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KurtNiisan

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The Irrelevant Gamer said:
Nintendo and I broke up after the N64. We got back together for a short while during the whole Gamecube thing, but it proved to be a mistake. I've flirted with the Wii, but we're not seeing each other.
- Agreed, except mine seemed to have happened a little earlier. I started out by dating an original Gameboy. Then I moved onto her sister, the Gameboy Pocket. We broke up after that and I stayed away from the Nintendo family for years. Then the Wii came around. We had a relationship for about 3 months before I sold her on the Internet to pay bills.

Now, I'm doing both the Xbox360 and PS3 and my life is great! ^^
 

wilsonscrazybed

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Looking at it from a purely hardware perspective I have to say that Nintendo isn't doing itself any favors by aiming so low on the system specs. It's alright right now to look like a slightly upgraded ps2, but I have a feeling that this system is already getting gray around the temples. Nintendo has cool IPs, but I have saved the princess, and zelda for 20 years now. This time I have the chance to do it again, only this time waving my arms in the air like an indecisive fencer fighting off a swarm of bees. IPs be damned I need something new from Nintendo.

For me buying a console was reliant on one thing, can it play GTA 4? If the answer is no, I must bid you ado good system.

The DS on the other hand is awesome, great price and awesome non-committal games that are perfect for bus or subway rides. I just wish they'd focus a little less on minigames and tamagochi(sp) clones.
 

Tancred

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Kaisharga said:
Nintendo is like those hot librarian girls. They're very different in style from the rest of their environment, and they look really good and are really fun for a while. But when you discover they don't actually have anything deeper, that they're not hiding anything under that nerdly child-friendly curiosity, that that's who they really are--then it's kind of ho-hum, no matter how good they look.
I registered on this forum specifically to say: That's an awesome paragraph, and I love you for it.

But since I'm already posting, I'll chip in to the general discussion as well.

I've always admired Nintendo's ability to turn out games that parents have such little to object to, other than the amount of time their children spend playing them. They've made a conscious choice not to drown their gamers in blood and sin like some developers, and that's pretty cool. Don't get me wrong - I love the GTA series (for example) - but I don't think it's something I could/should play when my kids are in the room.
 

sfried

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I never undertsood the hate for Nintendo. They're a game publisher just like any other, and you can do worse like with Sony and their hatred of all things 2D.

I used to be the inquisitive Nintendo fanboy, but nowdays it's more about the games themselves than the companies. (And the money.) I don't feel the need to proselytize my prefered system of choice, at the same time I don't think other should give the said console the unwarranted bashings.

That, or I think hating Nintendo has become a trend nowdays by people desparately trying to seek attention. It's not that that company doesn't have faults, but then again, what company hasn't?
 

werepossum

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I've never owned a Nintendo console or game, but I have a pretty good opinion of the company. Rather than trying to compete against the XBox 360 and PS3 (and probably losing badly) they changed the paradigm and became wildly successful again. So even though their games leave me cold, I admire them as a truly innovative company which is advancing the industry and broadening the gaming audience. (And thereby lessening the chance that some asshat politician will take away my games.)
 

Iron Hide

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I despise Nintendo for one reason. The Wii.

The Wii is the bane of my gaming existance. All my mates have Wii's and I don't know why, their graphics make me cringe, it's like they've taken Nintendo 64 and added a pain in the ass controller that doesn't even work! Sure, on all the promo's and trailers released by gaming companies about their Wii games, everything works great with the flick of a wrist. Well, I rented out Mortal Kombat: Armageddon last night and well, if by flick of your wrist you mean violently swining your arm in a motion that can only be described as "The Windmill" then sure. But, it's the same in EVERY Wii game, take for instance Mario Party 900 where you get to play loads of repetitive uncreative mini-games, especially the fucking clock game. You have to turn your "Wiimote" in the direction you want to turn the clock hands, but then the bastard doesn't stop. The Wii should come with the Disclaimer; "Warning, May cause Carpal Tunnel Syndrome."
 

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Nintendo is the easily overlooked girl in the room wearing T-shirt and jeans. She's modest, fun when you get her by herself, and you wouldn't feel weird about her meeting your mom. Then there're the other two in the cock-tease dresses with WAY to much make-up on. Boy don't they think alot of themselves? Sure they make look good in a Ron Jeremy video, but you'd never let them meet your parents.
As odd as that sounds, I think you've made the perfect point. I've always liked Nintendo. They've always been able to provide decent to superb video-gaming for near 2 decades. They've always revolutionized the way we play our games as well. Not to mention they've pretty much defined and owned the hand-held market. All the haters out there that say Wii is a crappy system and that no one likes it are either retarded or are ignoring the explosive sales it's had since day 1. They STILL can't keep them in stock even with 2 new production plants now making them. It says a lot that it's out-sold the 360 in spades even though the 360's had a years head start. I think it's time the haters shut the hell up and come to terms with the fact that maybe, just maybe, nintendo knows what the hell it's doing. Besides, with them bringing more and more non-gamers into the market, that can only bode well for us as it means a huge influx of funds going to gaming companies, who can then provide more games for us. Win win. I'm by no means saying they're perfect. They've made some games as of late I can only describe as "aggravatingly bland", but they've also made a few that can sit at the top in quality with the other greats of the industry.

oh, and rent. They have places that help with illiteracy. You may want to look them up instead of sitting on your "cough" playing video games.

