WoW Player Gets Power, Gets Corrupted, Gets Banned

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Eisenfaust

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well you can't really blame the guy for going nuts with it... power's there to be abused anyway... he just found an awesome way to use the power
 

Meiliken

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Actually, anyone who was given an item with the notice that it was a gift would not question it. So when Blizzard dropped the ball and gave him something they didn't mean to, and he used it, he was well within his right to do so. So with that in mind, when they banned him for a mistake they themselves made, they are in breach of the agreement honoring his account status by him paying a monthly fee. Due to this, he is well within power to sue Blizzard for his entire time and money wasted in his 4+ years playing. This in all acutality would entitle him to a monetary figure well into the millions. But taking on a financial giant like Blizzard is a very circumspect venture. He would win the suit, but Blizzard could drag it out forever to wait until he gives up. Blizzard is already known to treat its own employees badly, so the ethics of the company are very questionable. A result like this is very likely and I would only be surprised if Blizzard did the right thing, reopened his account, and issued a formal public apology to him and the rest of the Blizzard player community. Anything less shows them to be a dubious and untrustworthy company that breaks their own rules. The words "fraudulent" and "bad business practices" floats to mind. My best regards to the victim.
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
Man, you get Martin Fury and all you do is kill 4T Leviathan? He should have gone straight for Algalon.
you need to kill, hodir, freya, thorim and Mimiron on hard mode first.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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The_Oracle said:
So the ones in charge of WoW unknowingly and indirectly caused an extremely powerful item to fall into the hands of a regular WoW player, and then they ban him when he takes advantage of the exploit they allowed to come into existence?

I'd say 'wow', but that would be a bad pun.
To late. Anyway I think maybe he used it a bit to much? Sure if I got given that I would start using it discreetly. Plus it is a bit rude that they just banned him, just take the item away. He was lvl 80 anyway probably with the best gear he could manage. What could he gain from using it? A laugh?
 

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Meiliken said:
Actually, anyone who was given an item with the notice that it was a gift would not question it. So when Blizzard dropped the ball and gave him something they didn't mean to, and he used it, he was well within his right to do so. So with that in mind, when they banned him for a mistake they themselves made, they are in breach of the agreement honoring his account status by him paying a monthly fee. Due to this, he is well within power to sue Blizzard for his entire time and money wasted in his 4+ years playing. This in all acutality would entitle him to a monetary figure well into the millions. But taking on a financial giant like Blizzard is a very circumspect venture. He would win the suit, but Blizzard could drag it out forever to wait until he gives up. Blizzard is already known to treat its own employees badly, so the ethics of the company are very questionable. A result like this is very likely and I would only be surprised if Blizzard did the right thing, reopened his account, and issued a formal public apology to him and the rest of the Blizzard player community. Anything less shows them to be a dubious and untrustworthy company that breaks their own rules. The words "fraudulent" and "bad business practices" floats to mind. My best regards to the victim.
Actually he was the one to violate the agreement, so they are entirely within legal rights to get rid of the moronic cheater.
 

John Funk

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Christemo said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
Man, you get Martin Fury and all you do is kill 4T Leviathan? He should have gone straight for Algalon.
you need to kill, hodir, freya, thorim and Mimiron on hard mode first.
And when you have an insta-kill shirt, those four cease to be problematic ;)
 
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The Inconvenient Cookie said:
Lets be honest, if you recieve an item that instantly kills everything, the chances are it's not legitemite. I would of repor- CHRIST I'M BORING.
Actually in Fallout 3, there is an ability that creates a small nuke around yourself if your health goes below 20!
 

teutonicman

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I think that it's a pretty ***** move on Blizzard's part. Based on the information given in the article the person did only what most other games would do, go out and kick serious ass.
 

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Meiliken said:
Actually, anyone who was given an item with the notice that it was a gift would not question it. So when Blizzard dropped the ball and gave him something they didn't mean to, and he used it, he was well within his right to do so. So with that in mind, when they banned him for a mistake they themselves made, they are in breach of the agreement honoring his account status by him paying a monthly fee. Due to this, he is well within power to sue Blizzard for his entire time and money wasted in his 4+ years playing. This in all acutality would entitle him to a monetary figure well into the millions. But taking on a financial giant like Blizzard is a very circumspect venture. He would win the suit, but Blizzard could drag it out forever to wait until he gives up. Blizzard is already known to treat its own employees badly, so the ethics of the company are very questionable. A result like this is very likely and I would only be surprised if Blizzard did the right thing, reopened his account, and issued a formal public apology to him and the rest of the Blizzard player community. Anything less shows them to be a dubious and untrustworthy company that breaks their own rules. The words "fraudulent" and "bad business practices" floats to mind. My best regards to the victim.
That entire post was wrong.

