Wranglers: Hobbit Production Responsible for 27 Animal Deaths

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Winnosh

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Dammit people. Some animal protection stuff actually does matter. Yes PETA are asshole but the article isn't even about them, they are literally mentioned ZERO times in the linked article and mentioned in ONE SENTENCE here.

People need to stop using their justifiable hatred for PETA and putting them on issues that have nothing to do with them.
 

Cade Aponte

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I'll buy 3 tickets and give them away for free, to help make up for the PETA idiots will will boycott this film. Just because I'm spiteful like that.
 

Doclector

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Now, there could be a real issue here. These are very serious claims, that should be considered even though ancidents do happen, especially seeming as two animals dying in accidents is a sad but likely eventuality, whereas twenty-seven of them dying...not so much.

And then there's PETA. It probably says a lot about them that I just want them to fuck off even though I believe there's a possible case here.
 

DrunkOnEstus

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RandomMan01 said:
dragongit said:
The problem about picketing ouside of a Lord of the Rings film, unlike most films say Harry Potter or even Star Wars, many of them will probably be in costume, weilding wooden to dull bladed weapons. You'll likely have a whole army chasing you down the street if you try to prevent them from seeing the movie.

They WILL release the trolls on those PETA assholes.
One of those will probably be me. If any one of those assholes try to get in the way of me seeing that movie, I will personally hold them down and beat them to a pulp.
I guess we'll see each other in person, and we'll settle it like men. And don't look for me near those PETA idiots that cause more harm than good, to hell with them.
 

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Walking in front of a bus is quite easily avoided, PETA, but it still happens. Look both ways before crossing, kiddies. If they try to get in the way of the cinema I'll be visiting, the number of deaths for which The Hobbit is responsible may well go up.
 

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I can't say for sure if that is true; such things are often...suspect. Though, it is unacceptable that such things are occurring, if they are. That's just wildly irresponsible on the half of the crew.
 

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DrunkOnEstus said:
RandomMan01 said:
dragongit said:
The problem about picketing ouside of a Lord of the Rings film, unlike most films say Harry Potter or even Star Wars, many of them will probably be in costume, weilding wooden to dull bladed weapons. You'll likely have a whole army chasing you down the street if you try to prevent them from seeing the movie.

They WILL release the trolls on those PETA assholes.
One of those will probably be me. If any one of those assholes try to get in the way of me seeing that movie, I will personally hold them down and beat them to a pulp.
I guess we'll see each other in person, and we'll settle it like men. And don't look for me near those PETA idiots that cause more harm than good, to hell with them.
Yes...let's. Come at me, my drunken friend...or foe... acquaintance?
 

Karma168

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Angel Molina said:
(Also, I know this img. is too big, but i don't know how to make it smaller, does anyone know how to shrink images? Thanks in advance)
Just stick it in spoiler tags:

Quote me to see how it's done


OT: As is usual with PETA, they've come late to the party, after the problems been sorted and decided to kick up a stink over nothing. Seriously who keeps funding these idiots?
 

babinro

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I'm curious if the response to this would still be 'positive' if the movie in question was some trash exploitation film like say The Human Centipede 2.
 

Xan Krieger

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Mr F. said:
Xan Krieger said:
PETA is in the right on this one, these deaths were avoidable and the fact that they didn't prevent the deaths in the first place is reason enough to protest it. If a movie costs innocent lives the movie should never even be released.
PETA kills animals on a regular basis, far more than accidentally died during the filming (Or died of natural causes during the filming) of this one film.

How about this: An animal charity that costs the lives of animals on a regular basis should not be allowed to exist.

For comparison why not compare PETA with, say, the RSPCA? Compare strategies and aims and tell me which is the more ethical group.

No matter how decent the cause is the moment PETA touches it it becomes toxic.
I hate PETA but even assholes are right sometimes. PETA may do crap like want to setup a slaughterhouse scented billboard in my town or do the dumbest protests anyone here can think of but on rare occasions like this they're right.

KeyMaster45 said:
Xan Krieger said:
PETA is in the right on this one, these deaths were avoidable and the fact that they didn't prevent the deaths in the first place is reason enough to protest it. If a movie costs innocent lives the movie should never even be released.
Too little too late for PETA to protest? The animals aren't being kept on the farm anymore and it's not like they continued to ignore the problem. Besides it's just a bunch of farm animals, hardly any reason to lose sleep over, so saying the movie should never be released because 27 of them died is rather ridiculous.
So a movie costs 27 lives and that isn't enough to lose sleep over? How many innocent deaths is too many?
 

