WoW Player Gets Power, Gets Corrupted, Gets Banned
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Just because everyone would do it doesn't make it any less of an exploit. Being given something that a 'normal' player clearly isn't suppose to have and using it constantly is obviously exploiting the item. Whether it was bug that gave it to him or not he should have reported it.
I play WoW and probably would have done the same in his shoes but hey; the amount of screenshots I woulda got with it would outweigh the banning XD
I play WoW and probably would have done the same in his shoes but hey; the amount of screenshots I woulda got with it would outweigh the banning XD
This guy is an idiot to think that he can twist his story to seem like he didn't deliberately exploit the game for selfish purposes and anyone who actually believes the bullshit he's trying to spew is an even bigger an idiot.
You DO NOT get given a 'you win' button, it defeats the whole point of the game, it's the same as cheating, it's not fun and when you're not the only person playing the game it gives you an unfair advantage over people. You can use the analogy of finding a million dollars all you want, because it does work and it works against him, if you find a million dollars just try spending it, don't be surprised when someone comes looking for it and brings the law down on you.
The item was not given to him as he claims but to someone else and his willing acceptance of it makes him even more complicit, and the story clearly shows that as a matter of fact he did exploit the ability by using it to complete quests that are meant to be only beaten by large groups of people, that's an exploit.
He got what he deserved no matter how much he tries to skew the truth.
You DO NOT get given a 'you win' button, it defeats the whole point of the game, it's the same as cheating, it's not fun and when you're not the only person playing the game it gives you an unfair advantage over people. You can use the analogy of finding a million dollars all you want, because it does work and it works against him, if you find a million dollars just try spending it, don't be surprised when someone comes looking for it and brings the law down on you.
The item was not given to him as he claims but to someone else and his willing acceptance of it makes him even more complicit, and the story clearly shows that as a matter of fact he did exploit the ability by using it to complete quests that are meant to be only beaten by large groups of people, that's an exploit.
He got what he deserved no matter how much he tries to skew the truth.
Everyone on this thread should read the Terms of Use.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html
Just normal WoW fail.
They should fix their buggy game, not punish people for playing it the way they coded it to play. Or in this case, the way a GM handcrafted it to play.
All that should have happened was that a random GM should have
1) Removed the item from the player's inventory.
2) Dropped him a note in the mail saying "Taking my sword back now. Hope you had fun with it. Love, GM".
3) Not handed developer items to players anymore.
Also, why isn't there code to specifically watch out for situations like this (and prevent GM-powered cheating)?
They should fix their buggy game, not punish people for playing it the way they coded it to play. Or in this case, the way a GM handcrafted it to play.
All that should have happened was that a random GM should have
1) Removed the item from the player's inventory.
2) Dropped him a note in the mail saying "Taking my sword back now. Hope you had fun with it. Love, GM".
3) Not handed developer items to players anymore.
Also, why isn't there code to specifically watch out for situations like this (and prevent GM-powered cheating)?
It was a glitch, the player exploited the glitch; He got banned for it. Did you even bother to read the TOS?Nutcase said:
Have blizzard responded on why he was banned? No.
How many versions of the story do we have? One.
Is the source of that story a eliable, trustworthy source? No.
Does he have a reason to lie in order to make the opposition look bad? Yes.
Like i said before in a post that was completely ignored between all the OMGF BLEZERD IZ EBIL ranting, the only have the guy's word for his version of the events. We have no idea of knowing HOW he got that item but to me, the "friend got it as "replacement" for hacked account and he sent it to me" sounds as fishy as it gets. He could have hacked in order to get that item and after he was found out, he's just being a sore loser and blaming Blizzard for everything.
How many versions of the story do we have? One.
Is the source of that story a eliable, trustworthy source? No.
Does he have a reason to lie in order to make the opposition look bad? Yes.
Like i said before in a post that was completely ignored between all the OMGF BLEZERD IZ EBIL ranting, the only have the guy's word for his version of the events. We have no idea of knowing HOW he got that item but to me, the "friend got it as "replacement" for hacked account and he sent it to me" sounds as fishy as it gets. He could have hacked in order to get that item and after he was found out, he's just being a sore loser and blaming Blizzard for everything.
Right except if you just find a million dollars it obviously belongs to someone. If someone gives you a million dollars however, it's a very different matter. Despite this I do agree with you, I certainly would check with Blizz before running around and using it. I still think he shouldn't have been banned though. It's Blizzards mistake and they should have just taken it from him and left it as is. For all they do for their subscribers, Blizzard really are twats.Slycne said:
*sigh* That's blizzard for you.
Screw it, I've got tauren in my D&D campaign. I'm going to take Penny Arcade's advice and check out Free Realms.
Screw it, I've got tauren in my D&D campaign. I'm going to take Penny Arcade's advice and check out Free Realms.
"Kills all enemies in a 30 yard radius. Cheater."Undeed said:
When that is the items tooltip, and when the items effect is called:
"Area Death (TEST)"
Its a fair bet it was never intended for an ordinary player. I mean, without those, just knowing that it kills all enemies within 30 yards should clue you in to the fact its probably not a balanced or 'real' item.
Most online games have this policy, a few months ago Valve took privileges from TF2 players using unlocks they weren't meant to have, that through a bug they had the chance to use.
Besides, he was playing a level 80 Gnome, that does count against him.
"Rules Related to Game Play. Game play is what World of Warcraft is all about, and Blizzard strictly enforces the rules that govern game play. Blizzard considers most conduct to be part of the Game, and not harassment, so player-killing the enemies of your race and/or alliance, including gravestone and/or corpse camping, is considered a part of the Game. Because the Game is a "player vs. player" game, you should always remember to protect yourself in areas where the members of hostile races can attack you, rather than contacting Blizzard's in-game customer service representatives for help when you have been killed by an enemy of your race. Nonetheless, certain acts go beyond what is "fair" and are considered serious violations of these Terms of Use. Those acts include, but are not necessarily limited to, the following:James Raynor said:
(i) Using or exploiting errors in design, features which have not been documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players;" Quote from http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html
This then, but given the option and knowing the consequence, I would have totally done it.
I have read the TOS, and it is a combination of stupid, lazy and ridiculous. A honest version would go something like this -James Raynor said:
"If enough people complain about you, or if we feel like it, we will ban you. We do not need a reason. You can lessen the chance of us banning you by doing these things: 1) Don't be very good at the game. 2) Don't associate with people who are. 3) ..."
The game is a dictatorship no matter what, sure, but *good* dictatorships have consistent rules. WoW doesn't. The competent thing to do is to fix the bugs, fix the hard built-in rules, and let players do their best without arbitrary GM rulings and babysitting.
For an amusing example of how much they care about whether players actually follow the TOS, check out examples of forbidden names from the TOS, then search for those names on the Armory (with the exact same spelling). Hundreds of instances come up. Why does Blizzard allow players to input names they have already determined to be against policy, something a simple blacklist would solve by technical means? They don't give a shit, and neither should the players.
