Other than that, my personal favorite:FPLOON post="http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/538.881185.22195304" said:Your mind is the computer... Update it well...Adventure Time is like the child equivalent to watching real-life... It's consistently inconsistent, yet it somehow makes sense...That's all I got...The end is only the beginning... and the beginning is just another middle leading towards the end...
Despite this being a commonly used phrase, I feel like it has so many disclaimers attached to it that it's almost useless. Problem number one is that not everyone wants to be treated the same as you do, and problem number two, very few people deserve to be treated the way they want to be treated.Saelune said:The golden rule: Treat others how you want to be treated.
The platinum rule: Treat others how they want to be treated.
Like all sayings, it lacks context. But these aren't rules to bind yourself to. Its just to remind you that not everyone has the same tastes, desires, and feelings as you, but also you wouldn't want someone being shitty to you. Just because something offends you, doesn't mean it offends others, and vice versa.FirstNameLastName said:Despite this being a commonly used phrase, I feel like it has so many disclaimers attached to it that it's almost useless. Problem number one is that not everyone wants to be treated the same as you do, and problem number two, very few people deserve to be treated the way they want to be treated.Saelune said:The golden rule: Treat others how you want to be treated.
The platinum rule: Treat others how they want to be treated.
I sure wouldn't want to be put in prison, and I'm sure no criminal would want it either, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be. Likewise, I'm sure most people would like to have everything handed to them and never have to work or face any consequences for their actions.
I think "treat people the way they treat others" might be a bit closer to the truth.
I read that on a suagr packet about 12 years agoMythicMatt said:"Time you enjoyed wasting isn't wasted time." - Pretty sure someone on the internet said this.
So if everyone treated me like shit, then I should treat everyone like shit?Saelune said:The golden rule: Treat others how you want to be treated.
The platinum rule: Treat others how they want to be treated.
Basically this.Smilomaniac said:...
I don't mean to be mean or anything, it's the first time I've seen it and I hope this isn't something people actually do.
Smilomaniac said:The platinum rule is redundant and infantilizing. Let's say someone treats you like they would like to be treated, then it's your responsibility to see it from their point of view and not take offense, but instead appreciate the honesty.Saelune said:The golden rule: Treat others how you want to be treated.
The platinum rule: Treat others how they want to be treated.
You treat them the way you want to be treated, the responsibility is theirs.
Voila, both have just gained insight into the other and can take it from there.
It's not that I don't get the "platinum rule" or the intent, but I can't help but see it as misguided intent. It's literally being prejudicial of others in action, but could also range from fake niceties to outright manipulation.
I don't mean to be mean or anything, it's the first time I've seen it and I hope this isn't something people actually do.
I didn't say be a walking mat. If someone is a jerk to you, fuck them. The idea is to just understand other people and know that what works for you may not work for others. I don't respond to tough love very well, but maybe it works better for others. Maybe I don't like people hugging me, so don't, but that doesn't mean you cant let people hug you. Just accept eachother's personal differences when it doesn't hurt you to do so.someguy1488 said:So if everyone treated me like shit, then I should treat everyone like shit?Saelune said:The golden rule: Treat others how you want to be treated.
The platinum rule: Treat others how they want to be treated.
Basically this.Smilomaniac said:...
I don't mean to be mean or anything, it's the first time I've seen it and I hope this isn't something people actually do.
Also sorry, I guess you're getting lynched by people at this point. Probably we've all seen 'the golden rule' so many times that we want to hang the next person that brings it up.
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"Give a man some fire and he will be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life."
Ok, take what you seem to think I am saying, and the opposite of that is what I am actually saying. Just because most people are shitty, doesn't mean you should be shitty. Think of the issues when cultures clash. You're in a foreign country, you don't now the customs and social expectations. You should probably try to atleast respect them though, but you shouldn't be despised by the locals when you unintentionally go against theirs when you do something normal to your culture. Both you and the locals should just understand that eachothers own expectations shouldn't be so forced onto eachother.Smilomaniac said:Well yeah, what you're saying is obvious, it's something you learn about other people and then you change your behaviour accordingly, but the golden rule is for first impressions, strangers and acquaintances.Saelune said:I didn't say be a walking mat. If someone is a jerk to you, fuck them. The idea is to just understand other people and know that what works for you may not work for others. I don't respond to tough love very well, but maybe it works better for others. Maybe I don't like people hugging me, so don't, but that doesn't mean you cant let people hug you. Just accept eachother's personal differences when it doesn't hurt you to do so.
You don't owe these people anything, so you don't adjust who you are on their behalf. You can be corteous or nice, sure, but you don't start analyzing them and tailor your behaviour to someone you just met or rarely meet.
If the platinum rule isn't under the same circumstances, then it's misleading. If it is under the same circumstances, then it's bad advice.
Also, don't forget that a lot of people don't care to change the way they behave around you. That doesn't necessarily make them bad people, they might just have higher standards for you, might not care about certain things/sweat the little things or they might just be oblivious.
I just don't see this as an idea or word of wisdom, y'know? It honestly smacks of entitled behaviour more than anything else, like expecting special treatment. I mean this as a generality of it being a "rule" and I think many will take it that way.
I don't mean to attribute this to you, in fact I think you're probably empathetic and want the best for others and expect similar or some empathetic treatment in return. I'd even argue it's having standards for others in a good way, but by far most people are not so introspective and nice to others, that it's hard to argue as being general advice.
That's a nice one, I like that.DudeistBelieve said:I'm not sure where I heard it but...
"It's not good enough to just coast through life trying not to do no harm. You have to try and make the world a better place than how you found it."