Proverbial Jon

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Formica Archonis said:
Why am I not surprised? I've yet to see a group with "humane" in the title that wasn't a bunch of incompetents or an outright racket.
Ironic really how we use the word "humane." Humans are the ones that cause animal suffering, whether it be through wilful harm or ignorant neglect. It might be said that compassion and mercy are human only qualities, but so is mindless violence and the pleasure in another's suffering. To treat something with the qualities of our race seems arrogant at best and downright hypocritical at worst.
 

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I really can't take PETA seriously any more (Not that I ever really did in the first place). But I mean really, they just reek of hypocrisy.

Their representatives are like bipolar monkeys who only do this because they regret being the cause of daddy and mommy splitting up when they were three years old.
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
It's sad to me, that PETA decides to protest now when all things have been resolved with the set and the farm.
I mean, Peter Jackson even adopted three pigs to give them happy, settled lives.

Despite the obvious, I am starting to think PETA doesn't really care about animals but rather making a scene for publicity support.
Agreed. Unfortunately I wouldn't be surprised if there was more negative opinion towards PETA than the animal cruelty they say they stand against, all because they can't keep from spending their money on making attempted ignorant and obnoxious guilt-trips towards everybody over menial "issues" rather than, oh I don't know, preventing actual animal cruelty.
 

Mr F.

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Xan Krieger said:
Mr F. said:
Xan Krieger said:
PETA is in the right on this one, these deaths were avoidable and the fact that they didn't prevent the deaths in the first place is reason enough to protest it. If a movie costs innocent lives the movie should never even be released.
PETA kills animals on a regular basis, far more than accidentally died during the filming (Or died of natural causes during the filming) of this one film.

How about this: An animal charity that costs the lives of animals on a regular basis should not be allowed to exist.

For comparison why not compare PETA with, say, the RSPCA? Compare strategies and aims and tell me which is the more ethical group.

No matter how decent the cause is the moment PETA touches it it becomes toxic.
I hate PETA but even assholes are right sometimes. PETA may do crap like want to setup a slaughterhouse scented billboard in my town or do the dumbest protests anyone here can think of but on rare occasions like this they're right.

KeyMaster45 said:
Xan Krieger said:
PETA is in the right on this one, these deaths were avoidable and the fact that they didn't prevent the deaths in the first place is reason enough to protest it. If a movie costs innocent lives the movie should never even be released.
Too little too late for PETA to protest? The animals aren't being kept on the farm anymore and it's not like they continued to ignore the problem. Besides it's just a bunch of farm animals, hardly any reason to lose sleep over, so saying the movie should never be released because 27 of them died is rather ridiculous.
So a movie costs 27 lives and that isn't enough to lose sleep over? How many innocent deaths is too many?
Right, I am just going to question your use of language here.

For innocence or guilt to be established, something has to be capable of thought and forethought to the degree where they can consciously commit an act. Animals are not capable of this. Animals are not particularly intelligent. Well, with the exception of dolphins, some primates and whales. Most animals are pretty fucking dumb.

The animals listed here are all pretty dumb. And, for the record, all shit I have eaten. Horse tastes good. As does sheep.

It is regrettable that some animals died in the filming of the hobbit but shit happens. Birds are killed by cars on a daily basis, should all cars that have struck birds be removed from the road? Planes occasionally strike birds, should all flight paths known to have ever struck birds be cancelled?

A film the size of the hobbit cost millions. Whilst it is all well and good to go "CANCEL IT! INNOCENT HORSES DIED TO MAKE THIS FILM" it is also incredibly incredibly stupid. The damage that the studio would face if it cancelled its entire multi-million dollar enterprise would be immense, people would lose jobs, it would be hell.

Sorry, sometimes people need some perspective. Whilst the accidental deaths of animals is regrettable and preventable, it doesn't actually matter that much. It genuinely annoys me when people get so angry about a few horses or a fucking chicken. People matter more, lots more.

Well, that's my two cents on the issue.

I think its about time everyone took a step back, breathed deeply and actually thought about what they were saying.