WoW is Annoying Not hard get over yourselves

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VanityGirl

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I've played several MMO's, what you mentioned in nothing new in the world of MMO's.


You should also try to join a GOOD league, guild, group, whatever they're called. Usually guilds with more members are better. This will give you opportunities to go on raids more often. Ask around your MMO if a guild is good, if they raid regularly, if they like running dungeons, is the leader nice, ect.

And grinding? This will happen in any MMO as well. Level grinding, reputation/faction grinding, material grinding and armor grinding can be found in ANY MMO out there.

I've played WoW and since the community's so large, getting a raid group together is really not a problem at all. I got into trade chat and said "need people for raid! pst" and I'll get about 20-30 whispers.

*shrug* Everyone's experience is different I suppose. No need to rip on WoW in particular though, because everything you said can apply to all MMO's.
 

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#1 Gathering 25 people to do ANYTHING is like pulling teeth, Whats that i have 24 people, ok need a tank, whats that 3 DPS left? OK 3 DPS and 1 tank needed, Ok we all in the raid ok where are the two healers? omg they're AFK ok need 2 healers 15min later the whole group falls apart
People pay to play the game, what's the point of waiting for something that might never go?
Also, boredom might have a part to play in this behavior set.

#2 To do anything in WoW means joining a Guild, Now let me explain' Joining a guild is like putting yourself into bondage, Whats that one day the guild leader wants to give an item to his friend because Hes such a good raider(even though you where part of the boss kill and you need that item) you cant say jack or risk getting kicked
There's more than one way to skin a panther. What's keeping you from the PvP...
Actually, that one I can understand. High-level PvP is just ludicrous atm.

Anyways, the boss calls the shots. Have always been so, will always be. That is, until the boss is such a big dick, no one wishes to work under him/her.
Otherwise, you can always create a raid guild if you've got the motivating experience and strategies.
#3 Everything in game is based on numbers, A number in this game is victory of defeat, if facing a player with a higher number then you,(or a class that counters you) you cannot do anything, no matter how "pro" you may think you are you will be creamed
Well, it's like 10% skill, 15% concentrated power of will...

No, it takes a bit more than mere numbers. Hell, I won over a lvl 70 Druid with my lvl 35 Shaman, as he was a f k...
#4 Another problem i saw with wow is the useless grind they added to make you waste extra time for a very small reason, Im talking about PvE items and PvP, Both PvE and PvP items can be gained from only PvE so whats the point of making people grind for two sets? it makes no logic other then make you waste time
Haven't you heard? That the bir--*
No, there's surely something written on the WoW Forums about the reasoning behind it, and other complaints. I myself just assume it's that PvP gear works for PvP, and PvE gear works for PvE, and you need 'em both, or something...

In fact, why aren't you there instead of this corner of the interwebs?
#5 The very boring gear system WoW has makes me sad, every time they have an update add new raids and all they do with items is increase the stats of the old items and give them new names, they dont attempt to give items unique stats or at least something new just same stats with a boost, it makes me ask whats the point of making stronger items of the stats remain so boring?
Well, it ain't all easy to continuously give a motive to upgrade your character when that character have met their so-far maximum potential.

I myself think they should just give up the stat system, and let skills decide whom becomes the winner. Not who can spend the most of their fuckin' time grinding, which has just laid me off personally from WoW atm.

For instance, I can look menacingly in Fable, or like a fool. Either way, I can still stab people equally hard. My style shouldn't suffer from my need of superiority.

All in all, you look pissed and cranky. Let it wash away after a good week of merry-making and love, you'll see.
 

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Pardon me, folks. I represent the few people in the world who don't actually play WoW. Is any of this stuff really that important? What ever happened to having fun, exploring the land, or daring to push yourself to the limit of your character in a place that'll chew it up and spit it out?
This guy represents a similar group that also doesn't play Wow and is just bitching about it using second hand information.
 

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FalloutJack said:
Pardon me, folks. I represent the few people in the world who don't actually play WoW. Is any of this stuff really that important? What ever happened to having fun, exploring the land, or daring to push yourself to the limit of your character in a place that'll chew it up and spit it out?
It lost its meaning once everything did get explored, and WoW had to survive by adding in a tyrannic stats system, which oppresses the users of never being strong enough, and must become stronger if they are to achieve greater things, or merely keeping up with the others.

Simply put, people will start calling you names if you were to wear something stylish, but void of stats. No one wants it, everyone avoids it.
And the World of Azeroth is mapped out on WikiWoW; Not a single corner un-discovered.
 

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Zekksta said:
ionveau said:
Zekksta said:
OP is bad at WoW and angry so now it's annoying not hard.

Classic case of bad going on here.

