Xbox One reveal live discussion

[Smeggs]

First thoughts: I thought it was called the Xbox Infinity? What the hell? Think of the confusion this system will cause parents and grandparents who try to buy an Xbox "One" for Timmy's birthday. "I bought you the Xbox One." "No, Dad, this is the old Xbox!"

*Watching stream*

>>>Used Game Installation Fee

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Not gonna happen.

Nothing else at all matters to me about this console now. If Microsoft wants to treat their consumers like they don't own what they've bought, then I won't be buying. And here I thought Always Online was the worst move they'd make.

Hello, Sony, you're looking pretty sexy over there in that little black dress.

 

[Dansrage]

Xbox One? More the like the Xbox DONE.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

...I'll be here all week.

In all seriousness, I think I can definitely say that I will be going PS4 and eventually maybe the Wii U (in addition to my generally capable PC) this coming generation. Sony and Nintendo seem to be more interested in offering actual games to entertain me, and the 3DS and Vita have been impressing me quite a bit.

Considering that both the Xbox One and PS4 will be using x86 architecture and AMD hardware, not only is PC better, but both consoles are watered down computers with underclocked and undervolted hardware sold at a loss. Having x86 architecture means that multiplatform games will be easier to port to PC and work better on PC than the current (PS3/360) generation's ports. The only game changer could be the PS4's puzzling 8Gb of GDDR5, usually reserved for graphics card memory, we'll have to wait and see how they put that to use, could be interesting. Having seen what the PS4 and XBO can do graphically, I can safely say I won't need to upgrade my PC for this entire generation, looks like another 8 years of my 5850 from 2009 embarrassing consoles, it's pitiful.

 

[Smeggs]

That has to be the UGLIEST box I have ever seen. No charm. None. Just a big black brick.

Well it is a glorified Cable Box with Gaming Functionality.

How many Cable Boxes do you know that look decently?

I don't recall ever seeing a cable box that looks like a big ugly brick. If I did it sure as hell wasn't out where I could see it. Not like I can put this thing in the cabinet and play it, I'm sure this'll have just as much of an overheating issue as the 360. I doubt Microsoft actually took the time to fix their shit, rather I'm sure they were working on it, saw the PS4 announcement, and then rushed to show off their new Monolith from 2001, leaving a host of hardware issues that I'm sure will come to the fore in the first few weeks or months of its release.

 

[jibjab963]

I honestly missed everything because of graduation stuff. Can some one tell me if it will be backwards compatible? If not I'll be very disappointed. Well more so than I already am...

Edit: Never mind. I found out it isn't compatible with not only 360 games, but arcade games and other downloads from the 360. It's honestly extremely sad to see it happen like that.

 

[Signa]

That has to be the UGLIEST box I have ever seen. No charm. None. Just a big black brick.

MS seems to have a square aesthetic going on right now. It's fitting, because only squares are this dumb.

*badum ching*

 

[LAGG]

Infinity Ward trying to sell leaning as a new thing. Top. Fucking. Lel. That is just golden.

Yeah so funny, pretending CoD2 and CoD4 didn't already have it.

 

[Happiness Assassin]

I got the sense that the point of this was to appeal to a broader audience, but the only people watching it were hardcore gamers. Nothing wrong with broadening the demo, but they completely forgot to bring any games to the table, beyond CoD, which has a solid base already. They could have seriously done better with this.

 

[ThePS1Fan]

You must of missed the part where they said the E3 press conference will be showing off the Gaming portion of the console.

If they didn't have any games to show off with their gaming console they shouldn't have shown off their fucking gaming console.

 

[jibjab963]

First thoughts: I thought it was called the Xbox Infinity? What the hell? Think of the confusion this system will cause parents and grandparents who try to buy an Xbox "One" for Timmy's birthday. "I bought you the Xbox One." "No, Dad, this is the old Xbox!"

*Watching stream*

>>>Used Game Installation Fee

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Not gonna happen.

Nothing else at all matters to me about this console now. If Microsoft wants to treat their consumers like they don't own what they've bought, then I won't be buying. And here I thought Always Online was the worst move they'd make.

Hello, Sony, you're looking pretty sexy over there in that little black dress.

