Yes I smoke.. So I'm the devil now?

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Iron Criterion

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ace_of_something said:
Meh, doesn't make you evil. It's just a lot of people who do smoke are really inconsiderate of those who don't and it's a bad habit in plain view.
This. Plus there is no real reason to smoke. Most people get into smoking due to peer pressure or to 'look cool' and then they get hooked. BUT, no one should be able to tell anyone else what to do as long as the smokers don't impose on the non-smokers - I.E. exhaling smoke in my face.
 

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Oh look, another self-righteous "It appears you all don't like smoking, well I smoke and fuck you" thread. You know you didn't have to make a topic to bring attention to your habit. You could have read another topic with the OP doing the same thing, but no, you wanted to be the OP this time.
 

Aurora Firestorm

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I don't understand why tobacco is permitted but pot is banned. Seriously, pot doesn't give you freaking *cancer.*

I cough and can't breathe well when I walk past doorways where people are lingering and smoking. My friend has asthma and has serious trouble with this. As I live in the city where smoking in public buildings isn't allowed, this is pretty much *every ten feet.* It makes everything around the person smell like ass. My mom smoked for years, and back when I was a kid, she finally quit and I suddenly realized how everything that she was around very often, smelled like smoke.

It seems like older people smoke more than younger, so I hope this peters out. Not only does it antagonize other people by existing (especially for people with good noses, who can sniff out your cancer sticks from weirdly great distances), but it hurts you, hurts your family and friends (secondhand smoke, yo), and in the end it's supporting a ton of nasty advertising, psychological screwage, and bad research. The people that make cigarettes don't care two craps that they're killing people. I'd much rather not support heartless jerks like that.

In short, I hope it's banned someday. That, and anyone who smokes around their kids should be prosecuted.
 

Nyaliva

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nbamaniac said:
Just a few questions.

1: Are you a consenting adult?
2: Do you know the dangers of smoking?
3: Do you smoke (a)out of habit, (b)because it tastes good or (c)because you feel pressured to?
4: Do you respect people who don't smoke?

So long as your answers aren't no, no, (c)(or sometimes (a)) and why should I, then no-one can argue. Actually, from your OP and subsequent edits, you sound like one of the better smokers I've come across.

The main problems I find is people smoke for the wrong reasons and they don't care how people who don't smoke feel about it. I know it sounds pretentious but if you don't like smoking, you shouldn't be forced to tolerate it. From the sound of it, you're pretty courtious, and you don't seem to be a slave to it which is both rare and refreshing. That's the problem, people assume that if you smoke then you spend $20 a day and NEED a cigarette every half hour, throwing your families needs to the wayside for the sake of killing yourself. I'd say ignore them and do as you please but I know how self-righteous non-smokers can be.

My advice, start smoking a pipe. I hear it tastes better and it looks dignified rather than...well bogany...I've never liked the look of someone smoking a cigarette sorry. :p
 

nbamaniac

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z121231211 said:
Oh look, another self-righteous "It appears you all don't like smoking, well I smoke and fuck you" thread. You know you didn't have to make a topic to bring attention to your habit. You could have read another topic with the OP doing the same thing, but no, you wanted to be the OP this time.
Yea I'm very self-righteous. *snicker*

If I think like you, then I would have been offended. *Buzz* Try again!
 

Sion_Barzahd

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Are you the devil? Well you are breathing smoke....

Are you a bad person for smoking? Hey keep it out my face and i really couldn't care! ^_^

as long as you can stop if you actually need to, and aren't doing it for some superficial reason like "Cause thats what cool kids do" its your life choice.
 

DYin01

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Your habit is my main allergy. Literally, I'm as asthmatic. I hate it that most of my friends smoke. They're great people, except for that detail. If I hang out at some of my friends' houses, I know I can't stay for too long or I'll get trouble breathing. Besides that, my clothes and hair will smell terrible.