Ironic, playing a MMO and complaining about needing a lot (it's not even that many) of other players to raid with.

Fuck, I remember 40 man raids, and trust me it was still super easy to get enough people to rock up to a raid, unless you're a bad, in a bad guild on an underpopulated server.

Which I'm guessing you most certainly are.

And the rare member that has mastered the annoyingness of this foolish game and now is barging about it trust me Everything that stops a person from getting items in WoW is the annoying group system you honor yourself with so much.
Before I saw that you were the OP, I thought you were agreeing with me, that's how little sense you made with this post.

I'm assuming by barging you meant bragging, and I honor myself with a group system apparently.

You say the game isn't hard, yet you obviously don't understand anything about high level raiding/pvp (If you did, this thread wouldn't exist).

I'm all for people criticizing WoW, hell, I did it myself on a daily basis when I played, however, your criticisms are fucking retarded, thus they deserve to be treated as such.

You're an idiot, go be an idiot somewhere else.
MMO RPG players logic right here
 

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ionveau said:
Zekksta said:
ionveau said:
Zekksta said:
OP is bad at WoW and angry so now it's annoying not hard.

Classic case of bad going on here.

Ironic, playing a MMO and complaining about needing a lot (it's not even that many) of other players to raid with.

Fuck, I remember 40 man raids, and trust me it was still super easy to get enough people to rock up to a raid, unless you're a bad, in a bad guild on an underpopulated server.

Which I'm guessing you most certainly are.

And the rare member that has mastered the annoyingness of this foolish game and now is barging about it trust me Everything that stops a person from getting items in WoW is the annoying group system you honor yourself with so much.
Before I saw that you were the OP, I thought you were agreeing with me, that's how little sense you made with this post.

I'm assuming by barging you meant bragging, and I honor myself with a group system apparently.

You say the game isn't hard, yet you obviously don't understand anything about high level raiding/pvp (If you did, this thread wouldn't exist).

I'm all for people criticizing WoW, hell, I did it myself on a daily basis when I played, however, your criticisms are fucking retarded, thus they deserve to be treated as such.

You're an idiot, go be an idiot somewhere else.
MMO RPG players logic right here
No your post really did make no sense.
 

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I LIKE THIS GUY! I LIKE THIS GUY ALOT!! xXx

Ok to elaborate.. Gaming is something the human race does for leisure. Which means we play games because we want to and turn them off when we feel we have had enough.
Gaming isnt a second job that expects us to be on at a certain time and only quit when somebody says we're allowed to. Sure we dont have to Raid but as Ive noticed WoW has nothing left to give those who are not willing to give it 5 hours of their life in one sitting every day. If I wanted to run around mindlessly killing stuff I'd buy a consol game and stretch my tired ass on my bed and play a real game with real content without the f***ing elves running around trying to sex me up in the woods.

I could go on but the point is. Gaming is for leisure! If you want to work with Games make sure somebody is paying you for spending half your life at a computer screen instead.
 

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If you don't like it don't play it. This is so very, very simple, and don't tell me no-one's ever said it to you before because people say it all the time about everything.

Incidentally, #3 is just how RPG's work, if you can't handle the idea of levels and classes then that genre is definitely not for you. Even Pokémon has them.

And finally, if you think you're going to convince the millions upon millions of people that populate the World of Warcraft, you are sincerely and unfortunately mistaken, because if it comes down to doing something they like or doing whatever you say, I can't imagine you'll have a great amount of followers in your cause.

EDIT: I read the above post. You now have one follower.
 

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Cheesus333 said:
Incidentally, #3 is just how RPG's work, if you can't handle the idea of levels and classes then that genre is definitely not for you. Even Pokémon has them.

Oh no you Didn't!!! You leave Pokemon out of this! Pokemon does not need to be compared to World of **** Warcraft! Pokemon has lived a good life and given us all a colorful, fun filled experienced that will remain in our hearts for many decades to come.
 

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Wondermint13 said:
Cheesus333 said:
Incidentally, #3 is just how RPG's work, if you can't handle the idea of levels and classes then that genre is definitely not for you. Even Pokémon has them.

Oh no you Didn't!!! You leave Pokemon out of this! Pokemon does not need to be compared to World of **** Warcraft! Pokemon has lived a good life and given us all a colorful, fun filled experienced that will remain in our hearts for many decades to come.
And there are people that play it competitively, found what the optimal teams to use, what's bad, what's good and found out how to make the most out of a single pokemon by EV training and breeding. Just wondering if you're aware of this.

OT: Considering the OP has made a previous post bashing WoW (And other games), I'm going to assume he's either trolling because he doesn't really put up any decent arguments or he can't get past on how much he hates WoW and needs to inform us of that.
 

