Worst leaders of your country

[ulzugot]

Since I lived in few countries, there it is

Poland:

Konrad I of Masovia - brought Teutonic order to evangelize/genocide Old Prussians and Yotvingians for him. Once Teutonic Kinghts were done, they refused to leave and wanted to conquer the northern territories with access to the sea, what resulted in series of wars lasting 2 centuries.


Henry III of France - he was a king in my country for a short time, taking advantage of the fact
nobles voted on the kings. He did not care about politics and blew chunk of treasury on pointless gambling and expensive costumes for himself, and run away once he could be a king of France, and also realized that noblemen would remove him from throne due to his incompetence. Did nothing useful as a King for 2 years. He also stole plumbing and toilets.


Jaroslaw Kaczynski - won elections only because he was pondering to the old people and people who believe that Catholicism is the only right religion. He was incompetent, hindered Polish diplomacy, died in a plain crash, along with plenty of other politicians, probably caused by himself (last time a pilot refused to land on a dangerous airport, he almost got fired and fined). Since his death his real life decoy, aka twin brother, tries to become president.

England:
What others said (but I see Thatcher as the worst)

the U.S.
Bush, Nixon, Raegan, and Jackson



Capcha:"zero tolerance"

 

[flarty]

Hitler, I guess.

This is totally unfair. Everyone here has this massive history to back their country up but I dont. Germany's history is just WW2, WW1 and loads of small kingdoms before that.

You should be greatful. Since WW2 germany has done nothing but advanced towards becoming a shining example of how a country should be run. While not perfect its done a damn sight better than any other country on the planet including china.

But yes cameron and osbourne the hypocritical tossers of the moment. Something rotten about the current government, and im sure they'll be letting more favors for there rich pals slip past before they get voted out.

Blair, while he wasnt busy rimming his ol' pal george across the pound and commiting us to costly wars he did implement some good policiys, but also wasted vast sums of cash on useless ones too.

Thatcher as said before. she fucked our manufacturing sector.

 

[Raika]

Calvin Coolidge. Herbert Hoover. Uhhh...Coolidge again.

I feel obligated to say George W. Bush as well, but to be brutally honest with you, I just fuckin' feel sorry for that guy. He got in over his head and spent eight years getting slapped around by his administration. Poor dumb bastard.

 

[Amaror]

Hitler, I guess.

This is totally unfair. Everyone here has this massive history to back their country up but I dont. Germany's history is just WW2, WW1 and loads of small kingdoms before that.

Uhhh, what about Prussia and the Holy Roman Empire? Pretty big parts of history.

Still not really Germany, so its not really my country per se...

I count it as german (I am too from germany), sure they were not called "Germany", but they pretty much were germany. Since the 16. century The Holy Roman Empire's full name was even Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

There was no crisis in Iraq, a nation that, however unpleasant its leadership was, had nothing to do with 9/11 or WMDs. Blair threw away the lives of British soldiers for no better reason than to suck up to the US government of the day, the smarmy, sanctimonious little prick.

Let's be fair, every British leader has been forced to suck up to America, we kind of owe them it for saving us from our shitty economy. That's not to say I like it, I hate it in fact, but it's understandable that our government does it.

I'll have to go for Thatcher, I just hate that shrew. She may have helped save the economy but that doesn't excuse the fact that she was disestablishing the welfare state and was a staunch opponent to communism. She also shifted the focus to inflation from unemployment, a typically right wing move. Fucking Thatcher man.

 

[jklinders]

Honorable mention to Pierre Trudeau and Paul Martin for not understanding economics and ripping their own parties to tatters respectively.

I dunno, I'm not sure there was anything that paul martin could have done to save the liberals' post sponsorship scandal reputation short of somehow sending every citizen a million dollars while simultaneously not devaluing the dollar

Sponsorship Scandal be damned. He tore the Liberal party into pieces in his hurry to Give Cretien the bums rush out. I guarantee that if the Liberals were united under one leader they all trusted it would held Harper off for at least another term. Martin screwed himself by calling an election early to "get his own mandate." He barely held onto power with his fingernails. The three years he had he could have used rebuild the party's reputation, instead he gave the opposition the power to remove him at their convenience. He was a power hungry blithering idiot. He gets an honorable mention only because the only harm he did was to his party rather than the country.

 

[MetalDooley]

Prior to 1921 - Take your pick as they were all British for the preceding 800 or so years.Special mention to James I who was responsible for the Plantation of Ulster which led to the clusterfuck of shit that is Northern Ireland(no offence to any NI members but you have to admit your state has hardly had a trouble free history)

Post 1921 - Charles Haughey.Guy was essentially a fucking gangster yet still managed to serve 3 terms as Taoiseach(Irish prime minister)which to be perfectly honest says a lot about the stupidity of Irish voters as well.I mean he owned his own private island and a residence which rivalled the President's residence and no-one ever questioned how he could fucking afford it?Corruption,embezzlement,tax evasion,arms smuggling you name it he had a hand in it

In the 80 or so years we have been governing ourselves, Ireland has not, in my opinion, had a single politician who was good.
We've been run by groups of corrupt gangsters, crooks, cronies, and idiots. They revelled and lapped up praise in the boom times (which had nothing to do with Irish politicians, and more to do with the EU) and have proven to be utterly incompetent and left the country in a stink during this current recession. Irish politics has been a boys club with members who have no idea about economics or Irish society - they are absolutely clueless!

