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KingofallCosmos

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I think a lot of people don't really know what they're buying; there's energy drinks, drinks with herbal supplements, added vitamins, etc.
I notice when my father tries to buy a soft drink he might get everything from malt beer to aloe vera based drinks (ugh).

Unless they are aware of course. I remember seeing a doc where a mother was feeding a Mcdonalds burger to a 6 month old child.
 

Ocealot

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Chris646 said:
Ocealot said:
yes its wrong. But i dont understand. why would you give a child caffine I mean the longer they're asleep the better.
But the caffeine makes them stay awake longer

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Yes, it's wrong to give that much condensed caffeine to a small child.
I think you misread my post
 

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Rawne1980 said:
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For instance I have kids and if I want to give one of them an energy drink then I will do, what business is it of yours?
Ofc it's our business its a child after all.
Children are our future after all.
Something like this can be considered harmful to your child and you are meant to care for the child.
The child would not fully understand what is happening or why he should or shouldn't drink.
If its your body then what you do with it is fine, but children need to be taken care of and that why its everyone business.


OT: Yes a person who does such a thing is bad as it doesn't serve any useful purpose that I know of.
 

Chris646

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Ocealot said:
Chris646 said:
Ocealot said:
yes its wrong. But i dont understand. why would you give a child caffine I mean the longer they're asleep the better.
But the caffeine makes them stay awake longer

OT:
Yes, it's wrong to give that much condensed caffeine to a small child.
I think you misread my post
Yes. It seems I did. Whoops.
 

aei_haruko

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sure, acid and sugar galore, what a great idea to give a kid that, she has the right to, but it's not too bright
 

Blow_Pop

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That is too much caffeine to give to a child. Those drinks aren't even good for adults why on earth would you give an energy drink of any kind to a child?
 

William Ossiss

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monster is also highly addictive. when drinking your first can, you range from "this is gross" to "this is delicious" only after a few sips. the energy high you get from your first can of said energy drink is pretty huge. it is also addicting as hell. i remember when id go through an 8 pack a day. id wake up, be unable to move until i had a can of monster.

it should also be noted that the label says "limit three cans per day. should not be consumed by children, pregnant women, or people sensitive to caffeine". I'll assume red bull doesn't have that sort of label, but it still shouldn't be consumed by children.
 

Da Orky Man

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Esotera said:
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I remember a doctor saying that children under 12 should never be given caffeine, and this source seems to back it up: http://www.diethealthclub.com/caffeine/caffeine-and-children.html

Dehydration and an increased heart rate can't be good. It's definitely wrong, and if it's occurring regularly then it probably borders on neglect.
Although I completely agree with you, given that it affects the heart-rate of children much more because they simply have less blood, everyone make one mistake.
Energy drinks DON'T DEHYDRATE YOU!
Technically, the ingredients do, but at most of the drink is actually water. It hydrates you.

Part of my war against scientific ignorance.
Interesting. The amount of water in an energy drink could be considered about the same volume in the can, and the amount of water lost by drinking that could probably be calculated by finding the caffeine intake. I'm not sure what to think. Have you got any sources to back that claim up?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html?_r=1

http://journals.lww.com/acsm-essr/pages/articleviewer.aspxyear=2007&issue=07000&article=00008&type=abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12187618

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19774754

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/559762_2

I'm very thorough. And there is 80mg of caffeine in a 250ml can of Red Bull.
 

Riff Moonraker

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yesterday i saw a woman opening and giving a can of red bull to a child in a pram, i just thought it was wrong to be giving such a small child that kind of beverage or am i being old hat and prudish ?
There are certainly warning signs on the energy drinks that warn against that, and being a consumer of Monster energy drinks, I can say without a doubt that you shouldnt be giving them to children. It IS dangerous.
 

Gitty101

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But - there be a warnin' on the side of the can ya' know? It's not going to do that child any good having an energy drink - caffeine is only half the problem. There are so many other chemicals in Red Bull simply not designed with children in mind...
 

KoalaKid

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I don't think it would be healthy for a little kid to drink that stuff so yeah it's wrong, but it's a small fault in comparison to other things that could be happening.
 

