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Ariosona

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Nia-san said:
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The Fork of Truth, any one?
Oh OH OH OH !!!!

Darn! I know the game your talking about...I think...There's lots of Green Goo monsters and one of your weapons in a spoon which upgrades to the fork...what's it called?!

ok this is annyong me...

and i think the fork of truth is probably one of the most pathetic weapons...still awesome...but sucky...should've been able to upgrade to the spork of truth!
Orrr.. more likely... Baron reads LFGcomic ^^ In which case they are an insta-friend of mine.
 

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Some JRPG weapons are really bad, yet they try to pass it as "exotic". Some examples include:

- Girls that fight using umbrellas. Not in the Penguin kind of way, but actually hitting you with one.
- Girls that fight using fans. Not in the Kitana kind of way, but paper or silk fans.
 

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Akalabeth said:
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Actually, I'd say the lightsaber is the dumbest weapon ever. And also the coolest, and this is coming from a huge Star Wars nerd.

I mean, a beam of pure energy in the approximate length of a sword with but absolutely no weight anywhere but the handle, and the ability to slice through limbs with almost no resistance? Who the hell would want to train on one of those?
No weight? Have you actually seen the original trilogy? The original lightsaber battles were more like medieval long-sword duels or something of the like and then the new trilogy comes out and suddenly the Jedi are all ninjas not knights.

Jedi incidentally are pretty stupid, has no one heard the term "don't bring a knife to a gun battle" yet in the second movie they're all getting slaughtered at the arena, decades and decades of training gone and for what? killing a few droids that take a day to produce? Talk about a waste of time.
That is more about time catching up with the movies. The lightsaber have always being weightless, but Guiness was not in condition to play ninja. And I was always surprised how could Jedi's get slaughter in that arena when we see 5 year old jedis practicing the reflecting. Is kind of ninjas getting killed for stumbling.

Still, the lightsaber is a dumb weapon in a dumb universe... At least, dumb enough to forget about fighting Jedis with lasers and use rocket launchers instead (good luck reflecting that up, lightsaber)
 

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Silverwings1123 said:
I vote for the gunblade
Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but anyway, gunblades were real. It's essentially a flintlock / wheel-lock etc built into the hilt of a sword.
Shooting someone just prior to impaling them, I'd say that's actually pretty damn handy.
 

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hermes200 said:
Akalabeth said:
QuirkyTambourine said:
Actually, I'd say the lightsaber is the dumbest weapon ever. And also the coolest, and this is coming from a huge Star Wars nerd.

I mean, a beam of pure energy in the approximate length of a sword with but absolutely no weight anywhere but the handle, and the ability to slice through limbs with almost no resistance? Who the hell would want to train on one of those?
No weight? Have you actually seen the original trilogy? The original lightsaber battles were more like medieval long-sword duels or something of the like and then the new trilogy comes out and suddenly the Jedi are all ninjas not knights.

Jedi incidentally are pretty stupid, has no one heard the term "don't bring a knife to a gun battle" yet in the second movie they're all getting slaughtered at the arena, decades and decades of training gone and for what? killing a few droids that take a day to produce? Talk about a waste of time.
That is more about time catching up with the movies. The lightsaber have always being weightless, but Guiness was not in condition to play ninja. And I was always surprised how could Jedi's get slaughter in that arena when we see 5 year old jedis practicing the reflecting. Is kind of ninjas getting killed for stumbling.

Still, the lightsaber is a dumb weapon in a dumb universe... At least, dumb enough to forget about fighting Jedis with lasers and use rocket launchers instead (good luck reflecting that up, lightsaber)
Force push works. Just try it in Jedi Academy or any of the other jedi knight games.

Et3rnalLegend64 said:
To add to this: what's up with the Count Dooku curved Lightsaber handles? It's basically the same as the Gunblade, but with a Lightsaber. If you want to throw in the "you need Force Sensitivity to not kill yourself with a Lightsaber" argument, then that is the worst weapon for normal people to use.
The handle is similar to the handle on fencing foils and his style is a fencing style, not a hacking/cutting style like the jedi's. Their style were based on real life kenjutsu.
 

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Easy Anti Tank mine dog. Stupid Russian's training the dogs with their own tanks so, when let into battle, didn't run towards the German Panzers, Panthers, Tigers, StuGs. But their own T34s etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_tank_dog
 

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Count me in along with all those who say that the Gunblade is the stupidest weapon ever.

I also thought the Barnacle Gun in Half-Life: Opposing Force was ridiculous.
 

