Umm... didnt YOU read (or understand..?) the post you replied to?Dreiko said:Umm...didn't you read (or understand..?) my above post?
And yes, I do use Dante lol.
I have never replied to or commented on anything you have done... ever.
Umm... didnt YOU read (or understand..?) the post you replied to?Dreiko said:Umm...didn't you read (or understand..?) my above post?
And yes, I do use Dante lol.
What I quoted said that no Dante user wrote in this thread he wasn't broken, this is false, I did post that he wasn't broken and I do use him.Kinguendo said:Umm... didnt YOU read (or understand..?) the post you replied to?Dreiko said:Umm...didn't you read (or understand..?) my above post?
And yes, I do use Dante lol.
I have never replied to or commented on anything you have done... ever.
Wrong again, on 2 fronts. No other character on MvC3 can combo like Dante... NOT ONE! Do you know how easy it is to do massive combos when entering a single command does a several-hit combo? Then multiply that by the many different specials Dante has that are just like that... tie in the simplicity to do those single command combos, etc. Bascially, you either dont know what you are talking about or you are actively attempting to get away with blatant lies.Xzi said:I already have played him, and like I said, I didn't care for him. The only evidence you've given on him being OP so far is that he can easily chain together combos. So can every single other semi-fast character. So quite frankly, you have no argument.
Well, I guess your argument is, "Dante is OP because I lose to him." Which is also ridiculous, because you've already admitted to purposefully picking the team that you're the worst with. ANY team of characters would beat you for that reason.
Actually I have read that comment, its ridiculous and complete bullshit. A character isnt OP because of what they can do at advanced levels, being able to do those advanced things is called "skill". So forgive me for firstly not reading your comment and then for wishing I hadnt read your comment because it is complete bullshit. So forgive me for that and forgive me for ignoring your future ridiculous comments.Dreiko said:What I quoted said that no Dante user wrote in this thread he wasn't broken, this is false, I did post that he wasn't broken and I do use him.
Either you didn't read or understand my aforementioned post about Dante not being broken or you're just saying stuff without backup, either way, you did comment on what I have done since you talked about what the Dante users are posting here, of which I am one.
You're completely wrong, only at the highest levels of skill do tiers (if someone is OP or not) matter, when everyone is a noob things like mashing supers from all across the screen or using the same unsafe slow move are effective but those tactics would fail at a higher skill levels where people know not to mash physical moves when their opponent can blast them at any second for no risk or other such common sense things people currently are unaware of so to base the value of a character upon such stupid things is bad. Thor or Hulk would be god tier too since they can do so much damage for such a few moves.Kinguendo said:Actually I have read that comment, its ridiculous and complete bullshit. A character isnt OP because of what they can do at advanced levels, being able to do those advanced things is called "skill". So forgive me for firstly not reading your comment and then for wishing I hadnt read your comment because it is complete bullshit. So forgive me for that and forgive me for ignoring your future ridiculous comments.Dreiko said:What I quoted said that no Dante user wrote in this thread he wasn't broken, this is false, I did post that he wasn't broken and I do use him.
Either you didn't read or understand my aforementioned post about Dante not being broken or you're just saying stuff without backup, either way, you did comment on what I have done since you talked about what the Dante users are posting here, of which I am one.
You are saying I am completely wrong... based on something that is yet to be determined? Well done, you lose. THAT is the end of this discussion, dont bother me again with your pretentious bullshit.Dreiko said:You're completely wrong, only at the highest levels of skill do tiers (if someone is OP or not) matter, when everyone is a noob things like mashing supers from all across the screen or using the same unsafe slow move are effective but those tactics would fail at a higher skill levels where people know not to mash physical moves when their opponent can blast them at any second for no risk or other such common sense things people currently are unaware of so to base the value of a character upon such stupid things is bad. Thor or Hulk would be god tier too since they can do so much damage for such a few moves.
