Trilligan said:Methinks this is the type of quote he had in mindshrekfan246 said:![]()
I would like to see a specific post on this website where somebody typed out the words "Well, she was asking for it! She shouldn't have been dressed like that!"
If you can't provide that simple request for me, then my only response is that gif.
Granted, not verbatim what you asked for, but the sentiment is the same. Victim is obviously at fault in this poster's mind.viranimus said:No, your not. Because your inferring your own meaning from my words. Yes she has a hand of responsibility in this. But the reason the sentence is lighter is because they are still minors.Hirumakage said:Ok, let me see if I'm understanding you. She had it coming? She went to a party to have fun and over did it. And because she passed out she should have expected to be raped or molested because that's what guys at parties do. Wow. And the sentence was light because of that? Are you serious? That's ridiculous! And then you say she's whining becasue she didnt get what she wanted? Yeah I think it's a little more than that.
But yes she absolutely IS whining about not getting her way. She even said so.
There it is. She is clearly saying "I dont care what the courts, attys or even my parents agreed to. I dont like it, and I am going to do whatever I want about it.""I'm at the point, that if I have to go to jail for my rights, I will do it. If they really feel it's necessary to throw me in jail for talking about what happened to me as opposed to throwing these boys in jail for what they did to me, then I don't understand justice"
Your trying to portray this girl as being devoid of responsibility for her actions. Why? Because shes a girl? That would be sexist as hell.
Because she is too young to know better? Considering that this girl was invariably exposed to drinking and partying likely starting around age 12 even if it wasnt herself, it was her friends telling her all about it . She had easily been exposed to what goes on at parties with alcohol for right about 5 years. She knew what risk she was running.
She knew the risks and possibilities of what might occur.
Given she was 17, had she gotten behind the wheel of a car and drove home in that condition? What if she someone had slammed into her killing them instantly. Even if it was clearly the other drivers fault. Even if she drove flawlessly. Would driving under the influence just be excused? Thats the problem of why she or MEs in general dont understand justice and why this is even a conversation at all. She took an action that put herself and potentially others at risk.
So are we really painting the image that this was a good ole country girl who had never been to a party with booze and teens screwing each other senseless, who goes to this party alone, gets quickly overwhelmed by her lack of tolerance and passes out and two horny guys just happen to find her passed out and start bending her around like a ragdoll? The likelihood of that is practically nonexistent. Yet we can never truly know what actually lead up to those events because any accounts from this event would be drenched in alcohol and likely other drugs.
So yes, she bears a bulk of the burden of responsibility because she put herself in that environment "to have fun"
You dont sit in the front row of a Gallagher show and expect to not come home covered in crushed fruit and other misc. crushable items. So too should you not go to a teenage highschool party and not be exposed to alcohol, drugs and kids fornicating.
No the sentiment most certainly is not there. You are incorrect and it is a failure of your comprehension. I was not involved in this thread nor is my views on the other thread relevant in this thread because its not even talking about the same thing.
If you dont understand what I said, how about not quoting me and taking me out of context as it relates to a completely different thread I was never involved in.
I never said she was asking for it. I said she bears part of the responsibility for her actions because she willingly went to a party where drugs/alcohol/sex were to be at. She got no "support" from her friends as she was drinking. she got herself drunk to the point of passing out. She made concsicous decisions that she bears responsibility for because this could have been avoided with actions on her part just as much as actions on the boys part.
Dont put words in my mouth. I have more than enough of my own.