As for the others that complain about Wii and that say, quote, "you have to move your arms and fling your wrists? how gay". god forbid you get up off your fat asses and move. you people want to experience true VR one day? Well this is the next logical step forward from the antiquated controller of yester-years design. You think with the advent of true VR (if it ever happens) you'll be whisked away into a virtual world in a manner not unlike that of the matrix's cerebral implants or VR helmets/suits, but then control yourself in said virtual world with a controller? Lol.

P.S. Sorry for the rant, but sometimes they can be very therapeutic. ;)
 

Goddy of War 2008

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Nintendo will always be the best Gaming company in the World. They were the first, and they will be the last if it ever comes to that. I'm not a fanboy either as I own an Xbox 360 which has given me the Three Red Lights a total of 4 times.
 
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Goddy of War 2008 said:
Nintendo will always be the best Gaming company in the World. They were the first, and they will be the last if it ever comes to that. I'm not a fanboy either as I own an Xbox 360 which has given me the Three Red Lights a total of 4 times.
Nintendo was by no means the first video game company.
 

Goddy of War 2008

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The Irrelevant Gamer said:
Goddy of War 2008 said:
Nintendo will always be the best Gaming company in the World. They were the first, and they will be the last if it ever comes to that. I'm not a fanboy either as I own an Xbox 360 which has given me the Three Red Lights a total of 4 times.
Nintendo was by no means the first video game company.
The first TRUE gaming company. As in popularity. Sega or Atari could not have been the most popular as they both no longer have consoles.
 
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Goddy of War 2008 said:
The Irrelevant Gamer said:
Goddy of War 2008 said:
Nintendo will always be the best Gaming company in the World. They were the first, and they will be the last if it ever comes to that. I'm not a fanboy either as I own an Xbox 360 which has given me the Three Red Lights a total of 4 times.
Nintendo was by no means the first video game company.
The first TRUE gaming company. As in popularity. Sega or Atari could not have been the most popular as they both no longer have consoles.
I see what you mean. In many ways Nintendo will always be the video game company to a lot of people. How many of us have parents, or grandparents that call every console a Nintendo?
 

Goddy of War 2008

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The Irrelevant Gamer said:
Goddy of War 2008 said:
The Irrelevant Gamer said:
Goddy of War 2008 said:
Nintendo will always be the best Gaming company in the World. They were the first, and they will be the last if it ever comes to that. I'm not a fanboy either as I own an Xbox 360 which has given me the Three Red Lights a total of 4 times.
Nintendo was by no means the first video game company.
The first TRUE gaming company. As in popularity. Sega or Atari could not have been the most popular as they both no longer have consoles.
I see what you mean. In many ways Nintendo will always be the video game company to a lot of people. How many of us have parents, or grandparents that call every console a Nintendo?
Exactly. Sony and Microsoft have left a name for themselves in Popular culture, but Nintendo was the ORIGINAL gaming relation to enter pop culture.
 

Pyrrian

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I don't really have a very high opinion of Nintendo, at the moment. Unlike a lot of people, the NES wasn't my first gaming system, and, while I quite enjoyed NES and SNES games, the N64 left me feeling a bit cold. To this day, I would hands down play Super Mario Bros 1, 2, 3, The Legend of Zelda, Zelda 2, and A Link to the Past over any 3D Nintendo game. There was something compelling about their 2D games. They required reflex, memorization, some creativity, and a little extra touch. Now, with their 3D games, they tend to deliver a drawn-out product with crummy sound effects, missing voice acting, and a habitually bad camera. They're trying to give a more character-based, story-driven, adventure experience, but without actually delivering a good script, voice acting, modern technology for visual immersion, or novel and compelling characters.

Motion control is another great example of this sort of recent half-assedness. Here's a hypothetically cool system. Interacting directly with a game is probably something most gamers dream about. But this just isn't it. It's like some twisted mutant offspring that should be left to the wolves at birth. Instead of crisp, direct controls, you have a slobbish compilation of "close enough" movements that, only when performed slowly enough to be recognized, create an action on screen that might possibly resemble what you do in a very slight manner. You're not dodging, blocking, and rolling with the prowess of a suburban ninja, you're just waving your hand at something. I suspect there are a couple reasons for this. The first is that they've hamstrung their hardware from the get-go. It just isn't powerful or sensitive enough to take input so quickly and translate it into game-input. Second, they have, if their commercials are to be belived, created a system targeted at everyone from 5-95. Now, with all fairness to the occasional spry 80-something out there, 5 and 85 year olds probably lack the motor skills to perform certain precise, speedy actions. And, as Nintendo has repeatedly said, they want everyone to be able to play together, with newcomers not being totally boned against vets.

