Would you want a Katana?

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TheRightToArmBears

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If I was given one, why not? More stuff is good stuff. I would buy one though, because I don't really see the point, as they're quite expensive and I could buy a shitload of porn lot of other stuff instead.
 

Captain Pancake

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It would be cool, but only if it was a proper job, one that took months to create, one that wouldn't break. Just in case I ever happen to be in an honor battle with a predator.
 

ZeeClone

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UK law requires the blade to be live.

Any weapon you have can be used against you, I don't have the time to commit to learning how to use a blade & I have no doubt the spiritual side of bushido would conflict with my wider beliefs. (With that said, I've not looked into it, I've got too much else crap to deal with). Please don't consider that belief thing an excuse to hijack the thread.

My short answer is no.
 

Rattler5150

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If I had the room for it, I would love to have a sword collection, including (but not limited to)

A Katana
Conan's Fathers sword
Leonidas' sword from 300
Blade's sword
 

Kukakkau

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Wouldn't buy one but if it was a gift sure why not?

Probably stick to ornamental use though - only other use nowadays is burglar deterrent
 

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Yes, because it just seems a cool thing to have.
 

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No I wouldn't, I'd prefer a rapier or a longsword/arming sword. If it was a katana or nothing I'd take the katana though.
 

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jamesworkshop said:
No, no Katanas are very good at not breaking thats why antique ones are still around along side modern production ones.
The antique ones are around because they were very carefully maintained and used in battle very rarely, and sometimes never since samurai normally carried a variety of weapons and normally started with their bows and then worked their way through their armory eventually using the katana for very specific confrontations. When faced by an opponent on horseback a spear or naginata is much more useful than a katana.

Here's a basic lesson in metallurgy. If you want to get river iron to be sharp then you have to bond it with either another metal (something Japan didn't have much of), or lots and lots of carbon. The trade-off with carbon bonding is that the loose ionic bonding is restructured into crystalline bonding, resulting in a blade that is harder, can take a much better edge, but is also much more prone to shattering (like crystal, hence crystalline bonding). The katana has a soft core of pig iron with outer layers (in the finest examples as many as a million layers) of hardened carbon bonded iron. The downside is that, despite this, a katana will shatter if subjected to stress from the wrong angles.

Metallurgy 101.

P.S. please don't raise diamonds as an example of crystalline bonding not being subject to shattering. The pressures and heat involved in making a sword just don't compare. Think more of coal, glass, or crystal.
 

jamesworkshop

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Frungy said:
jamesworkshop said:
No, no Katanas are very good at not breaking thats why antique ones are still around along side modern production ones.
The antique ones are around because they were very carefully maintained and used in battle very rarely, and sometimes never since samurai normally carried a variety of weapons and normally started with their bows and then worked their way through their armory eventually using the katana for very specific confrontations. When faced by an opponent on horseback a spear or naginata is much more useful than a katana.

Here's a basic lesson in metallurgy. If you want to get river iron to be sharp then you have to bond it with either another metal (something Japan didn't have much of), or lots and lots of carbon. The trade-off with carbon bonding is that the loose ionic bonding is restructured into crystalline bonding, resulting in a blade that is harder, can take a much better edge, but is also much more prone to shattering (like crystal, hence crystalline bonding). The katana has a soft core of pig iron with outer layers (in the finest examples as many as a million layers) of hardened carbon bonded iron. The downside is that, despite this, a katana will shatter if subjected to stress from the wrong angles.

Metallurgy 101.

P.S. please don't raise diamonds as an example of crystalline bonding not being subject to shattering. The pressures and heat involved in making a sword just don't compare. Think more of coal, glass, or crystal.
You are missing the point all weapons break if mistreated metal has never been indestrutible but people insist on making the weapons seem like glass if you read my other posts you would have noticed that I already understand why the Katana suffers from brittle faliures (western sword suffer from ductile faliures in general) and the fact that it was not the principal weapon of the Samurai, in fact it was far more widely used as a weapon of slaughtering unarmed and unarmoured pesants or for killing the injured but not yet dead after a battle has been won.

Your car is not badly designed or constructed but if you drive it into a tree (160KmH plus) you are going to destroy that car because they are not meant to be driven into walls or trees but no one would describe a car as being fragile.


Katanas break just like every other sword it has a limited working life just like every other man made tool in existance

Would you try to cut down a tree with a hammer and chisel? No but would you then says that the chisel is poorly constructed because it cannot perform a task it wasn't designed to do?

Antiqe weapons are still around because their owners keep good care of them and used them with care