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jusplainrob said:
yesterday i saw a woman opening and giving a can of red bull to a child in a pram, i just thought it was wrong to be giving such a small child that kind of beverage or am i being old hat and prudish ?
What's a pram?

On a serious note: yes, taurine, guarana and all of that other stuff is bad for you. It's bad for adults, so it's damned sure bad for kids. Let me ask you this: would you give a small child a triple-shot of espresso? If you answered no, then you most definitely shouldn't give them a red bull.

Mom's probably not abusive but rather neglectful due to her own ignorance.
 

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it's her child so she can do with it what she wants
second
1 red bull won't kill the kid
there are a lot of other kids who get more caffeine through cola than one would get with a single red bull
 

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Well it certainly isn't good for the child, caffeine and kids don't really mix. On the other hand though, it's only 1 drink, unless the woman is giving the kid one every single day then it really isn't gonna affect him that much
 

Haukur Isleifsson

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Rawne1980 said:
Curious as to how many people commenting here or the OP himself have kids of your own.

I've seen a lot of threads with people saying what you should or shouldn't give to a kid and only a very small percentage have children of their own.

For instance I have kids and if I want to give one of them an energy drink then I will do, what business is it of yours?
And if you wan't to give it some alcohol? Or a cigarette? I mean it's you child after all. Why not just beat it with a stick?

I'm sorry if I sound really out of line and aggressive but this attitude really pisses me off. The child is not something you own and can do what ever you like to. It is the responsibility of society to protect those that can't protect themselves, such as the child. Even if that means protecting it from it's own parents.
 

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I'm the kind of person who'd have approached her and asked if she understood the healthrisks.

Then if she refused to ignore me I'd call child protective services.

Children that small need to be looked after by competent parents and I'm a meddling fool.
 

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Haukur Isleifsson said:
Rawne1980 said:
Curious as to how many people commenting here or the OP himself have kids of your own.

I've seen a lot of threads with people saying what you should or shouldn't give to a kid and only a very small percentage have children of their own.

For instance I have kids and if I want to give one of them an energy drink then I will do, what business is it of yours?
And if you wan't to give it some alcohol? Or a cigarette? I mean it's you child after all. Why not just beat it with a stick?

I'm sorry if I sound really out of line and aggressive but this attitude really pisses me off. The child is not something you own and can do what ever you like to. It is the responsibility of society to protect those that can't protect themselves, such as the child. Even if that means protecting it from it's own parents.
Completely taken out of context and twisted with a bit of extra added verbal diarrhea.

Take about going way too far overboard.

I said an energy drink not ram a crack pipe in it's mouth. Calm the hell down there cupcake.

She gave it a Red Bull, she didn't take it to the local strip club after a quick stop at an opium den.

Some folks, mainly those that have no children of their own, take things like this far..... far .... too seriously.

It was an energy drink, most probably a one off. You don't know why she gave it the energy drink yet people are acting as if the devil surfaced to corrupt the child.
 

Haukur Isleifsson

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Rawne1980 said:
Haukur Isleifsson said:
Rawne1980 said:
Snap
Completely taken out of context and twisted with a bit of extra added verbal diarrhea.

Take about going way too far overboard.

I said an energy drink not ram a crack pipe in it's mouth. Calm the hell down there cupcake.

She gave it a Red Bull, she didn't take it to the local strip club after a quick stop at an opium den.

Some folks, mainly those that have no children of their own, take things like this far..... far .... too seriously.

It was an energy drink, most probably a one off. You don't know why she gave it the energy drink yet people are acting as if the devil surfaced to corrupt the child.
How can it be out of context when I quoted your entire post?

The thing is you seemed to display the attitude that it is not any one else's business what you do to your child. I might have been wrong to interpret you that way but surely you can see why it seems that way. The point is that the difference is in quantity not nature. If you are doing something that is detrimental to the health of your child than it IS "our" business.

You might not think it fair that other people, who surely know nothing of raising children having non of their own, want to control the way you raise your child. But you must see that the same principle that makes them interfere with your parenting allows us as a society to save children from negligent/abusive parents. So we must stay firm in our position that it is not your private matter what you do to your child.