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TerranReaper said:
Wondermint13 said:
Cheesus333 said:
Incidentally, #3 is just how RPG's work, if you can't handle the idea of levels and classes then that genre is definitely not for you. Even Pokémon has them.

Oh no you Didn't!!! You leave Pokemon out of this! Pokemon does not need to be compared to World of **** Warcraft! Pokemon has lived a good life and given us all a colorful, fun filled experienced that will remain in our hearts for many decades to come.
And there are people that play it competitively, found what the optimal teams to use, what's bad, what's good and found out how to make the most out of a single pokemon by EV training and breeding. Just wondering if you're aware of this.

OT: Considering the OP has made a previous post bashing WoW (And other games), I'm going to assume he's either trolling because he doesn't really put up any decent arguments or he can't get past on how much he hates WoW and needs to inform us of that.
Absolutely True. But that's down to those addicted gamers again taking things a little too bloody seriously and making us humans look bad. Pokemon was doing fine and still is on a less impactual level but there's always souless masses of people that cant let a game just be a game. Just unfortunate WoW has over 10 million of them.

Good Point but nobody elses fault but the ones who dangle the carrot and the idiots that follow it for 6 years. And Pokemon were not even trying. =) They're just so damn f***ing cute!
 

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Wondermint13 said:
TerranReaper said:
Wondermint13 said:
Cheesus333 said:
Incidentally, #3 is just how RPG's work, if you can't handle the idea of levels and classes then that genre is definitely not for you. Even Pokémon has them.

Oh no you Didn't!!! You leave Pokemon out of this! Pokemon does not need to be compared to World of **** Warcraft! Pokemon has lived a good life and given us all a colorful, fun filled experienced that will remain in our hearts for many decades to come.
And there are people that play it competitively, found what the optimal teams to use, what's bad, what's good and found out how to make the most out of a single pokemon by EV training and breeding. Just wondering if you're aware of this.

OT: Considering the OP has made a previous post bashing WoW (And other games), I'm going to assume he's either trolling because he doesn't really put up any decent arguments or he can't get past on how much he hates WoW and needs to inform us of that.
Absolutely True. But that's down to those addicted gamers again taking things a little too bloody seriously and making us humans look bad. Pokemon was doing fine and still is on a less impactual level but there's always souless masses of people that cant let a game just be a game. Just unfortunate WoW has over 10 million of them.

Good Point but nobody elses fault but the ones who dangle the carrot and the idiots that follow it for 6 years. And Pokemon were not even trying. =) They're just so damn f***ing cute!
I wouldn't say all competitive players are people that don't know how to have fun or "soulless masses" that takes things too seriously. Being a competitive player means you want a little extra challenge for whatever reason (and the satisfaction of winning). Also, having played WoW for a little bit, I find the generalization that all WoW players are dickheads to be exaggerated. Considering I was on the side that was known to have the most little kids and dickheads, there are some decent people and unjustified rage is not as common as you think it is.
 

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A game that requires a monthly fee is a timesink?

Alert the presses, alert the media. Call the president, this man's a genius!
 

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ionveau said:
#1 Gathering 25 people to do ANYTHING is like pulling teeth, Whats that i have 24 people, ok need a tank, whats that 3 DPS left? OK 3 DPS and 1 tank needed, Ok we all in the raid ok where are the two healers? omg they're AFK ok need 2 healers 15min later the whole group falls apart

#2 To do anything in WoW means joining a Guild, Now let me explain' Joining a guild is like putting yourself into bondage, Whats that one day the guild leader wants to give an item to his friend because Hes such a good raider(even though you where part of the boss kill and you need that item) you cant say jack or risk getting kicked

#3 Everything in game is based on numbers, A number in this game is victory of defeat, if facing a player with a higher number then you,(or a class that counters you) you cannot do anything, no matter how "pro" you may think you are you will be creamed

#4 Another problem i saw with wow is the useless grind they added to make you waste extra time for a very small reason, Im talking about PvE items and PvP, Both PvE and PvP items can be gained from only PvE so whats the point of making people grind for two sets? it makes no logic other then make you waste time

#5 The very boring gear system WoW has makes me sad, every time they have an update add new raids and all they do with items is increase the stats of the old items and give them new names, they dont attempt to give items unique stats or at least something new just same stats with a boost, it makes me ask whats the point of making stronger items of the stats remain so boring?
#1. 10 mans, enough said

#2. My guild is friendly, not a single loot problem or anything, and we have freedom of speech as long as it is not total vulgarity

#3. Skill playes as much of a roll as gear does, if you suck you will fail.

#4. Different stats.

#5. Obviously you have not even bothered to do any of the new bosses. They all contain new and unique mechanics.

Troll harder please