Yeah you've kinda summed up the sad state of Irish politics right there.I'm sure there have been several good politicians(e.g Noel Browne who attempted to introduce the Mother and Child scheme in the 50's which would have provided free maternity care for all women and free healthcare for all children up to the age of 16 and was also behind the drive to eradicate TB)however they will always be overshadowed by the legions of gormless,corrupt idiots

 

[scarfacetehstag]

Prime Minister John Diefenbaker. He was a horrible example of what happens when a man with no vision is elected to public office. Under him, the Avro Arrow program was cancelled. This put Canada into a position of being even further dependent on US military tech than we already were.

Brian Mulroney. The deficit tripled under the rule of this silver tongued cretin. He also signed the free trade agreement with the US which saw more money go south than before. Consumer goods got a bit cheaper but at the cost of losing domestically owned manufacturing and retail. Finally he left the party just in time to allow his successor to get slapped with the natural result of the scandals he had built up over 9 years.

Stephen Harper the man who took us from surplus budgets to deficits within a year, used massive government spending programs to directly promote his own party and is pushing harder than any previous leader to turn Canada into a war mongering state.

Honorable mention to Pierre Trudeau and Paul Martin for not understanding economics and ripping their own parties to tatters respectively.

WE GOTS A SUPER LIB HERE

Your really think the last decent conservative prime minister was the worsts tin history because of the Avro Arrow? Come on, and you should probably change the last one to "Understood economics enough to do better with the economy then the actual conservatives."

AS to OP, any good Canadian's vote goes to Mulrooney, just an incompetent US Brown Noser

 

[SodaDew]

hmmm, well I would say Bill Clinton, L.B.J, I would pick a pre-depression president but I don't know much on them.

(Also, Reagan was my favorite)

 

[jimbob123432]

Prime Minister John Diefenbaker. He was a horrible example of what happens when a man with no vision is elected to public office. Under him, the Avro Arrow program was cancelled. This put Canada into a position of being even further dependent on US military tech than we already were.

Brian Mulroney. The deficit tripled under the rule of this silver tongued cretin. He also signed the free trade agreement with the US which saw more money go south than before. Consumer goods got a bit cheaper but at the cost of losing domestically owned manufacturing and retail. Finally he left the party just in time to allow his successor to get slapped with the natural result of the scandals he had built up over 9 years.

Stephen Harper the man who took us from surplus budgets to deficits within a year, used massive government spending programs to directly promote his own party and is pushing harder than any previous leader to turn Canada into a war mongering state.

Honorable mention to Pierre Trudeau and Paul Martin for not understanding economics and ripping their own parties to tatters respectively.

Leave Dief the Chief alone! He cut a lot of useless government spending. As for making us more dependent on the US's tech, I have to refute that. A lot of the tech our military uses does come from the US but that's just because their military industrial complex is much bigger than it ought to be and they supply the world with their tech. We supply raw materials, they supply tech, it's a give and take system that wouldn't exist if we were still spending tons of money on military tech. Except for the Avro Arrow program, which is what I assume you're talking about. He should have kept that around.

I agree with the rest of your choices though. I would have added Ignatieff for his almost complete destruction of the Liberal party, but that's just me.

OT:Any socialist, leftist, communist parti leader. They are all evil scumbags who should be shot and strung up.

Now, why ya gotta be like that? There are a bunch of good socialist leaders out there. The late Jack Layton was an excellent party leader and his protegee is looking good so far. Pratibha Patil of India's doing alright. James Michel from the Seychelles hasn't done anything wrong. Hugo Chavez isn't the greatest, but at least his people like him...

 

[Kinokohatake]

Obama, Bush Jr, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter....well let's just say it goes back a long way for me.

 

[jklinders]

Prime Minister John Diefenbaker. He was a horrible example of what happens when a man with no vision is elected to public office. Under him, the Avro Arrow program was cancelled. This put Canada into a position of being even further dependent on US military tech than we already were.

Brian Mulroney. The deficit tripled under the rule of this silver tongued cretin. He also signed the free trade agreement with the US which saw more money go south than before. Consumer goods got a bit cheaper but at the cost of losing domestically owned manufacturing and retail. Finally he left the party just in time to allow his successor to get slapped with the natural result of the scandals he had built up over 9 years.

Stephen Harper the man who took us from surplus budgets to deficits within a year, used massive government spending programs to directly promote his own party and is pushing harder than any previous leader to turn Canada into a war mongering state.

Honorable mention to Pierre Trudeau and Paul Martin for not understanding economics and ripping their own parties to tatters respectively.

WE GOTS A SUPER LIB HERE

Your really think the last decent conservative prime minister was the worsts tin history because of the Avro Arrow? Come on, and you should probably change the last one to "Understood economics enough to do better with the economy then the actual conservatives."