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chris89 said:
Easy Anti Tank mine dog. Stupid Russian's training the dogs with their own tanks so, when let into battle, didn't run towards the German Panzers, Panthers, Tigers, StuGs. But their own T34s etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_tank_dog
russian 1:eek:k doggy attack zee tank!
*lets dog out*
russian 2:wait whys he coming towards me?OH MY GODSKI! *boom*

what if we made a reverse gunblade thats a gun that shoots blades? the bladegun
 

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flaming_squirrel said:
Silverwings1123 said:
I vote for the gunblade
Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but anyway, gunblades were real. It's essentially a flintlock / wheel-lock etc built into the hilt of a sword.
Shooting someone just prior to impaling them, I'd say that's actually pretty damn handy.
Sounds handy until you think about how both a gun battle and a sword fight would play out, you would have a weapon that you could theoretically use in both but wouldn't really want to given the choice (up close you'd rather have a sword and from a distance you'd rather have a gun).

The most useless weapon I can think of would have to be the Gravity gun. Why? Because (as I have said before in quite a few other threads) if we are to look at it scientifically then we will quickly realise that it would be an expensive load of arse with a handle. The basic principle of 'every action has an equal and opposite reaction' means that if you were to fire anything at anyone with enough force to do significant damage then siad force would also be thrown backwards at you, the wielder of the weapon (this means that you would kill yourself in the process of taking down one guy).

Also, despite the fact that the gun can be used for heavy lifting in Half Life 2 (especially when powered up) in reality you would be limited to being able to lift whatever you happen to be capable of carrying anyway (all the mass from the object has to go somewhere, this is why objects on a plane or being suspended by a hook or crane still weigh something despite being held up).
 

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Iron Mal said:
Sounds handy until you think about how both a gun battle and a sword fight would play out, you would have a weapon that you could theoretically use in both but wouldn't really want to given the choice (up close you'd rather have a sword and from a distance you'd rather have a gun).
They were a nobleman's self defence tool though, imagine you're being mugged by some dastardly thieves in the back alleys of merry ol' London, with a regular pistol one shot and if you missed, that's it, game over. But with a gunblade you still have a viable means of defence even after you've got that shot off.
 

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Altorin said:
Et3rnalLegend64 said:
Double-ended Lightsaber. Looks awesome, but there's a huge chance that you'll slice off your own limb. Seriously. And the handle isn't nearly long enough to use like a Bo Staff, so your grips are limited.
that's why they use the force.

Seriously, they use their attunement with the force to have a supernatural awareness of where their body is, in relation to the lightsaber. It's explained pretty clearly. A double bladed lightsaber would require a lot more care in its use, but using the Force, it's definitely not the most hard to believe things jedis do.
Ya that's why they don't cut themselves with the normal light sabers and why they can block laser blasts.

hermes200 said:
Some JRPG weapons are really bad, yet they try to pass it as "exotic". Some examples include:

- Girls that fight using umbrellas. Not in the Penguin kind of way, but actually hitting you with one.
- Girls that fight using fans. Not in the Kitana kind of way, but paper or silk fans.
Ya but in those realms of fiction a generic item can cut steel.
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On a side note I love both gunsword concept's either the sword that has a powered kinetic/energy hit via a gun like mechanic or a sword that has a gun built into it.
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Most useless weapon I can think of is the default range weapon on most FPS either a pistol of some kind or some mouth breather melee weapon that takes more than 3 hits to kill something.
 

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flaming_squirrel said:
Iron Mal said:
Sounds handy until you think about how both a gun battle and a sword fight would play out, you would have a weapon that you could theoretically use in both but wouldn't really want to given the choice (up close you'd rather have a sword and from a distance you'd rather have a gun).
They were a nobleman's self defence tool though, imagine you're being mugged by some dastardly thieves in the back alleys of merry ol' London, with a regular pistol one shot and if you missed, that's it, game over. But with a gunblade you still have a viable means of defence even after you've got that shot off.
If you only got one shot with it then why not forget the whole risk of being forced to use an unbalanced (and probably lower quality) blade for the benefit of a single shot that might miss and just go with a regular sword.

The gun blade is a good example of why having something that is universal in application can be a worse option than having something that is highly specialised (we have the saying 'jack of all trades and master of none').

If you think you'll be fighting up close then you will be better off bringing a sword/knife/melee weapon but if you think you'll be fighting from afar then bring a rifle/pistol/gun, the gunblade in theory allows you to counter both until you actually look at it (it's hard to use as both a gun and a sword so you will lose your so called 'advantage' to the fact that it's awkward to hold).