XBOX 360 Slim: Dying, scamming and enraging customers already...

[Shycte]

Mine is working perfectly thank you for asking. I'm very happy with it, good looking and quiet is a mouse.

Besides, if you have a warranty, don't worry about it bricking.

Only people that don't do anything else really need to worry.

If it has an RDoD it hasn't failed, it's just protecting itself, so your warranty won't cover it. Plus, having to buy an extended warranty for a product is silly.

What? Microsofts warranty have always coverd RROD? That haven't changed as far as I'm aware.

The warranty covers hardware failure, shutting down to prevent failure isn't hardware failure, it's working the way it should, so it doesn't get covered.

Well, how come I turned my Xbox in to Microsoft and got a new one for free?

Because it was an old Xbox with an E73/E74/RRoD rather than a new one that just gives you the red eye?

No wait what?

See, MicroSoft extended the warranty so that RROD got 3 seperate years. That means that if you get the RROD during those 3 years, you could have it repaired/exchanged for free.

Fact.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Man, your attitude just sucks. And, you're such a MS Fanboy.

Wow that is a great argument there. Just because Microsoft indulges in barely legal business practises makes me a MS fanboy. Please explain to me why me point out that Microsoft abusing the need to replace things or buy things related to their product for me money something Bill Gates has been doing since day one makes me a MS fanboy. That is how he became rich so don't call me a fanboy when I am clearly pointing out what has and probably always will be Microsoft business practise. Throwing in someone is a fanboy really makes an argument less valid. Seriously where to do I openly praise the Xbox and shun all other consoles making me a MS fanboy. Please bold the part where I take the piss out of the console I don't own. Oh I didn't do that did I? I pointed out the glaring flaws in the 360 a console which I own and know people who own and have valid opinions about. Yep that makes me a MS fanboy.

 

[migo]

Mine is working perfectly thank you for asking. I'm very happy with it, good looking and quiet is a mouse.

Besides, if you have a warranty, don't worry about it bricking.

Only people that don't do anything else really need to worry.

If it has an RDoD it hasn't failed, it's just protecting itself, so your warranty won't cover it. Plus, having to buy an extended warranty for a product is silly.

What? Microsofts warranty have always coverd RROD? That haven't changed as far as I'm aware.

The warranty covers hardware failure, shutting down to prevent failure isn't hardware failure, it's working the way it should, so it doesn't get covered.

Well, how come I turned my Xbox in to Microsoft and got a new one for free?

Because it was an old Xbox with an E73/E74/RRoD rather than a new one that just gives you the red eye?

No wait what?

See, MicroSoft extended the warranty so that RROD got 3 seperate years. That means that if you get the RROD during those 3 years, you could have it repaired/exchanged for free.

Fact.

The new Xbox 360 S doesn't have that extended warranty. It's back down to 1 year, and since it doesn't have a red ring, it doesn't RRoD. Not covered at all.

 

[migo]

Man, your attitude just sucks. And, you're such a MS Fanboy.

Wow that is a great argument there. Just because Microsoft indulges in barely legal business practises makes me a MS fanboy. Please explain to me why me point out that Microsoft abusing the need to replace things or buy things related to their product for me money something Bill Gates has been doing since day one makes me a MS fanboy. That is how he became rich so don't call me a fanboy when I am clearly pointing out what has and probably always will be Microsoft business practise. Throwing in someone is a fanboy really makes an argument less valid. Seriously where to do I openly praise the Xbox and shun all other consoles making me a MS fanboy. Please bold the part where I take the piss out of the console I don't own. Oh I didn't do that did I? I pointed out the glaring flaws in the 360 a console which I own and know people who own and have valid opinions about. Yep that makes me a MS fanboy.

What MS is doing is bullshit, and rather than calling them on their shit, you're defending them. Fanboy.

 

[Irridium]

So it seems they're going the PS3 route of keeping everything separate so you have to pay for everything. Can't say I'm surprised.

So it seems another Microsoft console has major problems. You'd think that they would learn after the first time they released a console with many hardware flaws.

WTF are you on about? You don't have to pay for everything with the PS3, everything is included. If you want an extra controller you pay for that... that's about it. Oh, and games of course. If you have a sound system with optical in you already have a cable, and for HDMI, the new ones included it anyway, and when they didn't they were less than $10 from Monoprice.

