Yeah, no. I mean if my daughters are coming to me and being all "we're FUCKING, DAD! DEAL WITH IT!" I'm kicking them out of the house.
Then I'll probably hang myself.
Then I'll probably hang myself.
You discover your children are attracted to each other...
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I honestly don't know, I would have to know all the details, like what kind of kids they are. They might just be horny little fucks that think sex is much easier if you don't have to go out in the world to find it. I know if I had a sibling that I fell in love with, what family I have would have disowned me. I have siblings out in the world that I have never met, I have thought to myself sometimes what would happen if I fell in love with them, would that change anything? Probably not. They would only be half-siblings anyway. Fathers side.
I honestly don't know how I would feel though. If I thought they were actually in love, kind of like Jamie and Cersei, I probably wouldn't try to stop it. Thankfully this is not a situation I'll ever find myself in.
I honestly don't know how I would feel though. If I thought they were actually in love, kind of like Jamie and Cersei, I probably wouldn't try to stop it. Thankfully this is not a situation I'll ever find myself in.
I.. can't remember. I think it was published by a few magazines. I'll see if I can find it.Teh_Moose said:
Edit: Sadly, I cou;ldn't find the article itself. I think it was this magazine [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That%27s_Life_%28magazine%29] that published the story. The woman did wish to stay mostly anonyous, though.
I also just now realised my typo at the bottom of my message. Damnit, I'm tired.
Seriously, the fuck?
I'd consider myself a failure as a father because by that age my children would know the difference between what is socially acceptable and what is not. Incest is one of those things that is just...no, no matter what way you go about rationalizing it.
Being that these two hypothetical children of mine have been raised together, by my teachings, it's incredibly unlikely that any situation like this would ever happen in my case.
I'd consider myself a failure as a father because by that age my children would know the difference between what is socially acceptable and what is not. Incest is one of those things that is just...no, no matter what way you go about rationalizing it.
Being that these two hypothetical children of mine have been raised together, by my teachings, it's incredibly unlikely that any situation like this would ever happen in my case.
You do realize that LetalisK's post was more of a joke targeting the fact that as humans we tend to violently lash out at what makes us uncomfortable, yes?Jusey1 said:
OT: Being gay myself, I would most certainly support my hypothetical children if they were gay.
As for the topic of incest, if I had found out that it was simply sexual experimentation, in my current mindset, I wouldn't have that much of a fuss about it. They did get to that age where a little experimentation happens sometimes (Lord knows I did.)
Now, if it was full on relationship, I would not condemn them, but I would have to sit with them and calmly talk about it with them.
I did not and am not surprised.Dr. Thrax said:
Why did you snip out the part of my quote that addresses this particular line of reasoning?[/quote]
I did not wish to bother with your whole post. Just that one part caught my eyes and I replied to it only.
Depends, really (e.g. what kind of children they are, how close they are, if they'd been sexually abused). I'd probably just attempt to staunchly deny and ignore it, which is why I'd be a shit parent. If they were, like, under 10 or something, I might just put it down to "playing doctor". But if they were teenage...yeah, I'd be like, "What the fuck happened there, then?"
Woah, have you been reading my mind? My next writing project includes two twin sisters (both in early 20s) who are in a lesbian relationship together. SPOILER - One is a main character later, the other dies and her murder is a key plot point. Part of the development of these two though, and their interactions with other characters, includes how uncomfortable some people are to the situation, and how the main protagonist has already known them for several years so is at least used to the whole thing.
Anyhow, I don't know how I'd react in real life if this happened, since I don't have kids and wouldn't know until it actually happened. At any rate, my own thoughts on incest are a bit of a tricky topic and could be considered a bit controversial. In essence I think incest shouldn't be demonised PROVIDED it's between consenting adults only, and provided there's no children born as a result. So keep the rubbers on, people! That's where the problem is though, most people will just say "urrrrgh, squick!" at the idea of two relatives boning, whereas I see it as just another aspect of human sexuality. I don't want to get with any of my relatives, and definitely don't want to indulge in incest myself - the closest I've come is finding two girls who I have only met once or twice each, who are second cousins of mine, rather attractive. Nothing more. However, if someone else finds his sister to be attractive and nice and develops feelings for her, and she feels the same way about him, and they're both of legal age and able to make a sane and sensible decision themselves, then I don't see why they should be vilified for being in love.
At that point, then, the issue comes more onto the fact that it's two sisters or two brothers. In that case, I don't have any problems with gay people in any way shape or form. So it wouldn't be a problem in that respect, at least not as far as I'm concerned. Incidentally, before some people try bringing out the religious argument, don't forget there's plenty of incest in the Bible, not to mention the rarely-discussed topic of Adam and Eve's children...
Anyhow, I don't know how I'd react in real life if this happened, since I don't have kids and wouldn't know until it actually happened. At any rate, my own thoughts on incest are a bit of a tricky topic and could be considered a bit controversial. In essence I think incest shouldn't be demonised PROVIDED it's between consenting adults only, and provided there's no children born as a result. So keep the rubbers on, people! That's where the problem is though, most people will just say "urrrrgh, squick!" at the idea of two relatives boning, whereas I see it as just another aspect of human sexuality. I don't want to get with any of my relatives, and definitely don't want to indulge in incest myself - the closest I've come is finding two girls who I have only met once or twice each, who are second cousins of mine, rather attractive. Nothing more. However, if someone else finds his sister to be attractive and nice and develops feelings for her, and she feels the same way about him, and they're both of legal age and able to make a sane and sensible decision themselves, then I don't see why they should be vilified for being in love.
At that point, then, the issue comes more onto the fact that it's two sisters or two brothers. In that case, I don't have any problems with gay people in any way shape or form. So it wouldn't be a problem in that respect, at least not as far as I'm concerned. Incidentally, before some people try bringing out the religious argument, don't forget there's plenty of incest in the Bible, not to mention the rarely-discussed topic of Adam and Eve's children...
