Worst leaders of your country

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AnarchistFish

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MrPeanut said:
Worst leaders of Hungary? all of them.

Funnily enough any competent leaders we ever had were foreigners.
Haha and France has Sarkozy, who's half-Hungarian.

PsychedelicDiamond said:
Hitler.

I win.
I'd say there've been worse out there to be honest..
 

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I want to say David Cameron, I really really do, but he hasn't fucked up enough yet for me to warrant it, so its a toss up between Tony Blair, who did a lot of good, all of which was off set by the whole Iraq fiasco. or thatcher, who I genuinely believed was the worst thing to happen to this countries politics, she set the precedent for for politicians to just flat out ignore the law for there benefit on a massive scale (yeah i know this is debatable before anyone decides to argue)

captcha: sticky buns. seriously what is with all the Britishness in the captchas lately? haha
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Andrew Jackson, he was the hitler of american presidents but the only reason he tends not to be regarded as such is because it was against brown people.
 

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The current one since I wasn't around for Thatcher and the lizard lord will probably do something worse at some point anyway.

oh wait he already did. I don't eat pasties but if I did...
 

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Probably... David Cameron. Honeslty, it simply that he seems as generic as they come in terms of Eton educated English blokes fitting into the role of leader for "our benefit". Us confused lesser classes...
 

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Buchanan, Bush, and currently 90% of the people we have in as our elected officials.
We elected idiots. A lot of 'em.
 

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jklinders said:
Prime Minister John Diefenbaker. He was a horrible example of what happens when a man with no vision is elected to public office. Under him, the Avro Arrow program was cancelled. This put Canada into a position of being even further dependent on US military tech than we already were.

Brian Mulroney. The deficit tripled under the rule of this silver tongued cretin. He also signed the free trade agreement with the US which saw more money go south than before. Consumer goods got a bit cheaper but at the cost of losing domestically owned manufacturing and retail. Finally he left the party just in time to allow his successor to get slapped with the natural result of the scandals he had built up over 9 years.

Stephen Harper the man who took us from surplus budgets to deficits within a year, used massive government spending programs to directly promote his own party and is pushing harder than any previous leader to turn Canada into a war mongering state.
I second these choices.
 

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Among the near-equally bad ones? Mao Zedong.
Got to give him credit, though. The goddamn bastard's actions were the reasons why my grandparents fled to Hong Kong in the first place.
 

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Here comes the inevitable raging against recent leaders, but they're the ones most immediate in our head, not necessarily the worst. I hope we can actually think about the worst leaders and not the ones that have been bashed within the last 20 years).

We've had some pretty bad ones in America, like John Tyler. You know, that guy who once he became president he completely abandoned his party and did a 180?

Also not directly on topic, so in spoiler for my thoughts not on the worst leader, but the most over-glorified one.

There's another name I'd like to say, not because I think he is the worst leader but because he is overrated and made out to be a man he wasn't, and at the risk of being called a member of the KKK and supporter of slavery, that is Abraham Lincoln. He caused animosity, is a major cause of the Civil War starting, his Emancipation Proclamation did nothing and was simply a political scheme (it stated that slaves in rebelling states were freed, states that declared themselves a separate nation and therefore outside of his power, and mentioned no other slaves) and it is the cause of the common belief that the Civil War was over slavery. It was a tactical move to gain support and attempt to weaken the south, while also maintaining the border states by not mentioning their slaves in the Proclamation.

Abraham Lincoln-"If I could preserve the Union by freeing none of the slaves I would do it; if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union." Yep, that guy is fighting to free the slaves alright!

Now then, I do not support slavery, I do not believe the United States should be split into two nations, I do not believe the South were the good guys (no one was, it as a damn war that consisted of killing your neighbor), I simply want Lincoln to be recognized for who he was, not the glorified savior of slaves he is made out to be

P.S. please do not try and bring in a debate about the last couple of presidents for America. They are too recent and all surrounded by so much misinformation, poorly reported news, and mob hate that it is pointless.
 

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jklinders said:
Honorable mention to Pierre Trudeau and Paul Martin for not understanding economics and ripping their own parties to tatters respectively.

