You people are insane....(Yet another rape thread)

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LetalisK

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viranimus said:
Really? cause last I checked she was sexually assaulted, not raped. You do fully realize those are not the same things, right?
I'd point you back to the other thread. Kentucky has no such thing as sexual assault.
 

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Rawne1980 said:


It's only a matter of time until the RSPCA jumps all over the escapist for all this horse beating.
Nobody cares.

OT: I'm sick and tired of the victim getting blamed for ANYTHING unless it's a real blatent stupidity. Not 'We used a high-priced lawyer to smear shit around', but actual proper dumb shit. Punish dumb people, but allow proper victims their due to kick some ass.
 

TallanKhan

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While i agree with the broad point your making i wholeheartedly disagree that you should treat rapists differently from any other kind of criminal. The vast majority of crime is not accidental or excusable, the vast majority can be put down to nature or negative influence, as with rapists. Yes rape is a terrible thing, and the punishment should be proportionate, as with any crime.
Once you go down the route of saying your going to treat certain crimes differently from others, not only do you undermine the justice system as a whole but you also risk creating a two teir justice system.
 

Keoul

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Phasmal said:
How about to make yourself feel good?
Does not work unless someone cares ergo attention (attention isn't necessarily a bad thing)

Because you think it looks nice?
Again it looks nice so people will look at you ergo attention

Because it follows curret fashion?
This one could be plausible without it all being about attention

Because you might want to look special that night?
again, just for attention :L

Everything you've said could apply to less revealing clothes as well, formal dresses for example, they look amazing and aren't as revealing as a tank top and mini-skirt, but I guess that's just opinion...
 

Keoul

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Trilligan said:
I think the nuance you might be missing is that sunburn is a reasonable expectation. You go out in the sun, and it's reasonable that you might be sunburnt, so taking precautions is a reasonable course of action.
There is never a case, ever, wherein there is a reasonable expectation of rape. If that is the society in which we live, then we need to fix our society, cause that is a fucked up state of affairs.
Isn't the fact that not only did it happen, but it happens quite often enough reason to take precautions?

TheBobmus said:
I google imaged 'motivational'.

I feel demotivated and also a little bit sick.

OP, do not follow this advice.
I just did too... Do not use google, just... watch happy videos on youtube maybe?
 

Phasmal

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Keoul said:
I disagree.
Sorry, but not everything is about other people or attention.
For example, if I wanna dress up nice, I'm doing it for me. So I can say `yes, I think I look good/acceptable` while looking in the mirror. I don't care what anyone else thinks, the someone who cares is me. I actually hate attention, I'm totally socially awkward.
It's perfectly possible to dress a certain way because you want to, not because you want attention.

It's also perfectly possible to not even think about it, if you asked most people (male and female) why they dress how they do, they would probably just say `I just do/I like it`.
 

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Phasmal said:
If that was true why don't they just dress like that and stay home :L

It is true what is acceptable to a person is determined by the individual but we all know the effects of what you wear, and wearing revealing clothes would obviously get you a lot of attention.

Phasmal said:
I actually hate attention, I'm totally socially awkward.
And do you wear revealing attire? , does your casual clothes still get you a tonne of attention from the people around you?
If you answered no to either of those questions it just proves my point that they dress like that to get attention. After all, if it wasn't for attention they'd just wear it at home.
 

Phasmal

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Keoul said:
Phasmal said:
If that was true why don't they just dress like that and stay home :L

It is true what is acceptable to a person is determined by the individual but we all know the effects of what you wear, and wearing revealing clothes would obviously get you a lot of attention.

Phasmal said:
I actually hate attention, I'm totally socially awkward.
And do you wear revealing attire? , does your casual clothes still get you a tonne of attention from the people around you?
If you answered no to either of those questions it just proves my point that they dress like that to get attention. After all, if it wasn't for attention they'd just wear it at home.
What the fuck?
Dress nice but stay at home?
Seriously?

Also, depends on what you mean by revealing.
I was wearing a tank top today, seeing as it was boiling, am I asking for attention?
Jeez, man, people will wear what they freaking want. I advise you to deal.
 

Keoul

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Phasmal said:
What the fuck?
Dress nice but stay at home?
Seriously?

Also, depends on what you mean by revealing.
I was wearing a tank top today, seeing as it was boiling, am I asking for attention?
Jeez, man, people will wear what they freaking want. I advise you to deal.
If it's NOT for attention then how does wearing it at home make you feel any less special -.-

By revealing I refer to anything where you can see the skin usually only seen when someone is wearing a bikini or less.
I have no problem with them wearing what they want, just letting em know there are prowlers out there and your fancy clothes just might make you a victim >>
 

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Hoplon said:
Jedoro said:
Society didn't force you to make anything, you decided to because of those "stupid opinions and idiotic conclusions."

Also, if one's goal of provocative dress is to get raped, is it really rape?
I don't even...

HELP ME SPIDERMAN!

Spiderman wanted to help you but he's having his own problems with this issue, although he's wearing provocative spandex so it's his own fault.
 

Arsen

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Punishment for sexual assault is too lenient.

They scar someone else, they themselves should be scarred in a fitting punishment. If we did this more in society things would decrease.
 

Phasmal

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Keoul said:
If it's NOT for attention then how does wearing it at home make you feel any less special -.-

By revealing I refer to anything where you can see the skin usually only seen when someone is wearing a bikini or less.
I have no problem with them wearing what they want, just letting em know there are prowlers out there and your fancy clothes just might make you a victim >>

Plenty of people are assaulted wearing normal clothes, shitty looking clothes, all sorts of clothes.

Also, it doesn't make you feel less special. But what is the sense in dressing up to sit at home then not dressing up to go out?

You seem pretty stuck to this idea that it's for attention. I can only disagree.
 

Keoul

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Phasmal said:
You seem pretty stuck to this idea that it's for attention. I can only disagree
Yeah pretty much :L
I just can't fathom a situation where revealing clothes is purely for yourself and not for the opinion and approval of others.
That compliment from someone you like
The heads that turn when you walk past
You get the idea.
 

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Father Time said:
You can, some man raped someone while sleepwalking (essentially). He had some rare condition, and if you're wondering yes he was able to prove this in court, and yes he got off.
Why should I care if he cum? *rimshot*
 

chadachada123

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The primary issue is that if two drunk people have sex, if the girl wakes up feeling regretful, she can convince herself that she was raped. Were the guy to do so, he'd be laughed at and would certainly not be convinced that he was raped just because he was drunk.

The point is: make sure you're actually a victim before you say you are.