The PS3 comes with a hard drive, a controller, a power cable, and a standard AV cable.

Everything else you need to buy. With the possible exception of the hard drive, which you can replace with your PC hard drive if you ever feel like it.

And what else do you need to buy? There isn't anything else you need beyond more controllers (which is standard practice), and with new PS3s you don't even need to buy an HDMI cable.

As I said above, I was just nitpicking.

 

[Meggiepants]

Yes, I got one. I traded my old Halo one in before it had the chance to blow up on me.

One thing that annoyed me, and still annoys me, is that they insist on changing the power cable. I have an AV rack that has a hidden channel that all my cords go up. It looks pretty that way, and my cats can't chew them. I have to unscrew the bloody thing to re-lay the cables. Both the 360 and the new PS3 slim did this to me. I hate it. As for the HDMI thing, my standard HDMI cable worked, but I do run it into a receiver, so I don't know if that is any different.

One thing I don't get, is the new dinging noise. Why does everything have to ding now? My washer and dryer ding, my consoles ding. Is dinging the new way of saying, "Lookie here! I'm a fancy gadget! And I'm so friendly! Ding!"

If it dings when it red dots or whatever, I'm throwing it down the stairs.

 

[ThePurpleStuff]

People sometimes move things by accident. It happens. People have kids, pets, narcolepsy, stuff like that y'know?

And beside, I once dropped my Gamecube from a five foot high shelf, it rolled all around the floor and when I looked back, the game was still running perfectly. Consoles can be built to avoid this problem.

Ahh, the Gamecube, I loved that little indestructible box of fun. The Wii is pretty much a Gamecube, just went on a diet and got a paint job. Nintendo had some good console design I'll give them that, except maybe the NES, Virtual boy and the damn sensor bar for the Wii!!! But hey, everybody makes mistakes.

OT: There's plenty of videos on youtube of how to fix the original 360, I haven't really looked for ones on how to fix the slim one though. I'm never buying a 360 ever again, this console breaking has to have been intentional to get more cash from all the repairs.

 

[Shycte]

Man, your attitude just sucks. And, you're such a MS Fanboy.

Wow that is a great argument there. Just because Microsoft indulges in barely legal business practises makes me a MS fanboy. Please explain to me why me point out that Microsoft abusing the need to replace things or buy things related to their product for me money something Bill Gates has been doing since day one makes me a MS fanboy. That is how he became rich so don't call me a fanboy when I am clearly pointing out what has and probably always will be Microsoft business practise. Throwing in someone is a fanboy really makes an argument less valid. Seriously where to do I openly praise the Xbox and shun all other consoles making me a MS fanboy. Please bold the part where I take the piss out of the console I don't own. Oh I didn't do that did I? I pointed out the glaring flaws in the 360 a console which I own and know people who own and have valid opinions about. Yep that makes me a MS fanboy.

What MS is doing is bullshit, and rather than calling them on their shit, you're defending them. Fanboy.

Then don't buy it! Seriously? Why on Gods green earth would you complain about people enjoying themself? I like my Xbox 360, Glademaster is enjoying his so why complain? Do you have some kind of hatred for people having fun? You are not here to do discussion. You waited five posts then strated screaming fanboy. Go home to SDF.

And about our warranty discussion, I have no idea how the warranty works but I guess it is the same.

 

[RobCoxxy]

People sometimes move things by accident. It happens. People have kids, pets, narcolepsy, stuff like that y'know?

And beside, I once dropped my Gamecube from a five foot high shelf, it rolled all around the floor and when I looked back, the game was still running perfectly. Consoles can be built to avoid this problem.

Ahh, the Gamecube, I loved that little indestructible box of fun. The Wii is pretty much a Gamecube, just went on a diet and got a paint job. Nintendo had some good console design I'll give them that, except maybe the NES, Virtual boy and the damn sensor bar for the Wii!!! But hey, everybody makes mistakes.

OT: There's plenty of videos on youtube of how to fix the original 360, I haven't really looked for ones on how to fix the slim one though. I'm never buying a 360 ever again, this console breaking has to have been intentional to get more cash from all the repairs.

I had two Gamecubes, both died. Just stopped reading discs after about a year and a half each. *sigh*
Loved them to bits. The day my black controller died via Chunky Orange Juice spilling cats was indeed a sad one.