Well that sucks, really, because if I sink time into a game, I expect to get better. And, I expect to be significantly better than Grandpa Pyrrian, so that when he picks up a Wiimote and tries to change the TV channel, he doesn't promptly knock my ass out in Wii Boxing. You see, as far as I'm concerned, Nintendo's refusal to split their demographics means that they largely put out a game for everyone under the sun. Unfortunately, I don't typically play with everyone under the sun because my years of hiding my gaming habit in a dark hole to escape inevitable social murder means that my few, trusted, game-playing friends do it often, with a long history, sense of context, and desire for skillful competition, technical capability, and lack of pedantic drivel.

So, no, I don't hate Nintendo. I think what they're doing is a lot like asking your friends over only to tell them, upon arrival, to screw-off because some hot girls came over to and hang out while you do all their homework. In the end, you probably win. Your audience is bigger, you practice a lot of homework, and you might get a novelty date or some money out of it, but you're still acting like a jack-ass to the people supported you for years. In short, I'm disappointed because I think they're letting slip a lot of potential, simply because it's cheap, easy, and they can get away with it. Successful, maybe, but success isn't always achieved through admirable tactics.
 

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The Irrelevant Gamer said:
Nintendo and I broke up after the N64. We got back together for a short while during the whole Gamecube thing, but it proved to be a mistake. I've flirted with the Wii, but we're not seeing each other.
Same here, although it was right before the N64 and I've been sneaking out with the GBA on and off since.
 

raankh

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Goddy of War 2008 said:
Exactly. Sony and Microsoft have left a name for themselves in Popular culture, but Nintendo was the ORIGINAL gaming relation to enter pop culture.
Ah, I dunno, Atari was at least contemporary. Sure, Nintendo was founded in 1889 or whatever, but still, Atari was there from the start, in fact the 2600 (originally called VCS) was released about 6 years prior to the NES. Pop culture is as much Pong, Space Invaders and Pacman; all Atari 2600 titles.
 

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I think Nintendo aren't doing anything new. They cater to the same demographic with the same franchises. The only things they've done that are original are gimmicky. Wii has a white stick that you wave around, the virtual boy had "3D" and if you were caught playing a gameboy in public you were sacrificed to Joe, God of normal people, witch means you have to play it at home when you have a NES or Sega Master System that is 5x better. Seriously, I'm surprised the game boy managed to get of the ground.
 

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Tsk Tsk. Mostly Nintendo haters her at the Escapist as well. I honestly expected better.

What people dont seem to realize is that Nintendo is repeating history. I remember when my parents got me an NES. I just wanted to try it out, at first I played it casually. But the more I played it the more I enjoyed it. Even though I skipped the SNES, I was more than ready for the N64. When it came Christmas Morning, it blew my mind the next few years. This same thing is going to happen with the Wii. Nintendo made the smart move to actually bring in a new audience of casual people. Those people will eventually evolve into the hardcore that we are today. Of course most of us see the Wii demographic as ludicrious because we are hardcore gamers, we have been playing this shit for years. But Nintendo has been good to me, so I am not going to backstab it. They learn from there mistakes, so they know what they are doing.
 

teh_gunslinger

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I started out on the C 64 and went on to the NES. Then I got an Amiga500 and never looked to Nintendo again. It just doesn't do anything for me. I've tried all their other systems, but never found them interesting. So I'm gratefull for Nintendo giving me the love of gaming (still play Super Mario Bros 3) on my pc, but they lost me somewhere along the line.

I've only tried the Wii a handfull of times, but I don't really care for it. Not even when I'm wasted. I have no feeling of "this is really funny" when I'm flailing my arms about. I prefer to sit in my couch and play my games on an old fashioned controler. So for now I'm happily engaged to my 5 year old PS2. Though the old girl is getting a bit old and tired. When I get rich I'll by her a playmate or mayby 2 (PS3 and/or the 360) but don't tell her that.
Oh, and of course I have a pc for when the console games get to stupid and I need to use my head. Deus Ex FTW!
 

Wengle

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Nintendo have this great habit, which I'll divulge into individual steps:
1. Invent a popular/appealing/colourful/original series/game.
2. Make sure its previewed at least a million times, and make it always look extremely different.
3. Release the game. Media loves it, and fanboys love it. The game is designed to be fun for the first hour/week, and be extremely popular.
4. One hour/week later, its on the shelf, never to be completed or played again.
5. Repeat this exact procedure, except spend forever changing the games characters/map names, and whatdaya know, its a hit series with lots of money.