You import an ME2 save to ME3... where sheppard didn't survive

[Snotnarok]

I just want to let you know that your title makes me want to find you and give you a long lecture about spoiler alerts. Because guess what you just spoiled.

In his defence, the developers went over and over it before the game was released to emphasise that your choices stick. Knowing he can die is at least not the same as knowing how/why, or the only end result. And it is described as a suicide mission throughout the entire game.

So someone who doesn't read up on that should be aware right? It's easy to NOT put this sort of thing in the title, easily put in a spoiler. I'm aware I'm probably the last person to beat the bloody game but you don't for the love of god put the ending in the title in a forum.

 

[Zeraki]

One thing comes to mind when you were perfectly able to import a save from the first to second game, but not from the second to third...

Incredibly. Piss. Poor. Writing.

The first ME was damn good in my view. I watched my brother play most of the second and it wasn't as good as the first was. The same old @#$%@%* formula happens with these game companies when this shit happens.

"Oh, one of our titles was a success!"

"Well, let's make more money by hastily making a sequel so that we can make MOAR MONEYZ!"

"I think this might be something we'd want to handle caref-"

"GET TO MAKING THE DAMNED SEQUEL NOW!!!!!"

"Yes sir..."

*scurries away*

Mass Effect was planned as a trilogy even before the first game was in development. And you can import your save from 2 to 3. You just can't do so if Shepard is dead because he/she is the main character. It's not that big of a deal, you have to intentionally try to kill Shepard off anyway.

And I thought Mass Effect 2 was a worthy sequel. I could have done without the ammo and the Halo health regen(and it could of had a bit more customization), but other than that it's amazing.

 

[Something Amyss]

You can't transfer. Bioware said that you'll just have to make a new file.

That's..... incredibly stupid.

Why? Your protagonist is dead. That's pretty much game over.

 

[elvor0]

Jeez, another game where we play as Shepard...yay?

Plus the line-up of teammates looks pretty crappy in my own opinion. They don't appear to have any new squadmates of yet, and the old ones are all just getting annoying.

I personally wish they'd just let Shepard die or bugger off somewhere else with his crew, and then let us move onto a new character with new allies to team up with. Maybe it'd be more fun playing a Earth soldier who is trying to lead a rebellion of scarce forces against the invaders, or a civilian shot down in the atmosphere while trying to escape and having to take up arms to become a unlikely hero, I DUNNO! just something new would be good.

Well I hate to break it to you, but Mass Effect is a trilogy centering the character of Shepard, because he is the main character. Complaining that he's the main character in the third game is pretty stupid.

After what they did to dead characters in Dragon Age 2 it seems pretty funny that they would treat dead characters in Mass Effect like this.

I know this is really hard for people to understand, but those characters who died are obviously not supposed to die in the official canon, because the hero in DA is a HERO, not an evil bastard who murders his team mates. I'm pretty sure the official canon doesn't include you murdering Alister either, because he's supposed to go on to become king.
Even disregarding that, this is a world where you resurrect people because we have MAGIC, alongside the fact that died in the holiest place in the land defending the sacred ashes where it's entirely possible the almighty GODs brought her back to life.

 

[Woodsey]

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THEY ARE MAKING THEIR OWN CANON. THE CANON IS THAT MASS EFFECT 3 DOES NOT EXIST.

And no, but Wrex not being there certainly blocked off options to me. Go back a fucking hour and load a save, and run through all the stuff you need to do to not get that ending. Problem solved.

Like I said, you have to actively try to get that ending. Stop being so obnoxious and comment on it when you've finished the game. I've yet to actually encounter someone who got it without aiming for it.

I just want to let you know that your title makes me want to find you and give you a long lecture about spoiler alerts. Because guess what you just spoiled.

In his defence, the developers went over and over it before the game was released to emphasise that your choices stick. Knowing he can die is at least not the same as knowing how/why, or the only end result. And it is described as a suicide mission throughout the entire game.

So someone who doesn't read up on that should be aware right? It's easy to NOT put this sort of thing in the title, easily put in a spoiler. I'm aware I'm probably the last person to beat the bloody game but you don't for the love of god put the ending in the title in a forum.

Believe me, you won't get that ending anyway.

 

[mjc0961]

You can't transfer. Bioware said that you'll just have to make a new file.

That's..... incredibly stupid.

No its not. What's the point in choices if nothing sticks? Especially if that choice leads to the death of the main character no less. You have to be the world's laziest player to kill him off anyway.

They said before ME2 was released, so its not like people haven't had enough time to try it with him alive.

That's what I just said. What is the point of having such major choices if they just force you to go with their cannon, especially when you making your own cannon has been a big selling point of Bioware games, or at least the Mass Effect series.

But they aren't forcing you to go along with their canon (note: two n's is for the weapon, one n is for official plot). If your Shepard dies at the end of ME2, then he's dead. He doesn't get to experience the events of Mass Effect 3 because he's DEAD. Your game simply ended at the end of ME2 instead of at the end of ME3. And it's not like ME3 is going to scan your hard drive and ban you from playing it if you have any saves where Shepard dies. You just can't use that one save to play as Shepard in ME3 because your Shepard died and that is the end.

Really, I don't see how you can be saying BioWare is stupid for this one. If the player chooses to kill their Shepard at the end of ME2, that is the end of that Shepard, just like the player wanted. If you want to keep your Shepard for ME3, you have to make sure he lives that long. If you kill him, that was your choice. And since it's actually harder to kill off Shepard than it is to keep him alive, it means you worked at getting that ending knowing it would be the true end.