They're seriously going through with the used game fee? Well that's idiotic in more ways than one. And how would game rentals work then? It's going to be the same issue that people had with online passes at this rate.

Edit: The Xbox Support twitter account said that the "rumor" of a used game installation fee isn't true at all. Just throwing that out there.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

4. ONLY 8 GB of RAM? Completely standard... 16 GB should have been the norm if you want to future-proof.

This. If the freaking laptop I bought over a year ago is as powerful as your 'next gen' console, you're doing something wrong...
Plus, those superfluous OS's aren't exactly going to help things run smoothly, are they?

Also: Pay to play used games? WTF. Bad. Bad bad bad bad.

 

[Quazimofo]

That has to be the UGLIEST box I have ever seen. No charm. None. Just a big black brick.

MS seems to have a square aesthetic going on right now. It's fitting, because only squares are this dumb.

*badum ching*

I'ts something of a fitting analogy too. The Xbone is now without a doubt a square peg trying to fit into the round hole that is the desires of their customers.

Also, I can't help but wonder why 3 operating systems. It just seems excessive. I don't know much about coding, so I can't really comment on it with any weight, though I really don't get why they needed to choke up half of the advertised RAM with thrice as many operating systems as most PCs have which can do most of the same shit the Xbone can. If with a little bit of hassle. Though any patient man can find great things among the PC modders. Great things. And a lot of stupid shit that is mostly for vanity's sake but still fun as hell.

 

[Sir Christopher McFarlane]

Apparently you have to install games to a single account to play them. If another account wants to play the game, they have to pay a fee.

So yeah... looks like Microsoft are actually going to try and stamp down on used games sales.

Nice knowing you Microsoft. Looks like the three horse race just lost a horse.

That would be true if gamers actually rebelled against that kind of business practice, but you know they don't. Much like game-breaking DRM, gamers will eat it with a spoon. My prediction anyway.

 

[Yuuki]

4. ONLY 8 GB of RAM? Completely standard... 16 GB should have been the norm if you want to future-proof.

This. If the freaking laptop I bought over a year ago is as powerful as your 'next gen' console, you're doing something wrong...

Out of all the things to pick on...RAM? Really?

Why can't people understand that consoles don't run massive operating systems with countless processes running in the background? And even then, the only way I can genuinely finish all 8GB RAM on my PC is if I simultaneously run 2 games at the same time while having Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Premier loaded with projects. Yeah, I don't think a console is going to be doing that.

The most XBox One is doing is running one game at a time, while keeping an eye on movies/internet in the background. That's it. You can accomplish that with 2GB RAM on a PC, hell even 1GB is enough since the console OS is so lightweight. Phones can multitask just as well with far less RAM.
The only reasons MS gave it 8GB is to futureproof the hell out of it, it will be a LONG time before devs come even close to exhausting that memory. Current-gen consoles are running games like Crysis 3 and BF3 with 512mb RAM, that's how much devs can cut corners if need be.

Jeez.

Now continue ranting about the more important stuff

 

[GonzoGamer]

I was also very disappointed with the whole Microsoft/EA collaboration. This seems like two evil masterminds joining up to beat a superhero, though honestly I have no idea who the hero is in this scenario. Perhaps the player?

Well, we/the consumer have taken quite a beating this generation: drm, online pass, defective consoles, poorly supported consoles, extra fees, and all the other things you hear about on Jimquisition.

So far what I've heard is very light on actual info and they're being very careful about what exactly they're saying which leads me to believe that they're still testing the fan-waters to see how much they can get away with. It's still a we'll see situation.

 

[GAunderrated]

Dear God when I came back from my final and went to youtube to watch the reveal I thought I maybe accidentally watched a parody of the reveal.

Glad Microsoft and Sony are saving me money this generation. I normally own all consoles + a nice PC but looks like my PC will have a little extra sexy cash.

 

[Kingpopadopalus]

I don't know if this has been said yet but no replaceable hard drive but then external hard drives are supported so get ready to pay 130 more bucks for another 6 games until you have to buy another.

 

[Dryk]

This is a complete farce. There have been rumours about required connectivity for months. A smart company would spend that time to organise a united front for their announcement. But here we are, and apparently nobody at Microsoft has a clue what's going on with this console.