Just because a character is noob friendly or mash-friendly and effective without need for much skill (like Dante) it doesn't make him overpowered, it just makes him easy to use. As for combos, you really need to look up some 100% HP Felicia combos for no x-factor before branding Dante as the king of combos, his stuff prorates so bad that he's better at building meter than doing damage lol.
To summarize, only when used by the maximum level of skill and after having realized their full potential can a character be truly regarded as broken or not, currently mostly everyone who plays this game is a noob, doesn't know how to handle elementary situations and everything based upon the experience of someone like that simply is not an accurate depiction of the ultimate nature of the characters. It is an early impression that needs further supplementation and nothing more. To tread it as the end-all truth about a character being broken is very unwise and will net you nothing but wrongness.
Yes, we don't know yet, you're wrong to act as though what you're saying is fact when nothing is set in stone. Every premise of your idea is not there thus everything you say is unsupported and wrong until proven right. To jump the gun and brand chars broken when the game hasn't been out for a week and everyone still falls for stupid tactics that won't work a month from today is extremely stupid.Kinguendo said:You are saying I am completely wrong... based on something that is yet to be determined? Well done, you lose. THAT is the end of this discussion, dont bother me again with your pretentious bullshit.Dreiko said:You're completely wrong, only at the highest levels of skill do tiers (if someone is OP or not) matter, when everyone is a noob things like mashing supers from all across the screen or using the same unsafe slow move are effective but those tactics would fail at a higher skill levels where people know not to mash physical moves when their opponent can blast them at any second for no risk or other such common sense things people currently are unaware of so to base the value of a character upon such stupid things is bad. Thor or Hulk would be god tier too since they can do so much damage for such a few moves.
Just because a character is noob friendly or mash-friendly and effective without need for much skill (like Dante) it doesn't make him overpowered, it just makes him easy to use. As for combos, you really need to look up some 100% HP Felicia combos for no x-factor before branding Dante as the king of combos, his stuff prorates so bad that he's better at building meter than doing damage lol.
To summarize, only when used by the maximum level of skill and after having realized their full potential can a character be truly regarded as broken or not, currently mostly everyone who plays this game is a noob, doesn't know how to handle elementary situations and everything based upon the experience of someone like that simply is not an accurate depiction of the ultimate nature of the characters. It is an early impression that needs further supplementation and nothing more. To tread it as the end-all truth about a character being broken is very unwise and will net you nothing but wrongness.
False equivalency, I never said I lost to him... but I never said I won either... nor did I say I have even played against Dante. I was highlighting how you completely fabricated sections of your argument with assumptions and nothing more.Xzi said:Okay, so you're saying that a character you've never lost to, not ONCE, is overpowered? That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. Seriously. The very definition of overpowered is the ability to beat most other characters with little trouble.Kinguendo said:Wrong again, on 2 fronts. No other character on MvC3 can combo like Dante... NOT ONE! Do you know how easy it is to do massive combos when entering a single command does a several-hit combo? Then multiply that by the many different specials Dante has that are just like that... tie in the simplicity to do those single command combos, etc. Bascially, you either dont know what you are talking about or you are actively attempting to get away with blatant lies.Xzi said:I already have played him, and like I said, I didn't care for him. The only evidence you've given on him being OP so far is that he can easily chain together combos. So can every single other semi-fast character. So quite frankly, you have no argument.
Well, I guess your argument is, "Dante is OP because I lose to him." Which is also ridiculous, because you've already admitted to purposefully picking the team that you're the worst with. ANY team of characters would beat you for that reason.
I never once said I lost a single match to Dante... not once nor did I say I use the characters I play worst with.
I am not the one crying here, you think because you have your nose in a fictional characters ass that the naysayer is crying? Pityful.Xzi said:And what exactly are you basing your argument on? Again, nothing. Give me facts, figures. You wouldn't be crying about how he is overpowered unless you have indeed played against him a number of times, regardless of the outcome. I'm only going on what you can tell me about your experiences against him, because I personally have had more trouble with several other characters in the game.