I'll concede that the GM who restored Leroy's account should be reprimanded for adding a test item to a live server. Blizzard probably penalized the GM for negligence.

But here's the fact of the matter, the item was not a "gift". It was an accidental glitch added to Leroy's account. But once he found out that it worked, his guild master asked for it. A ton of people in this thread seem to have forgotten that the "God Item" changed hands from the hapless beginner to the power hungry Guild Leader. This guy then decides to go to the hardest raid instance in the game and kill the hard bosses before anyone else in the world got to.

The "he got a million dollars and spent it" analogy doesn't work well here. This is more like a fat guy finding teleporting shoes and competing in the Olympic 100 meter dash and winning a gold medal for it. The people who actually trained hard to get those world kills were gipped out of the bragging rights and recognition by some asshat with a cheating item.

That aside however, this guy wouldn't last five seconds in court. He got banned for breaking the rules of a contract that he signed before playing. Blizzard has full rights to punish those that breach their contract.

Just because a company enforces their own rules and punishes those that cheat does not make them a "fraudulent" company with "bad business practices". It's common sense to arrest those that exploit the game and affect others with their own reckless actions.
 

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Slycne said:
Undeed said:
Slycne said:
cainx10a said:
Not fair. Blizzard's fault, they should have just removed the item and locked his account for the same amount of time given to his guild mates.
If he had sent something to Blizzard asking about the item I would agree with you, but it doesn't sound like this is the case. It would be like finding a million dollars lying on the street, you don't just start spending it. It's pretty apparent that an accident was made and they did not intend to give him an item that instant kills enemies. I don't buy that he thinks they legitimately gave that to him for a second. He got greedy and wanted to use it, and now he is simply enjoying his 15 minutes of fame. He deserved what he got in my opinion.
No, it'd be like finding a million dollars in your mail box. It seemed like it was intended for him. And I'm fairly sure that most people here would just start spending it, times is hard.
Well to strain the analogy even further it would be like finding a million dollars in your friends mail box, but your friend gave it to you with little to no explanation.

Karatechop was not the character who received the item, it was given to another character in his guild who gave it to him. That right there makes the "Blizzard gave it to him" argument fly right out the window for me.
Yeah, but that means that he got banned because he used an item his buddy gave him.
 

ae86gamer

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If anyone would have gotten it they would have done the same thing. I know I would. Its Blizzards fault for giving him the item, even if it was by mistake.
 

GamingAwesome1

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So this guy gets banned because Blizzard fucked up and gave him an item that he wasn't supposed to have.

Blizzard, you suck. The fair solution would be to take the item, achievements and loot away and lock his account for the same amount of time as the rest of his guild. That would be fair.
 

Textbook Bobcat

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I would have kept this power to myself, and abused it in secret.

Reminds me of Runescape when a player could kill people wherever in the game world. I can always see the funny side as I'm never affected (not playing them).

Feel bad for the people's livelihoods that are taken apart though. Did he manage to kill player characters? Funnier still if he did
 

James Raynor

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ae86gamer said:
If anyone would have gotten it they would have done the same thing. I know I would. Its Blizzards fault for giving him the item, even if it was by mistake.
And he should have known not to use it, it even said cheater on the item's description.


GamingAwesome1 said:
So this guy gets banned because Blizzard fucked up and gave him an item that he wasn't supposed to have.

Blizzard, you suck. The fair solution would be to take the item, achievements and loot away and lock his account for the same amount of time as the rest of his guild. That would be fair.
He got banned because he abused power, the item he got even said cheater on it.

And he went and fucked with the entire server, he gave his guild epics; Got two world's first awards, etc.
 

evilomega13

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He got banned for being given an item? Really?
Never played WOW, but it seems slightly unjust to me- reset his achievements, de-level his character, maybe even delete that character, but a full ban? For someone who's been playing for 4+ year's?
That seems like an overreaction on Blizzards part.
 

AntiAntagonist

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A little unjust, but it hardly behooves Blizzard to adjust their policy over the claims from the user. It should probably be an interaction between Blizz and the community as a whole to determine a standardized punishment.
 

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There are a few people, wow players, in this thread trying to take the morale highground by saying "I would have reported it".. no, you wouldn't have. Puts me in mind of those people who say "You know,if someone offered me 10 million pounds i would say no, money changes people" and you know those are the people who are first in line for the "kick a child for a penny" ride at the fair..

What? Everywhere has that ride.. right?

If you can honestly say that you have a item that kills everyone around you and you wouldn't use it once then i call you a liar,
A LIAR I SAY!