 

[Flamezdudes]

So now its RDOD (Red Dot Of Death)? Hm, interesting.

I wasn't planning on getting the new Xbox anyway since i've had mine for almost 2 years now and never had any major problems with it (Please no jinx). So unless mine break's, i'm not getting this baby!

 

[For.I.Am.Mad]

There's been a lot of Microsoft hate lately, more than usual. Kinda interesting.

 

[Davey Woo]

The disc makes an ungodly sound when spinning inside the xbox on my new Slim.
Add that to the fact that I lost all my game saves during the "free DATA transfer"

Not too impressed to be honest.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Man, your attitude just sucks. And, you're such a MS Fanboy.

Wow that is a great argument there. Just because Microsoft indulges in barely legal business practises makes me a MS fanboy. Please explain to me why me point out that Microsoft abusing the need to replace things or buy things related to their product for me money something Bill Gates has been doing since day one makes me a MS fanboy. That is how he became rich so don't call me a fanboy when I am clearly pointing out what has and probably always will be Microsoft business practise. Throwing in someone is a fanboy really makes an argument less valid. Seriously where to do I openly praise the Xbox and shun all other consoles making me a MS fanboy. Please bold the part where I take the piss out of the console I don't own. Oh I didn't do that did I? I pointed out the glaring flaws in the 360 a console which I own and know people who own and have valid opinions about. Yep that makes me a MS fanboy.

What MS is doing is bullshit, and rather than calling them on their shit, you're defending them. Fanboy.

Please elaborate on how I am defending them. Point out the magical word where I am defending them. If you want to buy a Microsoft you go in knowing what kinda service you going to get same as Sony or Nintendo. How about I discount your argument because you have been on this forum about 1/12 of the time I have been as that makes about as much sense as you calling me a fanboy. Although if you are going to nit pick about things and make mountians out of mole hills and baseless assumptions then yes I will point out the glaring flaws in your statement.

You're also ignoring my comment on it not being a true problem with the console it could be worked around and the tech is there. It is Microsoft having a greedy business model and passing it onto the consumer. So if you buy a 360 you either live it and work around it or complain or don't buy it. If Sony want to make their consoles indestructible it is up to them and if Nintendo want to make theirs reliable then it is up to them but if Microsoft want to shoddy technically flawed consoles then it is up to them. I would also like to point out I do actually own a Slim and have moved it with a disc in it and the disc is fine. Granted I install my games and the movement was slight but no one in their right mind moves a console or anything like that from standing to vertical with a spinning disk in it. Regardless of if it doesn't usually break it. May as well throw Fairy Liquid on the disks to see if that cleans them.

Please point out the bit where I defend Microsoft's business practise of abuse of the Capatalist system?

 

[MrHappy255]

Yes which is why if you have any of these the console should be put in a position when this would not happen. If you were that worried or in danger of it the area the console is in could easily be moddified with would of any solid object to prevent it from moving.

I'm sorry but I still think it is unnaceptable for this problem to exist in this day and age.

If every electronic device we owned was built to this standard, people would walk around thier houses like Irish dancers, afraid to move thier arms.

Not really my phone does not have any moving parts while it is on. In fact the only thing that does is my iPod that I carry around with me. If you don't think the problem should exist then write to Microsoft for being a greedy business. That is all this is just greedy business practise. So unfortunately it is p to the cunsomer to overcome these inbuilt faults. Just to add to this it is not only Microsoft that does things like this. Most HD tvs have a chip in them and shuts them down after a certain amount of hours being on and Stand By counts as being on. This is so you have to go and get it repaired or changed. While this needs to be done every so often the fact it is forced is insane. I have had non HD tv in my family for over 15 years and they still work fine.

Um, what part of your ipod moves, the wheel. An ipod is just a flash drive with a screen and a headphone jack. that is why you can wing the thing around like a brick.

