would you ever become vegan?

[MetroidNut]

With regards to ethical concerns, I consider eating other animals to be an entirely natural part of the food chain. As for the health concerns, well, I've a personal philosophy that it's better to live happy than long.

So no. I would never become a vegan, or vegetarian for that matter.

 

[lacktheknack]

No way. TRUE veganism goes as far as not cooking anything, and that's really hard on the digestive system.

Plus, there's all kinds of great vitamins and minerals and flavanoids and fats in animal products that are really hard to find in vegetables. You're cutting yourself off from animal protein, for example, which is much more effective at muscle-building than soy protein.

Besides, if you stop me from drinking mah milk, I will CLUB you.

yeah, milk .... that's literally the hardest part man XD

but you can get alot of proteins from other plants, not just soy

Animal protein is still the best for bodybuilding.

And that's just one. It's really hard to find, for example, Omega-3 in plants outside of flax.

Again, just my two cents. Veganism won't kill you, it just isn't the best choice.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

Give up bacon? Cereal? Pankcakes? Sausage? Eggs?

I wouldn't be able to eat breakfast, and eat tasty meat?

Hell no.

And being vegan doesn't mean you're healthy. Protein and fats are needed for a healthy body.

 

[thethingthatlurks]

No way. TRUE veganism goes as far as not cooking anything, and that's really hard on the digestive system.

Besides, if you stop me from drinking mah milk, I will CLUB you.

No, raw-foodism has nothing to do with veganism.

I've tried that once, and lost way too much weight. I guess it is feasible, but that sort of diet requires a lot of planning. I'm gonna stick to my vegetarianism sans milk.
I also hate how honey is somehow excluded from a vegan diet. It's baffled me for a while, but I guess I would just ignore that particular restriction should I take it up again.

 

[lacktheknack]

No way. TRUE veganism goes as far as not cooking anything, and that's really hard on the digestive system.

Besides, if you stop me from drinking mah milk, I will CLUB you.

No, raw-foodism has nothing to do with veganism.

I've tried that once, and lost way too much weight. I guess it is feasible, but that sort of diet requires a lot of planning. I'm gonna stick to my vegetarianism sans milk.
I also hate how honey is somehow excluded from a vegan diet. It's baffled me for a while, but I guess I would just ignore that particular restriction should I take it up again.

The original definition I heard of "Veganism" was raw food only... blame "Owl Magazine". :|

 

[SsilverR]

No.
In old times, Soldiers and travalers had to resort to nuts and stuff like that, it was apparently a good short term alternitive to Meat. But protien is something that keeps you healthy, protien found in meat, meat tastes better than protien supliments. MEAT WINS!

Yeah but that's a survival situation ... like i said, i'm vegan because i can afford to be.
also there are many ways to get good amounts of protein from plants and vegan food .. i know some vegans in my boxing class that have been doing it for years and are ripppped with lyk ... zero body fat .. also full of energy and they just look healthy ... there are ufc fighters that are vegan

 

[thethingthatlurks]

Sorry but going Vegan is actually pretty bad for you, the health benefits (if there are any) are probebly offset by the fact that we kind of need protiens and fats to survive, or at least stay healthy, I'm not gonna tell a vegan to "eat a fucking burger" but if your diet requires you at any point to take supplements or count out the protien level in the nuts you just ate, something is not right there.

Uhm, that's a load of crap. Soy protein is complete, so you can live on that. Plus beans, grains, nuts, etc contain all the nutrients you need. A vegan diet can be perfectly healthy, but requires bit of planning.

 

[Wharrgarble]

Can't say I ever would.

Eating a well-balanced diet is what keeps us healthy.

 

[SsilverR]

No way. TRUE veganism goes as far as not cooking anything, and that's really hard on the digestive system.

Plus, there's all kinds of great vitamins and minerals and flavanoids and fats in animal products that are really hard to find in vegetables. You're cutting yourself off from animal protein, for example, which is much more effective at muscle-building than soy protein.

Besides, if you stop me from drinking mah milk, I will CLUB you.

yeah, milk .... that's literally the hardest part man XD

but you can get alot of proteins from other plants, not just soy

Animal protein is still the best for bodybuilding.

And that's just one. It's really hard to find, for example, Omega-3 in plants outside of flax.

Again, just my two cents. Veganism won't kill you, it just isn't the best choice.

screw body building, that's dead muscle to me .. as i said in my last post .. there are people from my boxing club that have been vegan for years and they're some of the best fighters in my club, they look healthy and there are even ufc fighters that are vegan.

muscles from body building is just mass, the true muscles you get from real excersises count

 

[SsilverR]

Give up bacon? Cereal? Pankcakes? Sausage? Eggs?

I wouldn't be able to eat breakfast, and eat tasty meat?

Hell no.