This is statistically unlikely as far as I understand things. Even for opposite sex children it is unlikely. Pheromone signs and other super-subtle physiological things guard against attraction between closely related individuals. I'm sure plenty of people go through a phase where they feel like a sibling is the only one who understands them due to shared circumstances or whatever, which might generate a romantic feeling in some, but long-term I'm thinking the biology wins out.chinangel said:
As for what I'd say? 14 / 16 years old? no. I don't have kids yet, but I don't want mine dating at 14 at all, in or outside the family (which has additional issues obviously) and I'd expect my 16 year old not to take advantage of my 14 year old in a romantic manner. Years of difference between partners are bigger the younger the partners are - in any event, and especially in this situation I would strongly suspect something was wrong with my 16 year old that was endangering my 14 year old, which would require some action on my part as a parent.
The same-sex variable doesn't make any difference to my answer. The lack of danger of an impaired child resulting from some union of the two - well I simply don't want my 14 / 16 year old making children of their own in any situation. Or having sex that won't produce children, for that matter.
Love is love but children (and 14/ 16 means children, even if they are "teens") aren't usually versed on the full spectrum of love - love like family, love like friend, love like lover, etc. Being siblings, I'd assume they were confused about the love like family vs. love like lover.
So - as their parent, to answer your primary question - I would talk to them about it, at length and if they did not see my point of view I would eventually separate them by fostering them out to other relatives for a summer and wait for the situation to resolve itself - because "love" at 14 / 16 is not usually a lasting thing (read: it usually lasts until one pisses the other off or either one sees someone else they "love" more).
I dunno.
I'd probably start with calling "The Missus" into the room. Then I'd say some complete gibberish followed by me fainting.
I'd probably start with calling "The Missus" into the room. Then I'd say some complete gibberish followed by me fainting.
(BTW useless info because it depends on the person, But I do have religious view. Which is against homosexuality and incest .Just cause their my kids doesn't mean I can it force it on them.)
I would do what I heard before, Stop them any physical contact(for at least a year), no display of affection around the dinner table, and if yah want to have (safe)sex, in the name of all that is holy wait till your out the house.
For the physical contact, if they aren't sneaking about or trying to play without then they should be able to keep a healthy relation with each other. After a year of no physical interaction they should either have given up on it or know each other well enough to be comfortable with each other. Display of affection, well I know yah two like each other, don't do it front of others because it is frowned upon; but we will come out with this later. Lastly the sex thing, not in my house. Since I'm assuming yah love each other after everything, get a place that you two can do it till the sun goes down. Then I'll call to make it awkward.
I would do what I heard before, Stop them any physical contact(for at least a year), no display of affection around the dinner table, and if yah want to have (safe)sex, in the name of all that is holy wait till your out the house.
For the physical contact, if they aren't sneaking about or trying to play without then they should be able to keep a healthy relation with each other. After a year of no physical interaction they should either have given up on it or know each other well enough to be comfortable with each other. Display of affection, well I know yah two like each other, don't do it front of others because it is frowned upon; but we will come out with this later. Lastly the sex thing, not in my house. Since I'm assuming yah love each other after everything, get a place that you two can do it till the sun goes down. Then I'll call to make it awkward.
I'd make sure they were sexually educated and then try and discourage them from doing anything. Ultimately there's not much I can do to stop them, though.
Also, possibly have a panic attack or two. Even if they were opposite genders, I'd likely react the same way.
And when we throw int the age in question, it's quite possible they're going to experiment, even with each other. So the question of "attraction" may be a loaded one.
Doesn't mean I advocate it, but the double standards are lovely.
For example:
All other factors being equal, a woman in her 40s (or possibly even late thirties) is more likely to breed a child with birth defects than an incestuous couple. If we were honestly concerned about birth defects, wouldn't we be preventing women over a "certain age" from breeding?
Incest only becomes a problem if it's a repeated chain of events. There are also some authority issues that can be bundled in. A parent-child relationship is the most likely to be the source of coercion, but even an older sibling can coerce a younger. I understand concerns, in other words, but biological isn't the most immediate one. At least, not as much as people make it out to be.
I'm probably going to be grossed out by the thought of my children banging anyone.
Also, possibly have a panic attack or two. Even if they were opposite genders, I'd likely react the same way.
Incorrect. It's unlikely, but nowhere near impossible or "pretty much so."Zira said:
And when we throw int the age in question, it's quite possible they're going to experiment, even with each other. So the question of "attraction" may be a loaded one.
That's the wonderful thing about life. It's okay for "normal" people to all sorts of things which we complain about other people doing.lacktheknack said:
Doesn't mean I advocate it, but the double standards are lovely.
For example:
Well...MarsAtlas said:
All other factors being equal, a woman in her 40s (or possibly even late thirties) is more likely to breed a child with birth defects than an incestuous couple. If we were honestly concerned about birth defects, wouldn't we be preventing women over a "certain age" from breeding?
Incest only becomes a problem if it's a repeated chain of events. There are also some authority issues that can be bundled in. A parent-child relationship is the most likely to be the source of coercion, but even an older sibling can coerce a younger. I understand concerns, in other words, but biological isn't the most immediate one. At least, not as much as people make it out to be.
Saying this as the pinnacle of maturity I am....Fappy said:
I'm probably going to be grossed out by the thought of my children banging anyone.
God, it's awkward enough being friends with most of my ex's family.dylanmc12 said:
You have the right to fantasize about anyone or anything you want and if it's consensual sex with all involved agreeing and understanding what they are agreeing to,(along with no inbreeding or spreading of disease) then I see no problem with it.