Would this kill a zombie?

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Alex_P

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noobs. you use a katana or a foil, if you absolutely must get in close. both excelent zombie killing weapons. and the katana excelent for a zombie apocalype scenario, because IIRC the design was such that they did not need sharpening, and were measued by how many bodies they cut through cleanly (the good ones were 5-i got stuck on the history channel). i would have to say a good ol fashioned katana if you MUST kill zombies with melee weapons-and no, dont say "but i dont have one at my house" because im pretty damn sure i dont have a sword made out of daimonds.

an alternative being a foil, but only if you previously did a LOT of fencing. good peircing weapon and super-light.

but even better... flaming lightsaber
Katanas definitely require sharpening. There's a whole fancy Japanese hand-sharpening procedure. Swords don't lose their edge easily but they still need maintenance from time to time. Moreover, you've got to keep the thing clean (for a katana this includes occasionally breaking the glue that holds the scabbard together and cleaning off the inside, too).

The weapon is a good compromise between length and lightness, but an unskilled survivor is going to be using it like a baseball bat, anyway, which will likely be just as tiring. (And unskilled survival is also much more likely to find a piece-of-shit super-fake katana than anything actually worth using.)

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A foil isn't really a combat weapon. Everything about them is engineered for sporting use. These things are several generations removed from any kind of weapon that was even remotely meant to cause wounds. Sure, any pointy metal thing can be dangerous -- that's why fencers wear the suits and hoods. Even then, against an opponent who can't be distracted by pain, the ability to poke and prod and gouge just isn't very useful. If you find a sporting goods store you're way better off just going for a hockey stick or a baseball bat (or, y'know, guns if it's got those -- not to mention survival gear and food).

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hebdomad said:
Well I've heard the best blades are carbon (or diamond) tipped titanium.
Gives the best of both worlds.

For a hammer, I'm sure you'd just want something heavy (since your crushing things) so how about carbon coated depleted uranium?

Diamond tipped hammer... now where have I seen that before? hmmmm....
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No point. Good steel is good enough.

Any kind of "hammer" that's not a historical pole weapon is also too short for reliable zombie combat. There's also the problem of heavy things adding to your carried weight and tiring you out with each swing.

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Alex_P is right. Just anything blunt really. Guns would be a bad idea cause you would need to reload, plus they make alot noise which would actually attract more zombies.
 

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Shiuz91 said:
Both weapons are bad against zombies. If you can get with arms length of the zombie you're too close.
If you don't live in exploding-head-world, your options for a ranged takedown are somewhat limited, aren't they? (Unless you sell the diamond sword and buy a magic shotgun that shoots head-seeking missiles, of course.) Are there easily-obtainable firearms that can be counted on to blow the cerebellum out of a zombie's head?

dead_beat_slacker said:
Alex_P is right. Just anything blunt really. Guns would be a bad idea cause you would need to reload, plus they make alot noise which would actually attract more zombies.
I think sharp can be good, too -- a well-built heavy sharp thing is basically a heavy blunt thing that also concentrates the force, after all. If "you've gotta hit them in the head" really means "you've gotta trash their zombie heads completely", then the key thing is really to get something absolutely brutal -- you're trying to destroy flesh, not cause lethal injury to a human being. Like I said, kaiser blade.

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The answers to all these questions and more can be found in the book "Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks" He reckons the best anti-zombie weapon is the trench club, it's just they're hard to come by, but I'm sure you could get one made.
 

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Since this is all theory I'm going to insert another tidbit that you've all seemed to have forgotten ... Zombies have a DR 5/slashing (3.5 D&D) therefore the sword would be a better choice of melee weapon.

Personally i don't plan on getting into a melee situation with zombie, or zombie horde. I plan to stay snuggly on a boat with my ranged armed friends and if need be use a crowbar. Diamonds wouldn't dull but there's just something classic about a crowbar.
 

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Mercanary57 said:
Okay the way that we kill zombies is by destroying the brain.
So we started talking about weapons that would be most effective against this type of zombie.
I brought up a sword made entirely out of diamonds considering that diamonds are the hardest known material and most likely could easily destroy a skull.
Brandon however said that it was brittle and could not do such a thing and that a hammer would serve better.
So how was right? Me or Brandon?
Which weapon would actually not suck?
A virus, bacteria or parasite that attacks brain cells
 

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How useful do you think a Batleth would be?