And being vegan doesn't mean you're healthy. Protein and fats are needed for a healthy body.

you can get all the protein/fats you need from greens

 

[thethingthatlurks]

No way. TRUE veganism goes as far as not cooking anything, and that's really hard on the digestive system.

Besides, if you stop me from drinking mah milk, I will CLUB you.

No, raw-foodism has nothing to do with veganism.

I've tried that once, and lost way too much weight. I guess it is feasible, but that sort of diet requires a lot of planning. I'm gonna stick to my vegetarianism sans milk.
I also hate how honey is somehow excluded from a vegan diet. It's baffled me for a while, but I guess I would just ignore that particular restriction should I take it up again.

The original definition I heard of "Veganism" was raw food only... blame "Owl Magazine". :|

The overlap between raw-foodists and vegans is probably greater than of any other dietary choice, but they aren't necessarily connected. 'course, raw foodists are idiots, and their diet is quite unhealthy >>

 

[moretimethansense]

Sorry but going Vegan is actually pretty bad for you, the health benefits (if there are any) are probebly offset by the fact that we kind of need protiens and fats to survive, or at least stay healthy, I'm not gonna tell a vegan to "eat a fucking burger" but if your diet requires you at any point to take supplements or count out the protien level in the nuts you just ate, something is not right there.

Uhm, that's a load of crap. Soy protein is complete, so you can live on that. Plus beans, grains, nuts, etc contain all the nutrients you need. A vegan diet can be perfectly healthy, but requires bit of planning.

To get soy protein you have to extract it though don't you?
Not really something you'd find in a natural diet, and as I said without that planning you'd be pretty much fucked, at any rate if you wajt to do it then fine, I'm not gonna stop you, but it still isn't a natural diet by any means.

 

[rubinigosa]

No, because...well...chocolate,candy,milk,bacon,salmon,ice cream and more ice cream and mostly all things except fruit that I think taste good and also I have heard something about that it messes with your digestive system.

 

[HT_Black]

Mm...no. No. Not even a little bit. Humans eat meat for a reason; and, in my opinion, it's not exactly a good idea to pick an idealogical fight with God.

 

[SsilverR]

wow .. seems a few dudes think vegans only eat raw rabbit food ... there's a huuuge selection of cooked foods from many different cultures that people indulge in vegan or not

no food is boring when done right

 

[DefunctTheory]

Mm...no. No. Not even a little bit. Humans eat meat for a reason; and, in my opinion, it's not exactly a good idea to pick an ideological fight with God.

Wait, what?

 

[katsumoto03]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but a truly vegan diet is far less healthy than a normal (healthy), omnivorous diet.

Personally? No. I find that veganism tends to be for douchebag hipsters, and people who actually believe it makes a difference. Doing it because you can is fucking stupid.

 

[AmbitiousWorm]

Vegetables?? That's what food eats.

No way I could ever be a vegan. Dead animal is my favorite. Also I wouldn't have the self control or discipline to make it to the point where I got used to not eating meat or other animal harming things.

Also it depends on the person whether being a vegetarian/vegan works for them and their health. I know people who tried for years to be vegetarians and they just couldn't get enough protein and such from non-meat products.

 

[Evil Moo]

I have come to the conclusion that there is no reason to become vegan or vegetarian other than that animals feel pain (which can be prevented to the point of insignificance anyway), medical reasons that might prevent certain food being eaten safely, or simply personal preference for that particular diet.

I am not inclined to place what seem to me to be arbitrary restrictions on what I consume. It would only make my life more difficult and make eating a balanced diet incredibly challenging.

 

[thethingthatlurks]

Sorry but going Vegan is actually pretty bad for you, the health benefits (if there are any) are probebly offset by the fact that we kind of need protiens and fats to survive, or at least stay healthy, I'm not gonna tell a vegan to "eat a fucking burger" but if your diet requires you at any point to take supplements or count out the protien level in the nuts you just ate, something is not right there.

Uhm, that's a load of crap. Soy protein is complete, so you can live on that. Plus beans, grains, nuts, etc contain all the nutrients you need. A vegan diet can be perfectly healthy, but requires bit of planning.

To get soy protein you have to extract it though don't you?
Not really something you'd find in a natural diet, and as I said without that planning you'd be pretty much fucked, at any rate if you wajt to do it then fine, I'm not gonna stop you, but it still isn't a natural diet by any means.

Load of crap part 2:
Soy are a type of beans, ergo each bean contains all necessary amino acids. You could eat them raw (if you have a grudge against your teeth), and still get all of those goody-goody nutrients. It is 100% natural, although speaking as a chemist I find the assertion that something is "unnatural" rather hilarious. No extractions are necessary, although if you do first grind them up, add water, mush it up, and then magnesium chloride or calcium sulfate, you get tofu. Hmm, tofu... Anyway, I guess that's the extraction you were referring to.