Yes I smoke.. So I'm the devil now?

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Kurai Angelo

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isometry said:
Kurai Angelo said:
nbamaniac said:
Cigs have this eloquent taste
I couldn't give two shits that you smoke... I'm probably one of the minority that is both bewildered and confused by this painfully bad phrase. Please use more appropriate description if you insist on being so pretentious.
Well obviously you're bewildered because you don't have any experience with quality tobacco. Maybe you can start to learn from watching these videos:

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/videos
I'm bewildered by your complete lack of understanding and misuse of the word 'eloquent'. For the record I've smoked for just over 5 years, so I'll pass on the videos thanks. Plus, I thought you smoked four cigarettes a day, why are you linking 'cigaraficionado'? I'm willing to bet a real cigar hasn't touched your lips.
 

nbamaniac

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Kurai Angelo said:
isometry said:
Kurai Angelo said:
nbamaniac said:
Cigs have this eloquent taste
I couldn't give two shits that you smoke... I'm probably one of the minority that is both bewildered and confused by this painfully bad phrase. Please use more appropriate description if you insist on being so pretentious.
Well obviously you're bewildered because you don't have any experience with quality tobacco. Maybe you can start to learn from watching these videos:

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/videos
I'm bewildered by your complete lack of understanding and misuse of the word 'eloquent'. For the record I've smoked for just over 5 years, so I'll pass on the videos thanks. Plus, I thought you smoked four cigarettes a day, why are you linking 'cigaraficionado'? I'm willing to bet a real cigar hasn't touched your lips.
Ehhh are you mistaking me for someone else? I'm pretty sure I didn't post that link..

Misunderstanding?
 

Kurai Angelo

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nbamaniac said:
Kurai Angelo said:
isometry said:
Kurai Angelo said:
nbamaniac said:
Cigs have this eloquent taste
I couldn't give two shits that you smoke... I'm probably one of the minority that is both bewildered and confused by this painfully bad phrase. Please use more appropriate description if you insist on being so pretentious.
Well obviously you're bewildered because you don't have any experience with quality tobacco. Maybe you can start to learn from watching these videos:

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/videos
I'm bewildered by your complete lack of understanding and misuse of the word 'eloquent'. For the record I've smoked for just over 5 years, so I'll pass on the videos thanks. Plus, I thought you smoked four cigarettes a day, why are you linking 'cigaraficionado'? I'm willing to bet a real cigar hasn't touched your lips.
Ehhh are you mistaking me for someone else? I'm pretty sure I didn't post that link..

Misunderstanding?
Ah touche, haha. My bad. Sorry about that, this lack of sleep business is definetly affecting my concentration.
 

a ginger491

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I'm totally cool with smokers. It's their right and you shouldn't be treated like the plague. If you know the risk and-Wait a minute I remember saying this already, one moment. (trolls through recent posts) Here it is!

smokers have practically been demonized ever since the anti smoking campaigns started. In America it's as if smoking makes one an inherently bad person, which is just plain wrong. Plenty of times I've seen someone on the street that looks like a perfectly upstanding citizen who happens to be smoking, and people give them this disgusted look and tell them they need help or some other equally condescending thing, almost as if they're less of a person because of it. It just makes me angry that people think it's alright to treat people like dirt because of something as trivial as a cigarette.
 

KingofallCosmos

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TehCookie said:
You're not a devil, you smell like shit. I'm going to treat you the same as people who don't shower or put on too much cologne. AKA cough and gag when I walk by. It's always funny because the only people who react are the ones who know they stink.
Just for some perspective, I suffer from anxiety disorder and therefor tend to sweat like a pig. You can't know that when I'm walking down the street.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't assume...
 

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KingofallCosmos said:
TehCookie said:
You're not a devil, you smell like shit. I'm going to treat you the same as people who don't shower or put on too much cologne. AKA cough and gag when I walk by. It's always funny because the only people who react are the ones who know they stink.
Just for some perspective, I suffer from anxiety disorder and therefor tend to sweat like a pig. You can't know that when I'm walking down the street.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't assume...
Everyone has problems, my problem is a lack of empathy for people who say I should treat them differently because of their problem (and most people in general). If you smell so bad it disturbs me I am going to do something even if it's just asking a friend rather loudly, "What is that awful smell?" If it's you, you should feel bad. I'm sharing the feeling. If it's not you, then why do you feel guilty?
 

DiMono

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I think it's stupid to willingly do something that shortens your lifespan and raises your risk of disease, let alone to pay for the privilege. Cigarettes literally contain bleach, and you're paying a company so you can breathe it into your lungs. I think it's stupid, but I'm not about to try to stop you from doing it.