 

[mechanixis]

You can't transfer. Bioware said that you'll just have to make a new file.

That's..... incredibly stupid. Why advertise making your own cannon, then force a player to go with specific cannon if options they chose weren't the " right " ones. Putting something like that in is silly. It shouldn't have been put in at all.

That's like saying it's stupid that getting killed results in a Game Over. There are limits to how much you can bend the story. One of those limits is "Shepard needs to survive."

 

[Bobbity]

Bioware seems to be forcing a lot of choices upon us these days, despite the fact that I FUCKING CUT LELIANA'S HEAD OFF :S

 

[Tony2077]

Bioware seems to be forcing a lot of choices upon us these days, despite the fact that I FUCKING CUT LELIANA'S HEAD OFF :S

wow did you mean to come off as a jerk or was that a mistake

 

[cookieXkiller]

The series would become what it always should have been: Garrus Effect.

that would be so awesome ...
OT:: im gonna laugh if all it does is unlock a special cinematic or some special mission ... either way im looking forward to ME3
edit; 250 post count ... woo...

 

[Avaloner]

Did not saving those two people have an impact on whether or not you were/are able to have that Shepard play the next installment of the game? No? Didn't think so. Why advertise making your own cannon, then force a player to go with specific cannon if options they chose weren't the " right " ones. All I'm saying is putting something like that in is silly. It shouldn't have been put in at all.

Seriously, first you complain that there is no choice and all is one cannon, than Bioware makes this huge complex system, where certain decisions, quests and romantic affairs are carried over into a new game, which again has a huge world and I can think of some stuff already, probably some of those loyal missions will have an effect on the third game and than you still complain that the game is realistic enough to give you a shitty ending?

What is wrong with you?

Either you go on and make a game linear or you create this ~epic~ with a massive universe, where every little choice can have a huge impact, you can't have both and later complain that you suck at the game and you lost the mission, just deal with it, its hinted in the game, there are freaking 3 achievements for the suicide mission alone and the game constantly reminds you to talk to your crew members, because they tell you that their upgrades are needed to live trough the collectors attack, if you ignore all this and loose, than you very well deserve to be death.

If you play super mario and never jump on enemys or never collect any upgrade and Bowser stomps you into a little italian pulp, than you don't get to complain that the game is over.

Lets not forget that there is basically no one who could replace Shepard, he stopped the reapers twice now, has all the knowledge of the protheans, even if they turned now and knows as much about the reapers as no one else, you can't just replace that guy with random spacesoldier #18835

 

[Zeraki]

One thing comes to mind when you were perfectly able to import a save from the first to second game, but not from the second to third...

Incredibly. Piss. Poor. Writing.

The first ME was damn good in my view. I watched my brother play most of the second and it wasn't as good as the first was. The same old @#$%@%* formula happens with these game companies when this shit happens.

"Oh, one of our titles was a success!"

"Well, let's make more money by hastily making a sequel so that we can make MOAR MONEYZ!"

"I think this might be something we'd want to handle caref-"

"GET TO MAKING THE DAMNED SEQUEL NOW!!!!!"

"Yes sir..."

*scurries away*

i heard it REALLY hard to do without tring but what do you have to do to kill of Shepard

Don't upgrade the ship's systems at all, do none of the loyalty quests, make all the wrong decisions when selecting the specialists and fire team leaders in the Collector base(so all your companions die). So you literally have to aim for that ending and skip the majority of the content to screw up badly enough to kill Shepard.

EDIT

I've never gone for this ending myself, mostly because I don't really see a point in it. It obviously isn't one of the two canonical endings considering that Mass Effect is Shepard's story and if he/she dies it is game over for the galaxy.

 

[AMMO Kid]

Bioware seems to be forcing a lot of choices upon us these days, despite the fact that I FUCKING CUT LELIANA'S HEAD OFF :S

I never knew you could do that till recently. How do you kill her?

 

[mechanixis]

I kinda wanna see the special cutscene where the Reapers just shit all over everything if you import a dead Shepard. I guess we'll see later this year though.

And it just goes on and on, for thirty minutes. Every single character you've ever met getting vaporized by thousands of Reapers. "This is all Shepard's fault, what a tool he was! I have to spend all day getting devoured by god-machines because he didn't upgrade his hull plating."

 

[Rand-m]

If they were to allow that, they'd probably allow you to make another character, but you still hear about everyone saying how awesome Shepard was.

Or a cutscene with everybody failing miserably.

OR OR OR! They adopt the Dragon Age way of going about things (in that you can control whomever you want) and you just choose who gets to be captain.

Garrus running show? I think so.

 

[Shannon Matchett]

One thing comes to mind when you were perfectly able to import a save from the first to second game, but not from the second to third...

Incredibly. Piss. Poor. Writing.

The first ME was damn good in my view. I watched my brother play most of the second and it wasn't as good as the first was. The same old @#$%@%* formula happens with these game companies when this shit happens.

"Oh, one of our titles was a success!"

"Well, let's make more money by hastily making a sequel so that we can make MOAR MONEYZ!"

"I think this might be something we'd want to handle caref-"

"GET TO MAKING THE DAMNED SEQUEL NOW!!!!!"

"Yes sir..."

*scurries away*

This game has always been a planned trilogy, and an opinion formed on "watching your brother play" is hardly a basis for a grounded opinion, more so when you pollute your argument with statements which are entirely false. If you're going to try and be witty/insightful, at the very least, know the game you're trying to criticise.