You Can't Be the Hero If You're the Rapist

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5stringedbandit

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What people are neglectful to realize is that this is just a game. No real people are getting raped, surely its just a horrible concept but still how is it different to such games as Grand Theft Auto?

Also I wonder what the game play is like...
 

londelen

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Banning rape games will put rape rates on the rise. Japan, previously relatively lax on issues such as this, Had some of the lowest rape rates in the world. Especially compared to Canada and the U.S. who are, as you can see, much stricter on such things.
Denying potential rapists in harmless release in a game will cause more and more to go out onto the streets and actually rape people.
 

fedpayne

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Can we also assume that these games are for titilation? Which somehow in my eyes makes them worse.
 

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Charli said:
Even Hitler was a hero to 'somebody', at some point.

Thats pretty much it from me.

The concept of a hero is pretty subjective to most people when you get down to it, so it's hard to really define it. This topic is also pretty redundant, but hell I've posted in it.

Serial rapist could be a hero to some fucked up person, couldn't he?

But yeah to most people I'd imagine not, but the sentence 'you can't be the hero if you're the rapist' isn't entirely correct, 'you can't be an upstanding morally respected member of society if you're the rapist'? Oh absolutely.
On this note i feel i should point the powerful Greek hero Theseus (guy who killed the minotaur) was a notable rapist and he was of the great heroes of Greek myth.
 

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WrongSprite said:
Cliff_m85 said:
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MaxTheReaper said:
Just responding to the question in the OP: Because murder can be justified.
See also: Dexter.

Rape can never serve a good purpose.

And now to read.
I give you GTA4. Is cutting down civilians justified? Then maybe they should both be banned.
Technically you aren't forced to cut down civilians.
Does it matter...? The possibility is there, and you know that a lot of people are going to do it.
Fallout 3
you get the choice, kill innocents or save innocents. it lets you see what each would be like.
anyways, i personally don't like the idea of rape games but hey if someone wants to play them, that is their choice.
Terminalchaos said:
Good article Malygris. As Voltaire says: "I may not agree with you but I'll defend to the death your right to speak." Free speech trumps personal offense.

If you find rape games so offensive make a game where you hunt down and kill rapists.
That is one of my favorite quotes.
I don't like first person shooters either but i'm not going to demand a ban on them just for it.....i just won't play them. simple as that.
 

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To me, Rape games shouldn't be made. Its just immoral and glorify rape to me. Now you going to say the same thing about Manhunt and possible GTA games, but I wouldn't count GTA games, since your given a choice to actually kill the people. But for manhunt, yeah, it might glorify gore/violence, but think about the whole story/setting of the game. (talking about the first Manhunt) If I remember right, you were frame for something, and given the death sentence, from there you are "killed" and the ship off to some rich guy playground so he can video type you for a TV Show.

To me, its part of the story, you defend yourself from the psychos that are trying to kill you. Yes, they might have taken the gore a bit to far, but still point is, that's the story of the game. Rape on the other hand, like said, can never be justified, so who ever says it can, is dead wrong. Another thing is, what about real rape victims? Don't they have a say in this? Of course you could counter and say what about murder victoms...but to counter this, most games your not the psycho killer, your the "hero". You killing people who are trying to kill you, or do harm to you or your loved ones. While in rape, your hurting people love ones and such.

Also the people who are afraid that if they ban this game, then they will ban more games, please grow up and use your head. They won't ban all games due to this one game. This game is very immoral , and should never have been made. Its not the fact that "no one gets hurt." its the fact that is glorify rape, and and goes against everything I hate about this world. I have tons of cousins that are girls, and I would kill the guy who would rape any one of them. Its worst the murder, its serves no point at all but to some sick person fantasies, which could lead to someone getting rape in real life.

Now if the "rape" is use in the story, and your not the one doing it, and it doesn't show the person getting rape, then fine...w/e...Idc much about that as it in the story, and your probably are going to make that son of a ***** pay for what he did. But like I said, as long as your not the one doing it, or you see it being down.

As for a final note, yes, guys can get rape to by woman. But its very unlikely, and most guys rape woman. So guys, use your brain, and think right. These games should never be made, and should be ban and the guys who made them should lose their jobs.