What I take offense to is when someone smokes a cigarette in such a way/place that I am forced to breathe their smoke too. IMO, the problem with cigarettes isn't that it's harmful to the smoker - their bed, let them lie in it - it's that it's harmful to everyone else around them. The smoker is forcing everyone else to smoke their cigarette too. If you want to mess up your lungs, more power to you. But don't expect me to let you mess up my lungs.

Now, nbamaniac, you've said that you're considerate and try to keep your smoke to yourself. I respect that. I still think it's stupid that you smoke, but it's your choice and you're doing what you can to keep it as a choice that's only yours. Unfortunately there are a lot of smokers out there who are seemingly of the opinion that they can smoke anywhere they want, and screw anyone else. Those are the assholes I have a problem with.
 

GigaHz

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Naw, I don't think you're the devil.

I just think you're weak willed for getting addicted to them.

I smoke on occasion with friends and even though I have a pack of cigarettes, I don't smoke alone.

That's right /promode *flex

I kid. Those uppity non-smoker types wouldn't be so uppity if they had an occasional smoke.
 

idarkphoenixi

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So many people say they don't care about the effects of smoking...which just amazes me.

Yes, your life will be cut shorter but you wont just happen to pass away peacefully 10years earlier. You'll be crippled, clutching at an oxygen tank and unable to do anything for yourself. Suffering for years, in pain and without any dignity. You probably won't even be able to talk if it affects your throat.

Lung cancer is nothing to scoff about. It's serious business and if you're willing to go through that just for some quick highs on a piece of shredded tobacco then whatever, don't say I didn't warn you.
 

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ace_of_something said:
Meh, doesn't make you evil. It's just a lot of people who do smoke are really inconsiderate of those who don't and it's a bad habit in plain view.
I'm going to agree with Ace over here. But another reason I feel I should add is that when people I do care about smoke (not the tools that give smokers a bad name), it is somewhat upsetting, mainly because a lot of them started either, before they knew the risks of smoking (middle-aged family-friends), or because they were going through an angsty teenage period and were either pressured into it or decided to 'rebel' for no reason. But a lot of the time, they don't start smoking because they like the taste and it makes them feel good, and by the time they learn the risks (physical, financial or social) they are already addicted.

It just upsets me to see my friends take up not only a self-destructive habit, but an addictive one, for stupid reasons. It's like like a physical parallel to watching a friend become depressed and self-harming. It's a down-ward spiral and it is made worse by the fact that nothing I can think to do would help them.

However, if one of my friends was to take up smoking because they genuinely enjoyed it, while I may disagree with it, I'd respect their decision, but that rarely ever happens. So the two main groups I see smoking are those who are massive self-righteous tools about it, or are people who went through a bad or ignorant phase and wound up addicted later down the track.
 

GigaHz

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Deshara said:
There's a social stigma against smoking. Everyone's pushing it: The health advocators, environmentalists, the communistically minded, and the government via taxation. Face it: We, as a people, are sick of smoking. You're gonna be looked down on it in the same way that someone who eats horses to calm their nerves get looked down on. We don't like it, and neither should you.
But in all fairness, burgers made from horse are incredibly tasty.

:)
 

Virmire

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You are in the wrong if your doing it near people who do not want you too, yes. People have a right to be annoyed if they are forced to inhale second hand smoke, but that is a matter of courtesy. Other then that, people have no right to judge you for anything.
 

SeaTimeless

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Ugh, dirty habit. Nothing against smokers themselves, I just can't stand the smell that permeates their skin, clothes, car, throat, and the teeth coloring. Also, don't smoke in public places. That is obnoxious. Find the most secluded place possible and smoke there.
 

KingofallCosmos

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TehCookie said:
KingofallCosmos said:
TehCookie said:
You're not a devil, you smell like shit. I'm going to treat you the same as people who don't shower or put on too much cologne. AKA cough and gag when I walk by. It's always funny because the only people who react are the ones who know they stink.
Just for some perspective, I suffer from anxiety disorder and therefor tend to sweat like a pig. You can't know that when I'm walking down the street.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't assume...
Everyone has problems, my problem is a lack of empathy for people who say I should treat them differently because of their problem (and most people in general). If you smell so bad it disturbs me I am going to do something even if it's just asking a friend rather loudly, "What is that awful smell?" If it's you, you should feel bad. I'm sharing the feeling. If it's not you, then why do you feel guilty?
So you just do your thing and I'll draw my own conclusions on what kind of person you are. I guess that's fair :)