It's a shitty habit. The habit on it's own is bad. It doesn't make you neccesarilly bad as a person, that's just silly. Honestly though, if I'm sitting at a bus stop waiting for the bus, and you come sit next to me and light one up to pass time, you're an asshole.
 

DYin01

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nbamaniac said:
z121231211 said:
Oh look, another self-righteous "It appears you all don't like smoking, well I smoke and fuck you" thread. You know you didn't have to make a topic to bring attention to your habit. You could have read another topic with the OP doing the same thing, but no, you wanted to be the OP this time.
Yea I'm very self-righteous. *snicker*

If I think like you, then I would have been offended. *Buzz* Try again!
By the way, that condescending snickering makes you come off as a dick.
 

cynicalsaint1

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Nothing wrong with smoking as long as you aren't rude about it.

I myself have an on again off again relationship with smoking, and am currently trying to quit for about the third time. It was a lot easier when I had a girlfriend to support me.

I don't smoke in public places though, and I don't go out after having smoked unless I've had a shower and get a clean change of clothes. Its strange - I enjoy smoking but I absolutely hate the smell it leaves behind, going out like that doesn't strike me as particularly different from going out with bad BO.

In fact most people who know probably don't know that I smoke.
 

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I don't smoke but I do know co-workers and friends who do and they are not pricks about it.
as long as your aware of the consequences and don't get prissy if people keep on saying what your doing to yourself then go ahead.
 

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I dunno why people hate smokers, got trouble with that myself because I mostly reek of cigarettes. Only thing you're doing wrong is smoking Marlboro, Lucky Strike is the right way!
 

sheah1

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In my opinion it's pretty stupid, since the only reason you'll actually want to smoke is if you smoke. I just don't understand why someone would start smoking.
 

shasjas

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i dont like it because its stinks, and it makes you stink. if you smoke outside, and then thoroughly brush your teeth and smother yourself in deodorant or change clothes, or just dont get too close, then i have no problem.

but the smell of a heavy smoker is disgusting and hard for him/her to get rid of.
 

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I would like to say that, like most of these lifestyle choice things on the Escapist, I wholeheartedly do not care. Personally, I find the anti-smoking ads much more annoying than anything that cigarette companies do. Those who find smoking dangerous and cigarette companies evil are fine to hold their opinion, but don't preach from your supposed moral high ground at me.
 

Denamic

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No, you're not the devil.
You're just a part of a group of people that are often regarded as obnoxious.
For example, people smoking by door opening or on sidewalks.
Someone taking a shit on the sidewalk as I walk past is about as pleasant as walking past as a smoker, or worse, a group of smokers.
Not to mention it's an incredibly idiotic habit.
It has no benefit and it's self-destructive, not only increasing the chance of cancer in yourself, but also in your peers.
It also directly affects your lungs and cardiovascular system negatively.

And no, it has no 'calming effect'.
That's your addiction being sated.
Everyone else feels like that all the time.

I respect your choice, but you lose my respect because of it.
 

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nbamaniac said:
I have always wondered before why people smoke, but I never even looked down on them. That was 2 years ago; now I'm a regular smoker of at least 4 cigs per day. Cigs have this eloquent taste, and because of this I smoke if I'm doing nothing just to remove my boredom (Nothing like a good ole Marlboro to liven up my day). During these 2 years, I have discovered one thing: There are a lot of self-righteous pricks who think lowly of me and our certain category.

Example statement that I overheard just a few days ago:

"Ugh, I don't smoke like him. I'm not an ex-convict."

I turned and looked for the guy (I'm pretty sure from the pitch of the voice) to confront him but didn't find him because either the guy was a ninja or my eyes were broken.

Question: Pretty much what the title says.

Off T: Noticed my join date in the Escapist jumped to 1970 o_O.. Glitch?

EDIT: No, I never "smoke people in the face", I consider it rude anyway and don't worry I strictly follow "no Smoking" policies. I'm also pretty much aware that we stink. Yeah I'm a dirty bastard blabla. I'm just disappointed at the fact that people here in our area don't use THESE as their reasons but rather rely on a defective moral crapfest.

