Since eSports are presumably watched by people of all ages and not just adults, like most other sports, I'm not particularly fond of this idea.
YouPorn wants to sponsor eSports teams.
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Dangerous? In what way is advertising porn dangerous? You think it's going to give some poor grandmother in the audience a heart attack? As for immorality, plenty of people think that homosexual relations or converting from [insert religion here] is immoral, however that doesn't mean the act should be banned unless they can be proven to cause harm.KingsGambit said:
On-topic, I don't really see the problem as long as it's tasteful and unintrusive, society really needs to get over sex. If you don't want to watch porn, just ignore the adverts like I do for perfume advert #64932.
Yes there is such a thing as a minor. Anyone under 18. That's the law and the socially accepted norm to boot. Just because your middle school had debauched hallways doesn't make it right or acceptable. It doesn't matter if people know about it or not, it is about keeping it out of the mainstream and out of the reach of minors.Artaneius said:
It is dangerous for the following reasons: it sets a bad precedent and it popularises and endorses the site and by extension, porn in general.JoJo said:
What "plenty of people" think or don't think about homosexuality is irrelevant. Porn has been proven to cause harm [https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?#q=effects+of+porn], long lasting and short term, physiological and psychological, particularly for those addicted to it and to both individuals and larger society. There is no such thing as "tasteful" porn or advertising of it. The second word is "unobtrusive". Society has no issue with sex. Porn != sex and that's not the reason why porn is taboo and sleazy.
It's likely a moot point anyway, there's no chance in hell Blizzard will allow any association with porn sites with any of its products and I don't imagine LoL or DotA2 will be any different.
Your evidence is simply a link to a google search? Wow you're clearly very informed on issue and have clearly taken an objective and purely scientific look at all the evidence and you are definitely not spouting complete unsubstantiated bullshit.KingsGambit said:
/sarcasm off
No, it's not evidence. It's a page of results you can read through to find it for yourself. I don't recall being given the job of teaching you. You have the opportunity to see for yourself; I gave you a helping hand to a list of links you can start with. A further tip as a courtesy, learn how dopamine works and what it does. It plays a large role in why porn is unhealthy. That's not the topic at hand tho, which is that of advertising it in a space in which minors are likely to see it.JazzJack2 said:
I am very informed because I have already read the results of studies and essays. My view is objective and subjective both, it doesn't need to be purely scientific. I have an opinion backed up by evidence. Everything I said is substantiated by doctors, psychologists and health professionals as well as government and society at large.
On the condition that they have no power over,
a) the name of my team and
b) the name of myself
Then I am more than happy to be sponsored by pornography.
"Oh Mum, you know when you jokingly said I should 'go for it!' and try for this eSports thing? Yeah, well we got a sponsor..."
a) the name of my team and
b) the name of myself
Then I am more than happy to be sponsored by pornography.
"Oh Mum, you know when you jokingly said I should 'go for it!' and try for this eSports thing? Yeah, well we got a sponsor..."
It's incredibly presumptuous, if you'll pardon my saying, to say you're backed by 'society at large'. I don't think any of us is qualified to speak for society, and you should leave any assumptions like that out of a rational debate. Pet peeve of mine.KingsGambit said:
That said, I don't know if youporn is a good fit for video games, since anyone watching will either:
A) Be a minor, or
B) Already know about youporn
It feels like they'd be better off sponsoring a racecar or something that isn't already in the internet circles.
To be fair, I saw ads for playboy and hustler when I was 10,12,13. They weren't on TV, but I did see them. And if you have access to Esports you also have access to the internet, and if you have access to the internet, you really only need to know how to use google and that "porn" is a word and you have an endless cache of explicit material at your fingertips anyway.Pink Gregory said:
Ah I was wondering when that card would be played, yeah if you're going to make very big claims about something you should always give good evidence to base your claims off otherwise your opinion is nothing short of worthless to anybody else.KingsGambit said:
No you didn't you gave a link to a google search which will
A)Have the different results for different people
B)Have no quality control meaning the vast majority of the results will not be scientific and will be completely worthless
Give me conclusive scientific evidence for your claims please because giving someone a link and telling them to 'find it out for themselves' is utterly moronic. I mean if I told you that UFOs exist and then when you asked for evidence I just gave you a link to a google search and told to find out yourself you would call me a moron, no?
