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he had backstory, it was just explained later on in the game. I do, however, nominate him becasue the whole time playing that game I couldn't shake the feeling it was a glorified fetch quest and a bit of a XIII knock off (man has amnesia, man has flashbacks, man shoots everything but that's as far as it goes)KidSampson said:
I really hated Shu from Blue Dragon, him and his stupid "I won't give up!" Line that he just won't stop saying...
For me it went like this...
Shu: I Won't Give Up!
Me: Goddamn, there's no context for that statement, your just saying it because it sound determined and meaningful but theres no REASON WHY it's determined or meaningful, it sounds like you just tacked it on to make him more "main charactery"
I also hated Vaan from FFXII, I was WAAAAYYY more interested in Ashe, Basche, Balthier and Fran and I'm stuck playing this little *****? Goddamn.
Though the worst character ever, in any game...
Is Johnny "Irritating worthless mother fucker" Garland from Shadow Hearts: From the New World. They replaced Yuri, the most awesome RPG lead EVER with this little fucker? He's an annoying amnesiatic fucktard, why should I care about him? Oh wait, there's no story, so it doesn't matter.
For me it went like this...
Shu: I Won't Give Up!
Me: Goddamn, there's no context for that statement, your just saying it because it sound determined and meaningful but theres no REASON WHY it's determined or meaningful, it sounds like you just tacked it on to make him more "main charactery"
I also hated Vaan from FFXII, I was WAAAAYYY more interested in Ashe, Basche, Balthier and Fran and I'm stuck playing this little *****? Goddamn.
Though the worst character ever, in any game...
Is Johnny "Irritating worthless mother fucker" Garland from Shadow Hearts: From the New World. They replaced Yuri, the most awesome RPG lead EVER with this little fucker? He's an annoying amnesiatic fucktard, why should I care about him? Oh wait, there's no story, so it doesn't matter.
Don't get me started on the amnesia thing, if you were to discount ever game where the lead character has amnesia that'd be about half of gaming's back catalogue. But I'd just point out that BioShock is the sort-of-sequel to system shock 2, which was the proper sequel to system shock, which pretty much started the whole "main character has amnesia" trend, so I'm prepared to forgive it. And system shock was pre-XIII, although wasn't XIII based on a comic book or something? And was that before or after system shock? Either way I don't think XIII was their main point of reference.the monopoly guy said:
More importantly, when the back story is explained, not only is it awesome but also is probably the best and most interesting explanation for his amnesia I've ever seen, not to mention the best explanation for the main character following the instructions of some dude he's never met.
He wasn't that bad, although he was kind of a pussy, but he wasn't too bad, and he gets his redemption in MGS4.mechsword42 said:
The reason amnesa is such a cliché is that it's the perfect 'blank slate' on which to craft your own ideas of the character. So many of these characters (like the silent protagonist) are clichés because the idea works. The one's we tend to hate are where they try something different which fails (like Squall or Cloud depending on your opinion).
I'm going to defend Tidus, yeah he's an annoying brat with daddy issues, but he's an annoying brat with daddy issues who becomes less annoying and grows up considerably throughout the game.
EDIT: Cloud was one of the first amnesiatic characters, so I'll be fair to him. The Guardian Force Amnesia in Final Fantasy 8 was the stupidest thing ever.
EDIT: Cloud was one of the first amnesiatic characters, so I'll be fair to him. The Guardian Force Amnesia in Final Fantasy 8 was the stupidest thing ever.
Okay firstly Master Cheif, and all the other stereotypical FPS generated "super badasses" can all go die in a hole, squall was a whiny emo ***** and deserves to suffer for it, Link has no character development same as samus aran and are both horrible characters, but no one even mentioned the kingdom hearts I version of sora, the faceless light warriors, or my personal favorite the naruto games and all there inbred children of stupidity.