I dunno, I'm not sure there was anything that paul martin could have done to save the liberals' post sponsorship scandal reputation short of somehow sending every citizen a million dollars while simultaneously not devaluing the dollar
 

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jklinders said:
Brian Mulroney. The deficit tripled under the rule of this silver tongued cretin. He also signed the free trade agreement with the US which saw more money go south than before. Consumer goods got a bit cheaper but at the cost of losing domestically owned manufacturing and retail. Finally he left the party just in time to allow his successor to get slapped with the natural result of the scandals he had built up over 9 years..
HIM!! Bastard sold us out the US and brought in the GST.
 

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Andrew Jackson. He wasn't just a bad leader, he was also evil. Like, supervillain evil. Guy spent most of his military career and presidency thinking up creative ways to persecute and exterminate Native Americans, with a brief break to kick the British out of New Orleans.

Worgen said:
Andrew Jackson, he was the hitler of american presidents but the only reason he tends not to be regarded as such is because it was against brown people.
This guy gets it!

Lyndon Johnson was pretty bad too. Not a terribly BAD leader, just very inept and had zero presence, nor commanded any authority (which, really, is a common theme when vice-presidents step up). Caused Vietnam to drag out far longer than it had any right to, as well as dragging his feet on the Civil Rights issues.

Andrew Johnson. Eugh. The South is still feeling the effects of his presidency, nearly 150 years later.

U.S. Grant. Like LBJ, he wasn't bad or evil, just a bad president. Had no control over anything, drank more than he breathed, and had the most corrupt cabinet in U.S. history.

Rev. Al Sharpton. Not a president, but his constant grandstanding and vitrolic speech have really tainted the entire message behind the Civil Rights movement.
 

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Worgen said:
Andrew Jackson, he was the hitler of american presidents but the only reason he tends not to be regarded as such is because it was against brown people.
Yeah he pretty well abused his power and was pretty clearly a racist. Still, he did manage to do some good things at least (even if outweighed by nearly ignoring the checks and balance system), like actually reducing the national debt. I hate the man, but there have been people who have actually screwed the country as opposed to one race.

Ordinaryundone said:
U.S. Grant. Like LBJ, he wasn't bad or evil, just a bad president. Had no control over anything, drank more than he breathed, and had the most corrupt cabinet in U.S. history.
Heh, where I'm from we call him Useless Grant. He was a military leader, not a president. He didn't really run anything and mainly just appointed a crap load of people for supporting him and let them have at it. There have been worse.
 

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In the 80 or so years we have been governing ourselves, Ireland has not, in my opinion, had a single politician who was good.
We've been run by groups of corrupt gangsters, crooks, cronies, and idiots. They revelled and lapped up praise in the boom times (which had nothing to do with Irish politicians, and more to do with the EU) and have proven to be utterly incompetent and left the country in a stink during this current recession. Irish politics has been a boys club with members who have no idea about economics or Irish society - they are absolutely clueless!
 

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Well our current "leader" i suppose.

Fredrik Reindfelt managed to make sick people healthy, at least on paper by forcing them out of their sick pay even if they had life threatning illneses and disabilitis.


P.S. Sorry for the bad grammar.
 

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Hitler, I guess.

This is totally unfair. Everyone here has this massive history to back their country up but I dont. Germany's history is just WW2, WW1 and loads of small kingdoms before that.
I'd just go with the Holy Roman Empire. It isn't strictly Germany, but it's close enough, and will give you plenty of crazy emperors to choose from. I honestly can't remember any names of particularly shitty rule -though Barbarossas death was so hilariously pathetic, I'd consider him a "bad" leader - but any hereditary rule is going to have some bad eggs over hundreds of years of rule.

As for my native Switzerland. I'll go with Christoph Blocher, one of our 7 Bundesräte up until a few years ago. A stupid loudmouth with lots of ignorant opinions who did nothing but cause trouble. And the worst thing is, he's still causing trouble! He recently got the boss of our national bank fired over a scandal, in which I personally think he was innocent, even though he was great at his job and his measures had greatly supported our economy in these tough times (for swiss standards).