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Eldarion

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TeeBs said:
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t. All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.
Al Gore won a Nobel prize for telling America shit about the climate that most people already knew. Collage graduation as a requirement for voting is absurd, Bill Gates is a computer wiz and he dropped out of school. A high IQ doesn't stop a person from thinking stupid things.
Al Gore took action and although people already knew this, there was inadequate action being made from our government.Bill Gates actively supports education and understands its importance, and looking at where Bill Gates is now quitting school wasn't a bad thing for him , and although having a high IQ doesn't bar you from doing stupid things, its hard to say a panel of over 3 million people *Considering 120 is about the top 10% of america* wouldn't be a safety net.
"Took action"

Against what? There is no evidence that human activity adds to global warming to the degree he wants us to think it does. I have seen "An inconvenient truth", anyone can fix statistics and thats all his "data" was.

Bill Gates actively supports education and understands its importance, and looking at where Bill Gates is now quitting school wasn't a bad thing for him
So you agree with me?

and although having a high IQ doesn't bar you from doing stupid things, its hard to say a panel of over 3 million people *Considering 120 is about the top 10% of america* wouldn't be a safety net.
I get what your driving at, but I don't believe that something as arbitrary as an IQ score is something you can decidedly judge a persons worth on. Have you seen an IQ test?
 

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Psycho Cat Industries said:
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Today's Germany.
I would swipe the game rating system though.
Yea, there are a few things I'd change too, but largely I like Germany's system.

Granted, I don't play video games much anymore, but I think it's a fair point.
 
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TeeBs said:
Psycho Cat Industries said:
TeeBs said:
Eldarion said:
TeeBs said:
t. All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.
Al Gore won a Nobel prize for telling America shit about the climate that most people already knew. Collage graduation as a requirement for voting is absurd, Bill Gates is a computer wiz and he dropped out of school. A high IQ doesn't stop a person from thinking stupid things.
Al Gore took action and although people already knew this, there was inadequate action being made from our government. Bill Gates actively supports education and understands its importance, and looking at where Bill Gates is now quitting school wasn't a bad thing for him, and although having a high IQ doesn't bar you from doing stupid things, its hard to say a panel of over 3 million people *Considering 120 is about the top 10% of america* wouldn't be a safety net.
Eh,the people be manipulatable and so long as the fear of "global warming" exists in 32 degree weather,people can be manipulated
What?
Sorry,I just like joking about how extreme some people took the global warming thing.It is funny because they change it to "climate change" when it got really cold.That and people can be manipulated really easily.
 

zehydra

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The Tea Party does have leaders, even if they aren't official. We don't know how the fuck Anonymous runs.

With out a central government the Corporations will take over. The entire west coast will become Disneyland and thats not supposed to make it sound fun and exciting. Anarchy can't work and if tried will result in Chaos, who will pay cops? Who will build streets? I don't think you thought this out very well.

You know what I think, the government should be chosen by those who have proven they are smart. All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.
Anonymous doesn't "run" per se. Anonymous is really something more like a political ideology or a religion than an actual group.

If the corporations took over, wouldn't that just establish another government? Corporations need governments to protect them, just as much as we need the government to protect us from them. Without government, profit-seeking becomes a worthless endeavor.
 
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Blank Verse said:
Psycho Cat Industries said:
Blank Verse said:
Today's Germany.
I would swipe the game rating system though.
Yea, there are a few things I'd change too, but largely I like Germany's system.

Granted, I don't play video games much anymore, but I think it's a fair point.
I don't really delve into world politics so I gotta wonder though,what is Germany's system now a days?For America,it is basically blame it on the Republican for screwing up if we were the ones to do it.
 

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Sounds like a communistic Government. And those dont work out just by simple principle of human nature.

A direct democracy is nice in small scale, but over a huge population, that falls apart.

What the united states does now is prettey effective, even if it doesnt seem like it.

I guess I'd just have what the US has right now. its not perfect, but for what you're discussing, its the best.
 

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The best I've yet come up with is this:

I'll take a conglomerate of self-aware, oddly compassionate, detail-oriented AIs for my ruling body, thanks.
 

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Psycho Cat Industries said:
Blank Verse said:
Psycho Cat Industries said:
Blank Verse said:
Today's Germany.
I would swipe the game rating system though.
Yea, there are a few things I'd change too, but largely I like Germany's system.