AS to OP, any good Canadian's vote goes to Mulrooney, just an incompetent US Brown Noser

Bzzzzzzzzzzz I'm sorry. That is incorrect. I never voted liberal in my life.

Dief's bad policy decisions and extremely poor relations to the US along with cancelling domestic defense policy initiatives are a pretty clear indication that this man had very little idea of Canada's place in North America. Basically an economic and military bulwark between the US and the former Soviet Union. The idiot nearly got us kicked out of NATO for his refusal to allow US nukes into Canada. How long would we have remained independent without their support during the cold war?

Anyway don't make any assumptions about my leanings based on my dislike of certain political leaders. It's better that way.

 

[jklinders]

Prime Minister John Diefenbaker. He was a horrible example of what happens when a man with no vision is elected to public office. Under him, the Avro Arrow program was cancelled. This put Canada into a position of being even further dependent on US military tech than we already were.

Brian Mulroney. The deficit tripled under the rule of this silver tongued cretin. He also signed the free trade agreement with the US which saw more money go south than before. Consumer goods got a bit cheaper but at the cost of losing domestically owned manufacturing and retail. Finally he left the party just in time to allow his successor to get slapped with the natural result of the scandals he had built up over 9 years.

Stephen Harper the man who took us from surplus budgets to deficits within a year, used massive government spending programs to directly promote his own party and is pushing harder than any previous leader to turn Canada into a war mongering state.

Honorable mention to Pierre Trudeau and Paul Martin for not understanding economics and ripping their own parties to tatters respectively.

Leave Dief the Chief alone! He cut a lot of useless government spending. As for making us more dependent on the US's tech, I have to refute that. A lot of the tech our military uses does come from the US but that's just because their military industrial complex is much bigger than it ought to be and they supply the world with their tech. We supply raw materials, they supply tech, it's a give and take system that wouldn't exist if we were still spending tons of money on military tech. Except for the Avro Arrow program, which is what I assume you're talking about. He should have kept that around.

I agree with the rest of your choices though. I would have added Ignatieff for his almost complete destruction of the Liberal party, but that's just me.

We undervalue our resources a little too much for my taste.

Iggy would be on the list number one. But he actually needed to be elected as our nation' leader first. I think that was soundly rebuffed last year.

 

[doggy go 7]

Thatcher, thatcher, thatcher and thatcher. I don't really need to say more, except perhaps that it is a shame that the only female prime minister that we've ever had was also the worst PM we've ever had.

 

[MasterOfHisOwnDomain]

Oliver Cromwell, he was a puritanical Christian nutcase. His invasion of mainland Ireland bordered on ethnic cleansing and thousands where butchered during the campaign.

I'm now arguing for Cromwell in two separate threads on these forums. What has my life become ...? Anyway, as much as you're titled to your opinion:

Cromwell attempted to deliver widespread Parliamentary reforms that wouldn't be witnessed again until the Great Reform Act of 1832. His religious tolerance was astounding for the time - the Cavalier Parliament that came subsequently reversed this in the most disastrous ways. His foreign policy established England as one of the foremost military powers in Europe for a brief time - again Charles II would lose this quickly. He was a principled man, and highly religious - but no "nutcase".

 

[jimbob123432]

Prime Minister John Diefenbaker. He was a horrible example of what happens when a man with no vision is elected to public office. Under him, the Avro Arrow program was cancelled. This put Canada into a position of being even further dependent on US military tech than we already were.

Brian Mulroney. The deficit tripled under the rule of this silver tongued cretin. He also signed the free trade agreement with the US which saw more money go south than before. Consumer goods got a bit cheaper but at the cost of losing domestically owned manufacturing and retail. Finally he left the party just in time to allow his successor to get slapped with the natural result of the scandals he had built up over 9 years.

Stephen Harper the man who took us from surplus budgets to deficits within a year, used massive government spending programs to directly promote his own party and is pushing harder than any previous leader to turn Canada into a war mongering state.

Honorable mention to Pierre Trudeau and Paul Martin for not understanding economics and ripping their own parties to tatters respectively.

Leave Dief the Chief alone! He cut a lot of useless government spending. As for making us more dependent on the US's tech, I have to refute that. A lot of the tech our military uses does come from the US but that's just because their military industrial complex is much bigger than it ought to be and they supply the world with their tech. We supply raw materials, they supply tech, it's a give and take system that wouldn't exist if we were still spending tons of money on military tech. Except for the Avro Arrow program, which is what I assume you're talking about. He should have kept that around.

I agree with the rest of your choices though. I would have added Ignatieff for his almost complete destruction of the Liberal party, but that's just me.

We undervalue our resources a little too much for my taste.

Iggy would be on the list number one. But he actually needed to be elected as our nation' leader first. I think that was soundly rebuffed last year.

Meh, to each his own about resources, but the OP did ask for leaders not just elected ones, so that's why I mentioned Iggy

 

[Major_Tom]

A Nazi collaborator, traitor, mass murderer and a coward. He was a bigger quisling than the actual Quisling.

 

[MetalDooley]

His religious tolerance was astounding for the time

Unless you happened to be an Irish Catholic