And yet not only do you seem incapable of repeating any of the content and evidence you've read from these studies, you are even incapable of linking said studies.
I don't give a shit what the government or society thinks and if you actually knew anything about the matter you'd know the effects of porn (or media in general) is very unsure and hotly debated territory in psychology.
I'm not interested in changing your mind, nor am I obligated to. Firstly, the topic is about advertising, not porn itself. Second, nothing I linked to would satisfy you or change your mind. I believe you'd refuse to believe any of it because your mind is made up and thus choose to save my time. Thirdly, remember Morpheus's line, "No one can tell you what the Matrix is; you have to see it for yourself." Pretty much the same thing here.JazzJack2 said:
I believe you are unlikely to believe, or even read, anything I post. If you wanted to know, were genuinely curious and interested to learn more the information is as easy as searching on Google. There are studies, documentaries, journals and periodicals, talk shows, essays, blogs and news reports aplenty. In the time it took you to reply to me, you could've read two articles. You are much more likely to read and believe evidence you find for yourself. I linked suggested keywords but you could also try "porn dopamine", "effects of porn", "porn addiction", "porn effects on teens". If you're using Chrome or FireFox, you can highlight those phrases, right click on them and select "search for xyz on Google".
I have my opinion, shared by the majority (I say with confidence, excepting this site evidently) and your opinion is your own, to which you are fully entitled and welcome. I'm not trying to change your mind, I was voicing what I thought about advertising such a site in a public space.
Hey, to me it's just them expanding on their original core values as it is.
After all, They've always been about helping people reach the finish line.
THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT!!! BOOM, BITCHES!
Oh, and whatever to the actual topic. They'll have to clean up the site I guess as every porn site is probably full of malware and so forth.
I honestly don't feel any way about it. Honestly, I'm certain that if there's a child on the internet, he or she has viewed porn for curiosity or for the same reasons adults do. We want to see them as these perfect little creatures, but we all felt the pull of hormones and the need to do anything to quiet it down. Hell, as a kid, I did everything in my power to see naked women. But I was born in 1980. I doubt with three decades on them, I have seen as many naked women as kids in this generation have already. What I would have done for the internet when I was 12...
After all, They've always been about helping people reach the finish line.
THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT!!! BOOM, BITCHES!
Oh, and whatever to the actual topic. They'll have to clean up the site I guess as every porn site is probably full of malware and so forth.
I honestly don't feel any way about it. Honestly, I'm certain that if there's a child on the internet, he or she has viewed porn for curiosity or for the same reasons adults do. We want to see them as these perfect little creatures, but we all felt the pull of hormones and the need to do anything to quiet it down. Hell, as a kid, I did everything in my power to see naked women. But I was born in 1980. I doubt with three decades on them, I have seen as many naked women as kids in this generation have already. What I would have done for the internet when I was 12...
Youporn is legit. 'All porn is malware' hasn't been the case for about a decade.ObsidianJones said:
You and everyone who saw that CSI:Miami episode and thought it was real are certainly not any kind of majority.KingsGambit said:
Not saying majority opinion makes things right, but don't be fooled into thinking you have that many allies. People who use the word "debauched" to describe school hallways are not common.
I don't know what csi Miami is. Regarding my quote, read the post I was quoting before jumping to conclusions.Easton Dark said:
Just a joke about CSI:Miami.KingsGambit said:
I read the post. I read threads before posting. You insult me by saying I don't. "Debauched" "pure" "innocence" "heretical", all words that not many people would be heard using seriously. Debauched, really? Morally harmful?
Sexual, yes, but calling it morally harmful really changes what you appear to think like, and not many people would be comfortable to be exposed as such. "Society has no issue with sex" indeed. It's like saying sex can happen, but no one can see it.