Granted, I don't play video games much anymore, but I think it's a fair point.
I don't really delve into world politics so I gotta wonder though,what is Germany's system now a days?For America,it is basically blame it on the Republican for screwing up if we were the ones to do it.
A parliamentary republic. To use a similar method of generalization, something like, "Okay, we hate the hell out of inflation from the results of WW1, and quickly formed nationalism which arose through that period via Hitler, so we're going to see everyone has a job, can afford living decently, while taking a deep breath and calming the fuck down when it comes to choice, and preventing methods in which one person can elevate himself quickly in the political spectrum. We, like the sane world, demand educated politicians."

Juxtaposed with America's, "YEE-HAW, LET'S FUNNEL A STUPIDLY DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO OUR MILITARY-- BECAUSE THE PROBLEM'S OF TODAY'S WORLD REQUIRE KICK-ASS ARMIES-- AND NOTHING ELSE... while making cuts to programs that largely help people which has hardly measurable dent on our deficit."

I spend approximately 6 hours a day in despairing rage over the politics in America. I may not be the best person to ask, or perhaps the amongst the best.
 

TeeBs

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Eldarion said:
TeeBs said:
Eldarion said:
TeeBs said:
t. All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.
Al Gore won a Nobel prize for telling America shit about the climate that most people already knew. Collage graduation as a requirement for voting is absurd, Bill Gates is a computer wiz and he dropped out of school. A high IQ doesn't stop a person from thinking stupid things.
Al Gore took action and although people already knew this, there was inadequate action being made from our government.Bill Gates actively supports education and understands its importance, and looking at where Bill Gates is now quitting school wasn't a bad thing for him , and although having a high IQ doesn't bar you from doing stupid things, its hard to say a panel of over 3 million people *Considering 120 is about the top 10% of america* wouldn't be a safety net.
"Took action"

Against what? There is no evidence that human activity adds to global warming to the degree he wants us to think it does. I have seen "An inconvenient truth", anyone can fix statistics and thats all his "data" was.

Bill Gates actively supports education and understands its importance, and looking at where Bill Gates is now quitting school wasn't a bad thing for him
So you agree with me?

and although having a high IQ doesn't bar you from doing stupid things, its hard to say a panel of over 3 million people *Considering 120 is about the top 10% of america* wouldn't be a safety net.
I get what your driving at, but I don't believe that something as arbitrary as an IQ score is something you can decidedly judge a persons worth on. Have you seen an IQ test?
. I knew he lied about his statistics. I guess I would like to retract what I said about him.

I'm sure if Bill Gates were too take a IQ test he would have scored way above 120, and this leads me to your next argument the whole worth of what a high IQ means. I've just recently taken a IQ test and it seems to me that they quiz your ability to decipher patterns, understand concepts and how fast your able to think and access information. Though it doesn't make you an expert on anything, it would lower the amount of people who make judgements without thinking.

Also my three examples are more just examples. There isn't a right way to single out all the intelligent people in this nation.
 
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Blank Verse said:
Psycho Cat Industries said:
Blank Verse said:
Psycho Cat Industries said:
Blank Verse said:
Today's Germany.
I would swipe the game rating system though.
Yea, there are a few things I'd change too, but largely I like Germany's system.

Granted, I don't play video games much anymore, but I think it's a fair point.
I don't really delve into world politics so I gotta wonder though,what is Germany's system now a days?For America,it is basically blame it on the Republican for screwing up if we were the ones to do it.
A parliamentary republic. To use a similar method of generalization, something like, "Okay, we hate the hell out of inflation from the results of WW1, and quickly formed nationalism which arose through that period via Hitler, so we're going to see everyone has a job, can afford living decently, while taking a deep breath and calming the fuck down when it comes to choice, and preventing methods in which one person can elevate himself quickly in the political spectrum. We, like the sane world, demand educated politicians."

Juxtaposed with America's, "YEE-HAW, LET'S FUNNEL A STUPIDLY DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO OUR MILITARY-- BECAUSE THE PROBLEM'S OF TODAY'S WORLD REQUIRE KICK-ASS ARMIES-- AND NOTHING ELSE... while making cuts to programs that largely help people which has hardly measurable dent on our deficit."

I spend approximately 6 hours a day in despairing rage over the politics in America. I may not be the best person to ask, or perhaps the amongst the best.
Ah,so modern Germany reflects the ideals of National Socialists then?For the U.S.,it is really more of a lets not offend anyone b.s. that some people have been pushing on people.I get the idea but you can't be perfect with it.No,the best way to put is that there are a few greedy people in charge at the moment and all it takes to screw up the U.S. is control over the stupid through the media and buying them out.The reps tried it for a bit but that led to no competent leaders in majority.Being a conservative in general is better really.We really can't do shit (pardon my language) at the moment though because of Obama.How can we do anything when the only thing that isn't static is the world around us and an economy that continues to fall?
 