As for microsoft releasing poor products well that is because people still buy them. My ps3 works just fine and it is one of the old huge lunks. People just seem to accept that the 360 will brick sooner or later, they just hope it is still under warranty; sad really

 

[ryanxm]

i was bit-er um complaining! that i didnt get in to my local game stop (who were having a little deal where if you brought in your old xbox they would give you a slim)but seeing as the RED RING OF DEEEEEEEEEEATH has been replaced by this new RED DOT OF DEEEEEEEEEEEEEATH!im verry verry verry verry happy i didnt get one i remember actualy sending my xbox(s!) back to microsoft so many times i took it to a guy down town who actualy fixed it once and for all! (thats right the amature dude fixed it once and for all)

 

[Shycte]

Yes which is why if you have any of these the console should be put in a position when this would not happen. If you were that worried or in danger of it the area the console is in could easily be moddified with would of any solid object to prevent it from moving.

I'm sorry but I still think it is unnaceptable for this problem to exist in this day and age.

If every electronic device we owned was built to this standard, people would walk around thier houses like Irish dancers, afraid to move thier arms.

Not really my phone does not have any moving parts while it is on. In fact the only thing that does is my iPod that I carry around with me. If you don't think the problem should exist then write to Microsoft for being a greedy business. That is all this is just greedy business practise. So unfortunately it is p to the cunsomer to overcome these inbuilt faults. Just to add to this it is not only Microsoft that does things like this. Most HD tvs have a chip in them and shuts them down after a certain amount of hours being on and Stand By counts as being on. This is so you have to go and get it repaired or changed. While this needs to be done every so often the fact it is forced is insane. I have had non HD tv in my family for over 15 years and they still work fine.

Um, what part of your ipod moves, the wheel. An ipod is just a flash drive with a screen and a headphone jack. that is why you can wing the thing around like a brick.

As for microsoft releasing poor products well that is because people still buy them. My ps3 works just fine and it is one of the old huge lunks. People just seem to accept that the 360 will brick sooner or later, they just hope it is still under warranty; sad really

Personly I think that caring so much about what other people lay their money on is sad... But hey! I cried to UP so what do I know.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Yes which is why if you have any of these the console should be put in a position when this would not happen. If you were that worried or in danger of it the area the console is in could easily be moddified with would of any solid object to prevent it from moving.

I'm sorry but I still think it is unnaceptable for this problem to exist in this day and age.

If every electronic device we owned was built to this standard, people would walk around thier houses like Irish dancers, afraid to move thier arms.

Not really my phone does not have any moving parts while it is on. In fact the only thing that does is my iPod that I carry around with me. If you don't think the problem should exist then write to Microsoft for being a greedy business. That is all this is just greedy business practise. So unfortunately it is p to the cunsomer to overcome these inbuilt faults. Just to add to this it is not only Microsoft that does things like this. Most HD tvs have a chip in them and shuts them down after a certain amount of hours being on and Stand By counts as being on. This is so you have to go and get it repaired or changed. While this needs to be done every so often the fact it is forced is insane. I have had non HD tv in my family for over 15 years and they still work fine.

Um, what part of your ipod moves, the wheel. An ipod is just a flash drive with a screen and a headphone jack. that is why you can wing the thing around like a brick.

As for microsoft releasing poor products well that is because people still buy them. My ps3 works just fine and it is one of the old huge lunks. People just seem to accept that the 360 will brick sooner or later, they just hope it is still under warranty; sad really

Em that was kinda the point of me saying my iPod. It is the only thing I can think of that even has any remotely moveable parts. I know it is sad I have spent the better part of an hour talking about Microsofts awful business practise while being called a MS fanboy.

 

[JLML]

Now does the red light mean your console has crapped out on you? Or is it what happens when the console shuts itself off because it was going to overheat? I mean if its the later and works fine again an hour later then thats perfectly acceptable. Infact many many electronic devices work that way, with the red light and everything.

In theory it is supposed to mean it has overheated and needs to cool down.

Unfortunately some people have found that the cooldown period needed is... forever.

I have a silly theory I'd like to be tested some day. I will never do it though, since I don't want an xbox. And everyone I know has a working one. But still... If it would go rrod (if it means it's over-heated and needs to cool down) why not put it in the refrigerator, with the cables running out a half-closed door, and the tv next to it? Maybe, just maybe... I mean, it COULD work, if the rrod means it is (or at least thinks it is) over-heated... =P

 

[bioshockedcriticjrr]

I suppose we shouldn't have expected less from microsoft, the company that fricken makes you pay for an internet connecter, but still, this kinda said nonetheless