Ridiculous it may look but dressage is hard as shit, the level of control you need is ridiculous.General Twinkletoes said:snip
Training horses is very hard and making them do what you want is part of the sport's challenge
Ridiculous it may look but dressage is hard as shit, the level of control you need is ridiculous.General Twinkletoes said:snip
Bomberman4000 said:it's scored on a completely objective basis, what you do has NO impact on what someone else does
That's actually a pretty good way of looking at it. Throw in the "must be a physical activity" and you've got a winner!Bomberman4000 said:To me sports are more about the direct competition. What I do changes how you play the game, and what you do changes how I play. You can keep me from winning, and I can make you lose.
I was talking to one of my American friends when he came to visit once (I'm Canadian) and I decided to watch a hockey game. He said it was incredibly stupid because he couldn't see the puck. This is a guy that loves baseball. He can't see a black puck on white ice but he can follow a white ball in a blue and white sky.Johnny Novgorod said:Uh, baseball always seemed a bit ridiculous to me. You hit a ball from a spot and if it connect you run around in circles before the other team catches it... I dunno, it never clicked with me. It's really boring.
I still can't understand dressage being defined as a sport, either. I mean, who is the athlete, the horse? But it's not even like the horse is doing anything that physical, just a bit of prancing. The rider is skilled at making the horse do stuff, but that doesn't mean he/she is an athlete, again just a player of a game. A silly horse-prancing game.Wolf In A Bear Suit said:Dressage is a ridiculous looking 'sport', it's basically a horse dance off, the horse with the most crazy horse moves wins. I remember turning it on during the olympics and was gobsmacked.
baseball is one of those sports that you really have to play to appreciate. I love it, and i played up until my second year in college.Johnny Novgorod said:Uh, baseball always seemed a bit ridiculous to me. You hit a ball from a spot and if it connect you run around in circles before the other team catches it... I dunno, it never clicked with me. It's really boring.
Yeah, sorry, no epiphany, I still disagree. Even after watching slow-motion (and I do a lot of that, because my job involves a lot of various sports and so-called-sports stuff), I still see nothing more than two people hitting each other until one is knocked out cold, and a crowd all but calling "FINISH HIM!". It's a display of violence in my eyes. (those things have their own painter tho)Treeinthewoods said:Boxing is not a sport? How the hell do you make the ridiculous logical leaps to arrive at a conclusion that silly? It's physically exhausting, competitive and requires a ridiculous amount of skill and smarts at the highest levels. My wife used to think it was just two people wailng away at each other until she started paying attention to slow motion replays and started to grasp the ridiculous precision and timing of top level boxers. It's one of the purest forms of sport in existence and is also a highly effective martial art to boot.
I totally agree that dressage looks silly, but all the equestrian sports actually do take a lot of physical work in the part of the humans - part of them doing a good job of it is that it looks like they're just sitting there. You just have to watch a non-rider try to sit on anything other than a placid trail pony to know that there's more to it then sitting there and giving the horse directions.robot slipper said:I still can't understand dressage being defined as a sport, either. I mean, who is the athlete, the horse? But it's not even like the horse is doing anything that physical, just a bit of prancing. The rider is skilled at making the horse do stuff, but that doesn't mean he/she is an athlete, again just a player of a game. A silly horse-prancing game.Wolf In A Bear Suit said:Dressage is a ridiculous looking 'sport', it's basically a horse dance off, the horse with the most crazy horse moves wins. I remember turning it on during the olympics and was gobsmacked.
I was waiting for someone to bring up pro wrestling so I could say pretty much that, I follow it but I still wouldn't strictly speaking call it a sport as I always took the word "Sport" to mean "physical competition" and technically speaking pro wrestling is not competition as the athletes are performing rather than competing, but I still have a huge amount of respect for anyone in that line of workNameIsRobertPaulson said:Careful there. Most of the WWE personnel are in much better shape than many pro athletes in other sports. Just because the match is scripted does not make the physicality of the match any less real. Getting dropped on your head from 12 feet up onto a mostly unyielding surface is not fakeable. Honestly, WWE performers have a more physically grueling schedule than any athlete alive (Doing a match 300 days out of the year, what other sport does that)?Heronblade said:Curling (especially this one, and it somehow squirmed into the Olympics to boot)
staged wrestling
dressage
Ah yes, I should've mentioned I don't consider Chess a sport too.NameIsRobertPaulson said:Don't compare sitting on your ass moving little pieces to actual sports.
See how that works?
They kind of do. It's in the definition of sports, which a couple of people have posted in this thread.Not every sport has to be physical.
No, I am not really bothered. I guess as long as you also believe that any other combat sport is not a sport you aren't being hypocritical either. IMHO any one on one combative sport is as pure as sport can be, fighting defines people and exposes their true natures. I also enjoy team sports but anything where a person can lose because of another person's mistake is always going to be lesser. If a boxer or MMA fighter loses the only place to lay the blame is with themselves, each fight is a culmination of their individual preparation and nothing else.Vegosiux said:Yeah, sorry, no epiphany, I still disagree. Even after watching slow-motion (and I do a lot of that, because my job involves a lot of various sports and so-called-sports stuff), I still see nothing more than two people hitting each other until one is knocked out cold, and a crowd all but calling "FINISH HIM!". It's a display of violence in my eyes. (those things have their own painter tho)Treeinthewoods said:Boxing is not a sport? How the hell do you make the ridiculous logical leaps to arrive at a conclusion that silly? It's physically exhausting, competitive and requires a ridiculous amount of skill and smarts at the highest levels. My wife used to think it was just two people wailng away at each other until she started paying attention to slow motion replays and started to grasp the ridiculous precision and timing of top level boxers. It's one of the purest forms of sport in existence and is also a highly effective martial art to boot.
I don't have a problem if you see it as "one of the purest forms of sport in existence". I don't. Hope you have no problem with that.
Dealing with the G-forces, mastering the use of your vehicle, being able to make split-second decisions at deadly speeds. Really, Formula-1 racers for instance have a better physical condition than most football players.Aris Khandr said:Racing. Not like track and field, I get that. I mean auto racing. I just don't get how that is actually a sport. A competition, sure. But a sport?
the thing has its roots in military exercise for snowy weather. it combines different skills, which is always nice because it shakes up people skiing around a track for 30min. it's also something Germany is really good at(this is a trend, take a random sports we are ok at, let's say skiing, and add a military element and BAM we own that shit).jdogtwodolla said:That one shooting sport where first you have to run a track on skis. Um, the shooting is the important part right? How is shooting a sport and how does adding skis justify the shooting part?
Very impressive video- i'd say it's about as much as a sport as much as dancing is. Take that as you will.Longstreet said:No wonder you don't consider THAT a sport.Nickolai77 said:Snip
Never seen a pattern done so bad, except by new beginner.
Now this however, is done properly. and trust me, you are completely exhausted after half a minute.
Takes precision, concentration, definite skill and a whole lot more
Please do watch the whole video.
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