TeeBs

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zehydra said:
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The Tea Party does have leaders, even if they aren't official. We don't know how the fuck Anonymous runs.

With out a central government the Corporations will take over. The entire west coast will become Disneyland and thats not supposed to make it sound fun and exciting. Anarchy can't work and if tried will result in Chaos, who will pay cops? Who will build streets? I don't think you thought this out very well.

You know what I think, the government should be chosen by those who have proven they are smart. All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.
Anonymous doesn't "run" per se. Anonymous is really something more like a political ideology or a religion than an actual group.

If the corporations took over, wouldn't that just establish another government? Corporations need governments to protect them, just as much as we need the government to protect us from them. Without government, profit-seeking becomes a worthless endeavor.
Which was kind of my point, the corporations would become the government. We need a leader its in our psychology.

I think governments a good thing, in my opinion a corporation is just a corrupt government. Both run, exist and lead to benefit themselves.

*the majority of corporations that is.
 

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Anyone who has read Starship Troopers knows what mine is for humans.
Gonna have to agree with that.

The movie just didn't do the book justice, that Heinlein had some ideas goin' on there.

Don't get me wrong though, I do love the movie just for very different reasons.
 

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I'm sure if Bill Gates were too take a IQ test he would have scored way above 120, and this leads me to your next argument the whole worth of what a high IQ means. I've just recently taken a IQ test and it seems to me that they quiz your ability to decipher patterns, understand concepts and how fast your able to think and access information. Though it doesn't make you an expert on anything, it would lower the amount of people who make judgements without thinking.
it would lower the amount of people who make judgments without thinking
TeeBs said:
. I knew he lied about his statistics. I guess I would like to retract what I said about him.
Tee hee. You see? Even you mess up sometimes. :p


Also my three examples are more just examples. There isn't a right way to single out all the intelligent people in this nation.
I agree.
 

zehydra

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TeeBs said:
zehydra said:
TeeBs said:
The Tea Party does have leaders, even if they aren't official. We don't know how the fuck Anonymous runs.

With out a central government the Corporations will take over. The entire west coast will become Disneyland and thats not supposed to make it sound fun and exciting. Anarchy can't work and if tried will result in Chaos, who will pay cops? Who will build streets? I don't think you thought this out very well.

You know what I think, the government should be chosen by those who have proven they are smart. All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.
Anonymous doesn't "run" per se. Anonymous is really something more like a political ideology or a religion than an actual group.

If the corporations took over, wouldn't that just establish another government? Corporations need governments to protect them, just as much as we need the government to protect us from them. Without government, profit-seeking becomes a worthless endeavor.
Which was kind of my point, the corporations would become the government. We need a leader its in our psychology.

I think governments a good thing, in my opinion a corporation is just a corrupt government. Both run, exist and lead to benefit themselves.

*the majority of corporations that is.
Could you say then, that a corrupt government is merely a corporation? If so, then what good is it to have us protected from the corporations, when our government is one?
 

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Psycho Cat Industries said:
Blank Verse said:
Psycho Cat Industries said:
Blank Verse said:
Today's Germany.
I would swipe the game rating system though.
Yea, there are a few things I'd change too, but largely I like Germany's system.

Granted, I don't play video games much anymore, but I think it's a fair point.
I don't really delve into world politics so I gotta wonder though,what is Germany's system now a days?For America,it is basically blame it on the Republican for screwing up if we were the ones to do it.
To be fair, Republicans are doing everything in their power to be dickheads :p
I'll see if I can find one of the better pieces Colbert did on it...
 
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Bobbity said:
Psycho Cat Industries said:
Blank Verse said:
Psycho Cat Industries said:
Blank Verse said:
Today's Germany.
I would swipe the game rating system though.
Yea, there are a few things I'd change too, but largely I like Germany's system.

Granted, I don't play video games much anymore, but I think it's a fair point.
I don't really delve into world politics so I gotta wonder though,what is Germany's system now a days?For America,it is basically blame it on the Republican for screwing up if we were the ones to do it.
To be fair, Republicans are doing everything in their power to be dickheads :p
I'll see if I can find one of the better pieces Colbert did on it...
Yeah,some of them do.Better to look at what they actually affect then what one hopelessly points to bias polls for then just for the fact that all parties seem to do that.P.S. Is it not Colbert's job to make fun of news being that he is on comedy central?It is pretty bias on there too and frankly,it is obvious when he forges things for the sake of jokes.