure, the law calls it rape, but it was consensual. I bet that kid isn't calling it rape. He's probably calling it sex, considering it was his idea, too. She got his address somehow.

Still wrong? You bet. But is isn't like it was actual rape. Just what the judicial system decided to define rape as, this time.

I agree with you, but it's still rape seeing as minors generally don't make great decisions related to things like this. Read my previous post for a slightly more elaborate explanation on that.

 

[ishist]

I love how everyone is going "AAAARRRG RAPIST!!!". Don't forget;

You can't rape the willing.

Sure, the law calls it rape, but it was consensual. I bet that kid isn't calling it rape. He's probably calling it sex, considering it was his idea, too. She got his address somehow.

Still wrong? You bet. But is isn't like it was actual rape. Just what the judicial system decided to define rape as, this time.

I agree with you, but it's still rape seeing as minors generally don't make great decisions related to things like this. Read my previous post for a slightly more elaborate explanation on that.

@-Samurai-: THAT is precisely how I see it.

@Sennz0r: By your logic the grand majority of the population should be rotting in prison for having sex with an inebriated partner. Because if there is anyone who is less capable of making a rational decision about sex than the pubescent, it's the drunken.

 

[RowdyRodimus]

She's not the best looking, but hell, I would've Rogered her Roundly (big props if you get that reference) and kept her from serving time. Civic duty and all that.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

that's low man, sure child molesters are universally regarded as bad people, but there is no need to show a picture of her, especially when she has kids, you are not hurting her, shes going to jail, but her kids dont need schoolmates (the chance that some of the kids who go to their school visiting this site is pretty big) to know, and heck even if they dont plastering her face around is in poor taste, its not like she is on the run and you could hope that someone could contact the police with information about her.

There's no way people at school wouldn't find out.

And putting photos is standard procedure, not "low".

and you don't see the problem in that?, where do you draw the line?, sure i live in Denmark where its standard procedure not to mention names or show pictures, even if the suspect is on the run the police only gives out vague information like height and hair colour, imagine that instead of showing pictures of her and her name, they didn't, she would still be punished for her crimes, but how would the classmates find out?.

Is the 15+ years shes going to spend in jail not a fitting punishment, does her family need to suffer for her crimes too? and what about after she has paid for her crimes, her life will still be ruined long after she has paid her debt to society, note im not saying that we need to go easy on such crimes.

That's in Denmark. This isn't. Her face, name, and everything else about her is already all over the local news, placing it in an article about the event isn't harmful in any way. If no info had been released, and the author dug it out of some police records, then it would have been low, and I'd agree with. But again, that isn't the situation.

And I highly doubt people from her school go here. The internet is a huge place, and this site isn't super ginormous.