X-Play (along with many others) just didn't get it!!

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jimduckie

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x-play has been going downhill for awhile now the show seems to be as if they are getting paid to fake reviews just to sell more games , and like electric playground they are slowly drifting towards a less gaming format ,just talk gaming for crist sake if we want movies and music we'll watch et
 

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As bad as X-Play has gotten over the years, I actually find myself agreeing more with their review of this game than other people. For me, the game just felt like "more of the same" from Capcom, when I think they could have been innovative and really brought this game to the top of the gaming world.
 

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I saw the review and i totally agree with x-play. resident evil 5 is a bad game. Its a horrible interpretation of the zombie apocalypse, the controls are slow, and because of bad controls making it difficult to play, they had to make the zombies walk really fucking slow so you wouldn't be devoured quickly. I think they should have played it safe with other third person shooter controls
 

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popdafoo said:
Some of the complaints were that the control scheme wasn't exactly like everything else that's been coming out and that the inventory had to be viewed in real time. Well, excuse Capcom for trying to actually make the game more intense. That's why Resident Evil 4 wasn't as intense because if you were being chased down and you ran out of ammo, you could pause the game and switch to another weapon. In Resident Evil 5, when you run out of ammo, it's definitely more of an "OH SHIT" moment.
Poor controls and chaotic inventory systems are do not add intensity, just frustration. Their is a difference between real difficulty, and fake difficulty. These things are fake difficulty. Another part of faker difficulty is the solo gameplay. Many of the bosses are frustrating playing by yourself because the AI controls are too limited. The bosses are designed for two human players. They are much harder on solo because you cant use aggro mechanics since your partner follows you around like a loyal dog.
 

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X-Play it used to be funny the G4 tries to and impress everyone and fucked it up but at least they have the chasers war on everything
 

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First of all, X-Play always has sucked and always will.
Second, I agree with your points. It's as if they were deliberately looking for stuff to complain about. I agree with how you said half the stuff would remove the Survival Horror element. They have always been dickheads. (At lest Yahtzee's complaints are actually valid). But what got me was the racism. Slavery has been over for almost 150 years now, stop complaining. You want equal rights? Then you get to get killed in a video game just like white people. In closing, don't worry about what they think. If you like it, they can go fuck themselves. It's about you, not them. Although it is odd how a review show has more opinion then actual gameplay problems.
 

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ultimatechance said:
Jumplion said:
Oy vey;

[HEADING=1]It's their fucking opinion[/HEADING]

If you like it and disagree with what they say, fine, but don't come to us and ***** and moan about how they "don't get it". It's their opinion, deal with it, not everyon is going to like a game that you think is great.

Just deal with it.

And of course, here come the moaners who say "X-Play SUCKZ NAW!" and "THEIR REVIUZ SUK NAW CUZ THY DUN GET IT!" Deal with it people! It's their opinion, is it that hard to just look at another review instead of being personally offended by one review. One review? What, you can't stand the sight of one person not liking your precious Christ of games?

Deal with it people! They're called opinions!
but xplay went beyond opinion. theres opinions like "hmm, i thought the voice acting was poor", and then saying something like "this game doesnt have regenerating health, so less points". You cant do things like that, and the OP made perfectly valid points. Those things arent up for arguing, especially when you complain that RE5 isnt a run and shoot game.
Um, yes you can.

If someone thinks that not having regenerative health is detrimental to the game, then more power to them. People mark down games for the craziest of things, that doesn't make them wrong and that doesn't mean that they can't do that.

Re5 was all Sessler's opinion. He thought that the game was trying to stick to it's roots, but was failing at that. Maybe they could have included an option for run and gun as ,I was led to believe they did, but apparantly they don't. Telling Sessler that he's wrong because he thought that RE5 is trying to stay old while the rest of the industry is moving forward is just ignorance to someone's opinion and intolerance to someone voicing their thoughts on what could have been.

His critique of RE5's menu system and controls are that it doesn't intensify the gameplay, but it just frustrates you. There's a difference between scaring your player and frustrating him. Dead Space handled moving and aiming and real-time menu systems quite well, and it was still a pretty scary game especially on your first playthrough (moreso on harder difficulties I've been told).

People criticize crazy things sometimes, but that doesn't make them any less wrong (and please don't invoke Godwin's law or something)

EDIT: And after looking at the review, Sessler never said anything about how RE5 would be better with Regenerating health. All he said was the half-assed cover mechanic is as frustrating if Gears of War had a health bar. You're putting words in his mouth.
EDIT 2: And let's see what he said in the written review. Just saying, I havn't read it yet, so let's see.
 

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ultimatechance said:
Jumplion said:
Oy vey;

[HEADING=1]It's their fucking opinion[/HEADING]

If you like it and disagree with what they say, fine, but don't come to us and ***** and moan about how they "don't get it". It's their opinion, deal with it, not everyon is going to like a game that you think is great.

Just deal with it.

And of course, here come the moaners who say "X-Play SUCKZ NAW!" and "THEIR REVIUZ SUK NAW CUZ THY DUN GET IT!" Deal with it people! It's their opinion, is it that hard to just look at another review instead of being personally offended by one review. One review? What, you can't stand the sight of one person not liking your precious Christ of games?

Deal with it people! They're called opinions!
but xplay went beyond opinion. theres opinions like "hmm, i thought the voice acting was poor", and then saying something like "this game doesnt have regenerating health, so less points". You cant do things like that, and the OP made perfectly valid points. Those things arent up for arguing, especially when you complain that RE5 isnt a run and shoot game.
While it's not fair, it is still an opinion that hey are allowed to have.

I really would have enjoyed being able to slowly move while aiming, I personally think it would have allowed for MORE strategy in the gameplay. I'm also a little thrown off by people who say that being able to do this wouldn't make it survival horror and would effectively turn it into Halo or Gears. All I can say to that is, Do you honestly believe that Dead Space was anything like halo or gears?
 

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Jumplion said:
Ok, so? Its a forum. The OP made very valid points, and did not say it with random flaming. Yeah its xplays opinion, but he backs up why he disagrees with them. Hardly anything is ever fact when we look at reviews, but everyone can have their own opinion on it.

and another thing, there is no point in saying "its their opinion", because its nothing but a giant loophole. Observe.


[HEADING=1]It's the OP's fucking opinion[/HEADING]

If you disagree with what he says, then fine, but don't come to him and ***** and moan. It's his opinion, deal with it, not everyon is going to agree with him.

Just deal with it.

And of course, here come the moaners who say "BUT ITS XPLAYS OPINION" and "1ST AMMENDMENT RULZ" Deal with it people! It's his opinion, is it that hard to just look at another thread instead of being personally offended by one poster. One thread? What, you can't stand the sight of one poster not liking your precious opinion?

Deal with it people! They're called opinions!
 

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ultimatechance said:
Jumplion said:
Ok, so? Its a forum. The OP made very valid points, and did not say it with random flaming. Yeah its xplays opinion, but he backs up why he disagrees with them. Hardly anything is ever fact when we look at reviews, but everyone can have their own opinion on it.

and another thing, there is no point in saying "its their opinion", because its nothing but a giant loophole. Observe.

*snip satirical*
Har har, good retort right there, but that would work if I've ever bashed the OP's opinion. I'm bashing his bashing of other people's opinions. I never said the OP's opinion doesn't matter, but the problem is the OP is flaming X-play and others for not sharing his opinion. It shows in the freakin' title of the thread. He's saying that they "don't get it", when he is having trouble understanding that X-play and others have their own opinions.

The OP is entirly entitled to his opinion, I agree, but you sidestepped the whole problem which is the OP whining and bitching to us that these people don't agree with him. This happens with most negative reviews (and sometimes positive reviews) where someone somewhere is so pissed off that they have to bother us and not them about how they hate their review.

If you disagree with X-Play's review(s), fine, just don't ***** to us. The OP has his own points, but he fails to understand that overall it's just Sessler's opinion. And reading the writen review, it's alot more forgiving and explaining than the video review.
 

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Jonny The Kay said:
X-play sucks at reviewing games anyway don't let it get 2 you.
actally they review games adequetly, sure setting a bar isnt very good, but me and other people constantly find the same things wrong with the game. Inconsistacy is a big turn off for me, dont try to fix what isnt broken

Edit:also look above, X-play does leave alot out of the video reviews due to a 30min time window
 

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popdafoo said:
, then it wouldn't be SURVIVAL HORROR. That's what they were going for, and with this, you need to make more tactical decisions.
Its not a survival-horror game though...its very much an action game - its either a decent action game with poor controls or a poor survival horror game.
 

ElArabDeMagnifico

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Survival horror is not "surviving the horror of the controls".

Go play that ocean view hotel level in VTM: Bloodlines.
 

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Jumplion said:
Oy vey;

[HEADING=1]It's their fucking opinion[/HEADING]

If you like it and disagree with what they say, fine, but don't come to us and ***** and moan about how they "don't get it". It's their opinion, deal with it, not everyon is going to like a game that you think is great.

Just deal with it.

And of course, here come the moaners who say "X-Play SUCKZ NAW!" and "THEIR REVIUZ SUK NAW CUZ THY DUN GET IT!" Deal with it people! It's their opinion, is it that hard to just look at another review instead of being personally offended by one review. One review? What, you can't stand the sight of one person not liking your precious Christ of games?

Deal with it people! They're called opinions!
Obviously you didn't read the post. I know people have opinions, I was just using this game as an example. I was pointing out how unprofessionally they reviewed the game. Don't be such an asshole and actually read the post before flipping out.

People didn't like Fallout 3, I did. People didn't like Gears of War 2, I did. People didn't like Prince of Persia, I did. I'm not angry at what they said about the game per se, I'm just upset at how he criticized a game for what, in my opinion, makes it better and more tactical. I think they need to be much more professional in reviewing if it's their job.
 

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popdafoo said:
Obviously you didn't read the post. I know people have opinions, I was just using this game as an example. I was pointing out how unprofessionally they reviewed the game. Don't be such an asshole and actually read the post before flipping out.






I'm sorry, but I figured this;

Normally, I don't care about what reviewers say about games, but I was watching X-Play and saw their review of Resident Evil 5. As I was listening to their complaints, I realized that they had no idea what they're talking about.
and this;

I think it's just ridiculous.
and this;

this just made me mad how a "professional" review team criticized a game on such stupid things. If you could walk and shoot, then it wouldn't be survival horror. If you had regenerating health, then it wouldn't be survival horror. If you had infinite ammo, then it wouldn't be survival horror. People just don't get it.
Showed me that you completely hated their opinion on the game. Besides, who are you to say what constitutes as a survival horror game and what doesn't? Dead Space did most of them, and Condemned I believe had regenerative health. They can't review a game "unprofessionally" just because some things that they said arn't up to par on what you think. You say that you accept that this is their opinion, but you completely contradict yourself with this thread. If you did accept that it's their opinion, you'd never have to make this thread.

Sessler never mentioned anything on regenerative health, only that the half-assed cover mechanic mimicked what would be Gears of War if it didn't have regenerative health. He didn't say that RE5 was bad without regenerative health, only that the cover system was not adequat to heal yourself and such.
He complained about the sluggish controls and how you can't move and shoot or at least have the option to move and shoot. Once again, Dead Space had moving and shooting, and I think it did survival horror pretty well, all my opinion of course.
And then he said the inventory system was clunky and unintuitive. He said trying to navigate the menu while in real time was frustrating, not intense. There's a difference between grabbing some ammo in your inventory system quickly and mindlessly thumbing around to find out what you need. Once again again, Dead Space provided real-time inventory, but it wasn't too hard to find what you were looking for and had quick and easy access to health items.

This is why I always try to read the written reviews. Check out the written review for RE5, it's much better and gives more info on why Sessler didn't like this or that.

If you have a problem with how and what they reviewed, don't go to us, we're not your problem. Go to them as they're hte one's who reviewed it. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings or whatever, but we can't do anything about it and we are not the people who reviewed the game. X-Play reviewed it, so go complain to them.

EDIT: And looking at your own edit, what's the problem if that's the case? It's all their opinion, it shouldn't bother you whether they reviewed it "profesionally" or not. What are you trying to say here, that they can't critique a game that you think they can critique certain points and aspects of a game? It's their opinion, if the person thinks that not being able to move and shoot hinders gameplay instead of making it scary then that's their opinion. you're in no position to say what they can and can't critique.
 

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I thought the exsact same thing! If makes more sense that you stand still because you are an agent and you woulndt run in circles holding the trigger....
 

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I see your point but remember.

Creating thrills is not an excuse to undermine gameplay.