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searanox

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jthm post=18.73440.796303 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism

I rather suspect that those of you who describe yourselves as optimistic cynics, pessimistic nihlists and most of you who put forth some pseudo philosophy like Anton Lavey's would find this link helpful.

Absurdist all the way.
So Satanism is a pseudophilosophy, but "absurdism" isn't? What constitutes a "pseudophilosophy" exactly? The term itself, from my understanding, is rather nebulous. I am well aware that a lot of the ideas (in fact, most of them) are unoriginal and borrowed from other thinkers such as Ayn Rand, Nietzsche, and even Hobbes (LaVey even outright plaigarised a few passages in his writings), but it's the combination of those ideas into a cohesive whole that makes it significant; this does it remove any truth from them. I actually thought that Satanism was silly until I actually realised that every single thing it said was in line with my own views. While I still have a bit of trouble calling it a traditional religion (magic and rituals make it sound neat and occult, but the way they're described essentially boils down to "stuff that you do for fun and for profit"), I don't think there's anything justified in calling it a pseudophilosophy when it brings a previously nonexistent sense of cohesion to somewhat disparate ideas.
 

Gitsnik

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Two:

1. Trust is a weakness, love is an affliction, pain is your friend she tells you you're alive when you think you shouldn't be.

2. I'm awesome. I know it, everyone whose ever dealt with me knows it, you will know it. Deal with it.
 

Uncompetative

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jthm post=18.73440.796303 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism

I rather suspect that those of you who describe yourselves as optimistic cynics, pessimistic nihlists and most of you who put forth some pseudo philosophy like Anton Lavey's would find this link helpful.

Absurdist all the way.
Okay, looking at the table on your referenced Wikipedia page I can enumerate my philosophy quite well...

1. There is such a thing as "meaning" or "value" to be found in life

Yes, but it is only subjective and ephemeral (i.e. short-lived)

2. There is inherent meaning in the universe (either intrinsic or from God)

No. Incidentally, I do not personally believe in God, Jesus, the Devil, Buddha, Shiva, or Santa Claus. I try to live in Reality...

3. Individuals can create meaning in life themselves

Yes, but inevitably this will be inconsistent with other people/groups who have other ideas. I have no morality, yet strive for good manners

4. The pursuit of intrinsic or extrinsic meaning in the universe is a futile gesture

Ultimately, yes.

I can also explain why:

When people ask the question "What is the meaning of Life?" they are looking for the definitive answer to the question they have in mind even though one person may want to know why the Universe exists and another may want to know the ultimate goal for our species. The very large number of conflicting answers to this question implies that there is a difficulty with it, but it isn't that it can't be answered. Rather, the problem is that it can't be asked. Just look at the question grammatically and you will see why.

There is no problem with the words LIFE, MEANING, or THE; although most of the problems would go away if you were to rephrase the question as "What is a meaning of Life?" - however, it is the definitive, ultimate, eternal answer that is sought.

The actual problem is with the word OF.

Just think about it for a moment. When you ask a smaller (answerable) question, such as "What is the url of the Escapist?" you are talking about the intrinsic qualities of an entity/object/system that is in the Universe and part of Life. Everything under discussion lies within the totality of everything that could potentially be referred to by language. Yet LIFE, THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING is such a large 'set' that you can not put yourself conceptually outside of it to ask the question objectively.

In other words, you can only objectively use OF when you can ensure that you and the language you use form a disjoint set and as there can be no disjoint set to the universal set, there can be no fully independent point of view. Therefore, there is no extrinsic meaning of life.

So, all attempts at an eternal, definitive, objective answer are futile. Yet, subjective, ephemeral, personal (consoling/motivating/etc,) answers are worthwhile provided that it is accepted that they hold no ultimate authority and are all essentially dead-ends in the long term.

5. The pursuit of constructed meaning is a futile gesture

Not really, as I have explain in 4. the only meaning of life one can adopt is personal and subjective and flawed because it is necessarily ephemeral and not definitive, yet even without an ultimate meaning to live by I enjoy myself. Accept these limitations and you will realize that you have to be tolerant of other people's 'concepts of ephemeral meaning' whilst being able to be wary of people of faith whose often fundamentalist 'concept of ultimate meaning' is the only way things can be despite being fundamentally untenable.

So, I suppose it boils down to three things:

Good manners. Tolerance. Avoidance.

Or in the wise words of Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

'Be excellent to each other.'
 
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Uncompetative post=18.73440.796592 said:
Or in the wise words of Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

'Be excellent to each other.'
It would be pretty odd if that was actually the future we were heading towards...

God gave Rock and Roll to you...gave rock and roll to you...put it in the soul for everyone...
 

Stalington

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faith is like a bowl of Ramen noodle soup: anyone can get it, its cheap and it leaves you all warm and fuzzy inside.
 

Uszi

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Souplex post=18.73440.795466 said:
We all live by a philosophy, what's yours?

Mine is a mix of narcicissim darwinisim and eugenics.[!!!]
And the OP's trolling is ignored.

Otherwise, say he wasn't trolling, I'm offended that no one called out one of their fellow human-beings on believing in something as flawed or inhumane as eugenics. The OP essentially said, "I like Hitler's Philosophy," and everyone played ball with him.
 

Souplex

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Find something that works and stick with it untill it stops working.
 

DannyDeparted

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If at first you don't succeed, redefine 'Success'.
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati - When all else fails, play dead.
 

Cheesus333

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"Everything is good unless it's not."

It's true, you'll see. Also that it's better to be right and dead than living in stupidity.
 

Slycne

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Whatever floats your boat / Whatever you want to do in the comfort of your own home
 

oobee

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strength in weakness and weakness in strength.

i think there's a lot to be said for such a philosophy. Your weakness can give strength to other people and yourself if you can recognize your weaknesses and the second part my philosophy warns us of laziness and cockiness.
 

Omnidum

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"If it's too good, it's a trap."

I learnt that lesson a googolplex times in my life.
 

Archemetis

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nice guys finish last but the poeple who get there first are typically the ones left dissapointed.