And yeah I know the dangers of smoking, I bet even a dog would know that. I'm not that too concerned about my life span though; if I die because of this then so be it. It's not like I lived a miserable life.

EDIT2: To everyone who commented that I'm stupid because I smoke, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. You all changed my life completely. >xD

Lol seriously, no offense taken. ;)

EDIT3: About the smoke "flavors", there is not one bit of exaggeration in that statement. I really have a knack for tobacco smoke. Try letting me smoke something that smells like vehicle exhaust, then no I wouldn't continue my smoking habit.

Oh yeah I'm REALLY pretentious for just describing what I REALLY smell from cig-sticks. :) *game buzz* Try again folks! :p

EDIT4: Escapist "intellectuals" are funny. xD
ill get this out of the way. you should quit. that said i know its not as easy as just stoping and 4 cigs per day is actually not that bad and i cant stress this enough you are not the devil or an idiot. (you were when you started but we all do stupid things:) as a person who doesnt smoke but lives with smokers i say tell the people who ***** at you without knowlage of what they are talking about (ie doctors) to go to hell and take their opinion with them.
 

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DYin01 said:
nbamaniac said:
z121231211 said:
Oh look, another self-righteous "It appears you all don't like smoking, well I smoke and fuck you" thread. You know you didn't have to make a topic to bring attention to your habit. You could have read another topic with the OP doing the same thing, but no, you wanted to be the OP this time.
Yea I'm very self-righteous. *snicker*

If I think like you, then I would have been offended. *Buzz* Try again!
By the way, that condescending snickering makes you come off as a dick.
He brought up a personal experience and made a post out of it. Big deal. Just like many on off topic. Should we say, "Oh, there's already been drinking/car accidents/depression posts. You just want to be the center of attention, and are therefore an ass."

Lets get off our soapboxes -.-
 

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DYin01 said:
It's a shitty habit. The habit on it's own is bad. It doesn't make you neccesarilly bad as a person, that's just silly. Honestly though, if I'm sitting at a bus stop waiting for the bus, and you come sit next to me and light one up to pass time, you're an asshole.
Agreed.

If I'm to respect your choice by not giving you a hard time (not that I would) about smoking, you should do me a favour and not smoke next to me (at least without asking me first, then that shows me you're a considerate enough person).

I mean, when my co-worker Ina gives me a ride home from work some mornings (while our manager watches the till for us because she's awesome), she'll usually smoke while driving and I don't really care then because it'd be rude of me to berate her (not that I usually berate anyone) about it when she's nice enough to give me a ride home in the first place. And sometimes when my co-workers want to have a smoke break in the mornings before I go home, I watch the till for them because it's called teamwork. That, and I love my co-workers. :p

That said, other than situations like this, I'm very anti-smoking. The habit itself is horrific enough (in my mind). However, since starting this job well over a year ago, my hatred of smoking has gone right up.

Here's the thing: I hate smoking but I respect your right to do so. And being a smoker doesn't automatically make you a bad person, and I know this because I know many people who smoke but are also very nice. However, I will consider you worthless trash if you use your habit of smoking as an excuse to be a dick.

Real examples of this include:
- Taking a long time to decide what cigarettes you want to buy when there's a line of people behind you and you won't let me serve them while you're still deciding even though the guy behind you only needs to pass me a $20 note and he's done. And meanwhile you're still hogging up the counter and refuse to step aside, even just temporarily.
- When I'm doing something that takes me a while because the customer in front of you has a Mobilcard and I have to do a whole lot of stuff with the T4100 before he can input his PIN and let it process, coming in and yelling "Hurry up man I need my smokes" is not going to make me go any faster.
- Yelling "I JUST WANT TO BUY SOME SMOKES MAN, IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK" when I appear, even though I was in the toilet or you didn't even bother to use the doorbell to let me know you were there in the first place.

If you smoke, don't be a dick about it.

And if you hate smoking, don't be a dick about that either.