Good characters are ones such as DMC3's Dante, Garnet and Freya from FFIX, Riku from kingdom hearts, and then there are the supporting characters in the half life series which you actually give a shit about (eli vance, alyx, barney, ect.), sephiroth and vincent valentine(not the dige of cerberus verrsion), zero and bass from the megaman series, then one of my favorites Gaz from COD4, most of the characters i have listed have actual realism in there characters and don't have an epiphany and change all at once it is a gradual process that makes them seem like actual people, the develiopment in these characters is well written thats why the other's i listed suck
Good characters are ones such as DMC3's Dante, Garnet and Freya from FFIX, Riku from kingdom hearts, and then there are the supporting characters in the half life series which you actually give a shit about (eli vance, alyx, barney, ect.), sephiroth and vincent valentine(not the dige of cerberus verrsion), zero and bass from the megaman series, then one of my favorites Gaz from COD4, most of the characters i have listed have actual realism in there characters and don't have an epiphany and change all at once it is a gradual process that makes them seem like actual people, the develiopment in these characters is well written thats why the other's i listed suck
With FF7 weighing in at a full 4 years after system shock, I'd go as far as to say that's not true.PedroSteckecilo said:
Squall made me dislike FF8 so much I actually didn't want to finish the game. That and the fact that for some Godforsaken reason, it was as boring as anything to play. I never quite managed to put my finger on what it was. Maybe it was just that Squall was such an utter dick.
"I've got some candy, Squall! Would you like some?"
"..."
"Oh no! A lost little puppy!"
"..."
"Oh no, Squall! Everyone ever has died apart from us!"
"..."
WHAT'S FUCKING WRONG WITH YOU!?
He probably got better but I couldn't give a shit.
Any RPG game where the main character NEVER TALKS - his personality is exposed through other characters and to be honest, that's almost laziness on the designer's part
"I've got some candy, Squall! Would you like some?"
"..."
"Oh no! A lost little puppy!"
"..."
"Oh no, Squall! Everyone ever has died apart from us!"
"..."
WHAT'S FUCKING WRONG WITH YOU!?
He probably got better but I couldn't give a shit.
Any RPG game where the main character NEVER TALKS - his personality is exposed through other characters and to be honest, that's almost laziness on the designer's part
I like Link. understandably it's hard to 'connect' with him as a person, but you're meant to be him, not be interested by his story.
Whatsisface from Prey. Starts off mooning over the object of his affection, which isn't so bad. Then he tells his awesome grandfather to go f*** himself and *beats two men to death with a wrench* while love interest begs him to stop for (and this is probably a disconnect between the animators and the script writer) making some dirty comments to her from the other side of the bar. Not five minutes later he's berating said love interest for praying too loudly as they're about to be fed to an ornate alien sausage-making machine. I don't see you coming up with any better ideas, arse-head.
Prey has one of the most honest-to-God interesting opening sequences I've ever seen in an FPS, and if it didn't all kick off around such an enormous cock of a main character I'd probably have been completely blown away by it. As things stand when the dude got capped by some alien grunts running along the walls I found I didn't care enough to start from the last save point or go through the "nice idea, WTF execution" rebirth ritual and promptly quit out and uninstalled the game.
I actually like Master Chief, at least in the first Halo game. He's a straightforward soldier. He's not quirky. He's not rebellious. He takes his orders without 'witty' comment and Gets Shit Done. I approve wholeheartedly.
-Nick
Prey has one of the most honest-to-God interesting opening sequences I've ever seen in an FPS, and if it didn't all kick off around such an enormous cock of a main character I'd probably have been completely blown away by it. As things stand when the dude got capped by some alien grunts running along the walls I found I didn't care enough to start from the last save point or go through the "nice idea, WTF execution" rebirth ritual and promptly quit out and uninstalled the game.
I actually like Master Chief, at least in the first Halo game. He's a straightforward soldier. He's not quirky. He's not rebellious. He takes his orders without 'witty' comment and Gets Shit Done. I approve wholeheartedly.
-Nick
Thank you! I honestly don't give a shit about charecter development if the games are good.TheGreenManalishi said:
I have one that tops 'em all; Ya ready? ...AWESOME POSSUM! HA!laikenf said: