XBOX 360 Slim: Dying, scamming and enraging customers already...

[Sinful Tyrant]

Mine works like a charm and doesn't give me any problems, but thats because I dont have HD, but my console will more than likely Give me RDoD, but until then i'll enjoy it as long as i can.

 

[science girl]

This is why I'm glad I bought a PS3. The Xbox seems to have way to many problems.

 

[migo]

Mine is working perfectly thank you for asking. I'm very happy with it, good looking and quiet is a mouse.

Besides, if you have a warranty, don't worry about it bricking.

Only people that don't do anything else really need to worry.

If it has an RDoD it hasn't failed, it's just protecting itself, so your warranty won't cover it. Plus, having to buy an extended warranty for a product is silly.

What? Microsofts warranty have always coverd RROD? That haven't changed as far as I'm aware.

The warranty covers hardware failure, shutting down to prevent failure isn't hardware failure, it's working the way it should, so it doesn't get covered.

 

[migo]

So it seems they're going the PS3 route of keeping everything separate so you have to pay for everything. Can't say I'm surprised.

So it seems another Microsoft console has major problems. You'd think that they would learn after the first time they released a console with many hardware flaws.

WTF are you on about? You don't have to pay for everything with the PS3, everything is included. If you want an extra controller you pay for that... that's about it. Oh, and games of course. If you have a sound system with optical in you already have a cable, and for HDMI, the new ones included it anyway, and when they didn't they were less than $10 from Monoprice.

The PS3 comes with a hard drive, a controller, a power cable, and a standard AV cable.

Everything else you need to buy. With the possible exception of the hard drive, which you can replace with your PC hard drive if you ever feel like it.

And what else do you need to buy? There isn't anything else you need beyond more controllers (which is standard practice), and with new PS3s you don't even need to buy an HDMI cable.

 

[migo]

..yet my old CD Walkman used to go jogging with me and never skip or scratch discs, despite having numerous moving parts... and that was 10 years ago.

The tech is there to avoid it.

I think the important word their is Walkman. That is made to be moved around with you. I see you point but a 360 or any console is not supposed to be moved it is supposed to be a stationary object. The fact that it is probably cheaper to make them with this flaw will make it so that they will always be made with this flaw. The electric engine has been around for over a 100 years yet be still used the fossil fuel engines. Just because something better is there does not mean it will be used.

Then you're ignoring when people mention no such problems with the PS2, PS3, Wii or GameCube, or for that matter, the Xbox, only the 360 has this problem, and it's worse with the S.

You're also ignoring my comment on it not being a true problem with the console it could be worked around and the tech is there. It is Microsoft having a greedy business model and passing it onto the consumer. So if you buy a 360 you either live it and work around it or complain or don't buy it. If Sony want to make their consoles indestructible it is up to them and if Nintendo want to make theirs reliable then it is up to them but if Microsoft want to shoddy technically flawed consoles then it is up to them. I would also like to point out I do actually own a Slim and have moved it with a disc in it and the disc is fine. Granted I install my games and the movement was slight but no one in their right mind moves a console or anything like that from standing to vertical with a spinning disk in it. Regardless of if it doesn't usually break it. May as well throw Fairy Liquid on the disks to see if that cleans them.

Man, your attitude just sucks. And, you're such a MS Fanboy.

 

[migo]

..yet my old CD Walkman used to go jogging with me and never skip or scratch discs, despite having numerous moving parts... and that was 10 years ago.

The tech is there to avoid it.

I think the important word their is Walkman. That is made to be moved around with you. I see you point but a 360 or any console is not supposed to be moved it is supposed to be a stationary object. The fact that it is probably cheaper to make them with this flaw will make it so that they will always be made with this flaw. The electric engine has been around for over a 100 years yet be still used the fossil fuel engines. Just because something better is there does not mean it will be used.

Then you're ignoring when people mention no such problems with the PS2, PS3, Wii or GameCube, or for that matter, the Xbox, only the 360 has this problem, and it's worse with the S.

Also those systems don't spin with the same rpms as the 360 does.

That's the excuse? Seriously?

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

1. Never have had a RROD, and I've had my Elite since day 1.

2. Never scratched a disc, Xbox360 has remained vertical except when taking it down to clean. Also I remove discs prior to all shutdowns, never leaving them inside.

3. HDTV's not supporting Audio Out? When the hell did this happen? My setup is like this: Xbox - HDTV via HDMI, Optical from TV to Reciever, all other audio output components plug into reciever. And all it takes is 2 wires, HDMI and Optical. Thats why they invented the whole A/V in one cable (HDMI) so you wouldn't have a mess of wires anymore. Welcome to new technology.

All in all, if you hate 360 or MS, you will always find a reason to hate on them. And FYI, Sony is just as money-grubbing as MS, so don't delude yourself that they actually "care" about you, the little guy.

 

[Shycte]

Mine is working perfectly thank you for asking. I'm very happy with it, good looking and quiet is a mouse.

Besides, if you have a warranty, don't worry about it bricking.

Only people that don't do anything else really need to worry.

If it has an RDoD it hasn't failed, it's just protecting itself, so your warranty won't cover it. Plus, having to buy an extended warranty for a product is silly.

What? Microsofts warranty have always coverd RROD? That haven't changed as far as I'm aware.

The warranty covers hardware failure, shutting down to prevent failure isn't hardware failure, it's working the way it should, so it doesn't get covered.

Well, how come I turned my Xbox in to Microsoft and got a new one for free?

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Also as a side note people will always have problems and there needs to some indication on the console or system as to what the problem is which is why I liked the red rings of death.

You missed the point, It's not the fact that there's a red ring to inform us that there's a problem. But the fact that it happens so often. I've been threw 4 xbox's Microsoft has horrid customer service and they charge for everything. Microsoft just doesn't care enough about it's costumers. Also hwo do you think Bill Gates became the richest man in the world it wasn't about caring for things other than a person's money.

Well I can't really speak there. My Xbox only broke once at the end of nearly 4 years of life so for a release console I can't complain in that respect but that was to do with badly made parts.

 

[taintedtshirt]

The one red dot means that the cables are mot plugged in correctly, I had the same problem on my new xbox slim and all i had to do was unplug the a/v cables then replug and it worked like a charm... Also the 'slim' is not as slim as I thought it would be, when i compared it to my old xbox 360 the demension where almost the same(the slim is just a bit shorter), so it's more sleek than slim.

 

[Snotnarok]

You've totally confused me, no console comes with HD cables, not the PS3 not the Virtual boy not the 360, the SNES, even the Sega Genesis with the high definition claim didn't come with proper cables(RCA being HD at the time). These are cables you have always had to buy separately. And as far as I know if you wanted to hook up both cables at the same time on any system it wouldn't start or would give you problems, so again, what are you complaining about?

Why would you ever, EVER touch a system while it's running? You cant even touch a NES without the system locking up and you want to touch something with a disc that's doing thousands of revolutions per minute? That's not a design flaw, unless you want the disc to spin at 1x so your levels can load in 10 minutes.

Look if you want to blame Microsoft, blame them for their shitty Xbox live contracts that scare away some developers, or for the original system for having major RROD issues because they didn't want to hire a company to design the motherboard and they tried to do it in house. You don't even bring a discussion you're already clearly bias for whatever reason. Lets look at the facts, Microsoft is a corporation, just like the other two big companies they want your money and they'll ask for any accessories they can. I don't care about the company so much unless they do really bastard things like Ubisoft and their Nazi like DRM.

 

[MMETEORAGA1994]

I'm actually surprised. I thought they sorted out the problem with the last batch of original 360's. It's not like the console is processing that much anyway. This has to be intentional on Microsofts part

 

[migo]

Mine is working perfectly thank you for asking. I'm very happy with it, good looking and quiet is a mouse.

Besides, if you have a warranty, don't worry about it bricking.

Only people that don't do anything else really need to worry.

If it has an RDoD it hasn't failed, it's just protecting itself, so your warranty won't cover it. Plus, having to buy an extended warranty for a product is silly.

What? Microsofts warranty have always coverd RROD? That haven't changed as far as I'm aware.

The warranty covers hardware failure, shutting down to prevent failure isn't hardware failure, it's working the way it should, so it doesn't get covered.

Well, how come I turned my Xbox in to Microsoft and got a new one for free?

Because it was an old Xbox with an E73/E74/RRoD rather than a new one that just gives you the red eye?

 

[Irridium]

The PS3 comes with a hard drive, a controller, a power cable, and a standard AV cable.

Everything else you need to buy. With the possible exception of the hard drive, which you can replace with your PC hard drive if you ever feel like it.

Im not sure what you mean by everything else unless your talking about games. I cant think of any everything else that you would need except an hdmi cable which are under $10.

Yeah I know. To be honest I'm just nitpicking.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

..yet my old CD Walkman used to go jogging with me and never skip or scratch discs, despite having numerous moving parts... and that was 10 years ago.

The tech is there to avoid it.

I think the important word their is Walkman. That is made to be moved around with you. I see you point but a 360 or any console is not supposed to be moved it is supposed to be a stationary object. The fact that it is probably cheaper to make them with this flaw will make it so that they will always be made with this flaw. The electric engine has been around for over a 100 years yet be still used the fossil fuel engines. Just because something better is there does not mean it will be used.

Then you're ignoring when people mention no such problems with the PS2, PS3, Wii or GameCube, or for that matter, the Xbox, only the 360 has this problem, and it's worse with the S.

Also those systems don't spin with the same rpms as the 360 does.

That's the excuse? Seriously?

I have had my Ps2 scratch games for moving it as well as stationary and a friend of mine's PS3 scratched 3 of his games. Also if the laser eye is dirty there's a chance it will focus too close to the disc potentially scracthing it or the eye itself. Systems shouldn't be moved when in use, period. There's no reason to move them and thus no reason for dev's to install devices to prevent things like *shock damage*. And having kids or pets isn't an excuse in a day and age where controllers are Wireless and thus little to nothing to get tangled in/on and dragged. Its up to the consumer to protect his/her console from falls etc. I believe even the setup tips say something about placing it in a place where it won't be knocked down or dropped. Its not a notebook, its a console designed to STAY PUT.
Also don't leave your discs in the console after powering down, that can cause scratches esp. if you decide to move it while there's a disc inside.

 

[Cryofthewolf]

I can't say that I would want one. I'm happy with the original X-Box 360, where I won't break the thing. I'm wicked clumsy and clueless about my surroundings, so buying one of these babies is a sure way for me to lose all my games.

 

[migo]

I'm actually surprised. I thought they sorted out the problem with the last batch of original 360's. It's not like the console is processing that much anyway. This has to be intentional on Microsofts part

Yeah, definitely intentional. It can be seen as a fluke with the original 360 since they rushed it out to beat the PS3 to market, but by now they had plenty of time to get the reliability solved. I'm sure they noticed somewhere that profits where higher around the 360 launch time than later on after the Jasper chipset, so they did everything they could to recreate it.

 

[Zirat]

I am going to need to start doing this to some people

Spoiler: Starts at :30

But in all seriousness, I called this a mile a way while everyone I knew kept calling it 'invincible and RROD free'