Now im done posting, so don't think I will post again if anyone reply to this comment.
 

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Terminalchaos said:
Good article Malygris. As Voltaire says: "I may not agree with you but I'll defend to the death your right to speak." Free speech trumps personal offense.

If you find rape games so offensive make a game where you hunt down and kill rapists.
That would be f*cking awesome!!!
But i don't believe the game should have been banned i mean sure in some games murder is justified, is MadWorld going to be banned?
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
The infamous SCAMola said:
Sometimes it can, as demonstrated by my dear friend Louis CK:


(I know, it's creeping me out too, I don't know how I can find all of this stuff that is pertinent to our discussion)
...Okay, fine, rape is acceptable if you're going back in time to rape Hitler.
But that's it.
In The Twilight Zone 2002-2003 revival, there is an episode in which a character (played by Katherine Heigl) goes back in time to assassinate Adolf Hitler while he is a baby. She kills the baby (whom she presumes to be actual Adolf Hitler), but the nanny (discovering the death) replaces the baby with a street gypsy's baby, and she presents this baby to the father as his own. The father proceeds to introduce this son to his guests as "Adolf", presumably the Adolf Hitler known to history in the first place.

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_paradox

Raping Hitler would be what turned him evil.
 

pirateninj4

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This article makes a good point, really we should be proactively not buying these products so that these developers are forced into the acceptable market.
 

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I dislike rape, but killing has a point.

Also, I disagree somewhat, I enjoy games where you kill people needlessly and are evil, but I dislike the idea of a rape game.
 

Kilowog17

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I have to ask...
Why would you WANT to play a game with which the premise is raping people?
To be honest I would care if this game came to North America.
Got branded an 'E' rating.
Had a huge promotional display and billboards outside Wal-Mart.
WE'VE GOT THE RAPE GAME!, they would say and I couldn't care less because -

Why would you spend $70 on a game to simulate raping someone when you could -
A.) Have sex with your girl/boy friend?
B.) Have sex with a hooker (Where I'm from that cost less than seventy dollars too.
and finally?
C.) Have a little dignity?
 

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I personaly think rape is one of the worst things ever, but I'm not upset about this stupid game, Japan has many more like it, and even worse ones.
I can't believe what an uproar this news have caused. This game has actually been out for quite a few years, as evident in this site's 2007 review of the game.
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/hentai-game-reviews/rapelay.php)
 

Mjolnir07

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Are we honestly surprised, has anyone seen Japanese porno? Men in japan are some of the most sexually oppressed and depraved men in a 1st world country, most of their fantasies revolve around getting women they can't have. Womens fashion style over there fluxuates between cyber punk barbie and schoolaged hooker, it's safe to say that of all the shit that goes on in the heads of the male population up there rape is the least mortifying. Not to generalize or be racist, I'm just rationalizing what must be the reason behind thinking that leads to a games like these. Am I wrong? Additionally, if they're raping women in a videogame does that encourage them to go out and rape real women or does it give them an alternative to it?
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
It's kinda weird that all the people in this thread who are mortified by this game aren't saying more about how GTA glorifies the crime of murdering prostitutes after using them sexually.
I'm not sure it glorifies it.
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
Knight Templar said:
Cheeze_Pavilion said:
It's kinda weird that all the people in this thread who are mortified by this game aren't saying more about how GTA glorifies the crime of murdering prostitutes after using them sexually.
I'm not sure it glorifies it.
Even if it doesn't, what about rewarding players with health for engaging in an act of prostitution? Why isn't there concern with depicting the exploitation of women in that way? I mean, there might be an argument that prostitution isn't exploitation, but, I don't think you can make it on the back--no pun intended--of the prostitutes depicted in GTA.
Hiring a prostitute won't heal a broken leg and neither should it in a videogame. Otherwise everyone either goes wtf? Or Fox news declares that games are persuading children to prostitution.
There is prositution in reality and GTA 4 is trying to be realistic so just like in real life, if hiring a prostitute doesn't make you happy in the pants - too bad.