I bought one from some dodgey internet site. It's not an official Star Trek on, since it's made of steel and it razor sharp.
I was actually slightly horrified that it had an actual razor sharp blade on it, considering the size and deadliness of this fictional weapon. I mean not even 'real' Klingons on Star Trek use metal ones with actual blades.

I've used it to slice through a rock hard turnip like paper, and it also chopped a broom handle effortlessly just by blocking a strike, so I'd imagine it would be quite effective against a zombie, both offensively & defensively.
 

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When dealing with zombies, I have just three words: Rocket [http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j96/Logicone/RocketPropelledChainsaw.jpg] Propelled [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Artwork2/ImageD.jpg] Chainsaw. [http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8545/gmconstruct0014mj1.jpg]
 

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Ultrajoe said:
Chainsword.

If it works on Plague marines, it will work on zombies.
Chainsword or lightning claw + assault cannon=win

EDIT: I would use a steel katana over a diamond one as it would be lighter and easier to clean and sharpen.
 

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i skipped a few pages, but there is a distinction between hardness and strength.

diamond is hard.

steel is strong.

You wouldn't build a building out of diamond-- even with supply and cost limits overcome-- because it doesn't have the structural properties to support serious weight.



I've often wondered about a zombie's brain weakness. Most of the brain would have to be dead, a zombie only has its most primal instincts functioning. Mostly a desire to eat people. But it can run and walk. So that means only the brain stem is functioning, so the region where the skull meets the neck is the weak spot, and even lobotomizing (with a shotgun to the face) could leave the brain stem intact and functional.
 

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Okay, being a true nerd I have to point out that the only precious stone that would make any sort of serviable blade is ruby , which would only work for a knife, and nothing longer. (It'd look damned awesome though)

Diamond, or crystal or whatever other thing you find is like glass. Sure, Diamond is really hard, but bend it just one degree (or something, depending on size) and it'll shatter into a million pieces. Ruby on the other hand can bend, not much, but it can. It's not as hard as diamond, but it doesn't have to be either. Compare it with wood, if you want. Oak is really hard. But it doesn't bend well, you can easily break it across you knee. Then try the same with willow. You'll notice nothing happens, it just bends around your knee and returns to it's previous shape (if I have my translations correct, I think it's willow). The effect with ruby and diamond aren't that exaggeratted, but the principle is the same.

If you really want to kill a zombie in close combat though, I propose an axe. You could use a sledge, yes, and it'd be effective, but very tiring. With an axe though you have a lot of weight, concentrated to a very, very thin point. Excellent for splitting things open (proven by cutting wood with it), and not that heavy, compared to a sledge. A sword might be more versatile against a human foe, and lighter, but you need to hit much harder with it to pierce a skull and damage the brain below. A small hammer works well too, but you don't really want to get that close.

Personally, I'd see about getting a pretty short axe with a small head, so that it's lightweight. I'd also get myself a police shield, and put on both a gambe and some chain. Both keeping the zombies from biting you, and having a nice weapon to bash their heads with.

Oh, and yeah, you would kill A (singular) zombie with a diamond sword. You wouldn't kill anyone else though, because the first one would break it.
 

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Ultrajoe said:
Chainsword.
BAM that's all we need, although if it was on fire too it would work better.

Also what's with this idea of diamonds being brittle? They're bloody diamonds, you know hardest thing on the planet?

Fraeir said:
Diamond Katana < Diamond Sword
Warhammer/Mace < Hammer
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I think you messed up your signs there, coz < means less than. Although I agree on the katana < sword bit. Not sure where people get the whole "katanaz r sooo kewl gaiz!" thing.
 

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id prefer killing them with a baseball bat.. haha its a fun way of killing them.. anyway they're already dead right.. so does this mean they're double dead? hahaha
 

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Jamash said:
How useful do you think a Batleth would be?
Batleths kinda suck in general, just by nature of their design. That's because they're big but have rather short reach.

I guess it would be better than some improvised weapons.

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Mercanary57 said:
Okay the way that we kill zombies is by destroying the brain.
So we started talking about weapons that would be most effective against this type of zombie.
I brought up a sword made entirely out of diamonds considering that diamonds are the hardest known material and most likely could easily destroy a skull.
Brandon however said that it was brittle and could not do such a thing and that a hammer would serve better.
So how was right? Me or Brandon?
Which weapon would actually not suck?
Ill meet in the middle, an axe would be perfect(made from diamonds OC)