Your Thoughts: Nintendo

[PsychoJosh]

Um, what? It's quite clear from this first line alone you haven't even played a Nintendo game in years, so you've already got roughly 80% of the people no longer taking you seriously.

Too true, too true. I'm sorry, most of that post was indeed embellished; NO ONE AT ALL is capable of finding anything wrong with Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3. They're pure gaming perfection, and making a post like this implies that I haven't played these glorious titles bestowed upon us by the gods of gaming. [/humorousandoriginalsarcasmtagwhichdoesntreallyexist]

Yeah, Nintendo's entire rabid fan base is for nothing but Super Mario Bros. 3 and Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. [/sarcasm]

You missed one, it's also for Zelda: LTTP.

Just because you believe the few games that you've never played and have been marketed for the Nintendo Wii are shit doesn't mean the entire library is such. In fact there are quite a few worthwhile games for the system that don't really get the attention they deserve--probably because fools like you who don't even bother playing one will shit all over a system they've decided to hate before even playing it.

Is that your whole argument here? Seriously? You're honestly saying that the only reason I wrote a negative tirade on the Wii and Nintendo is because I haven't played it? I can't help picture a spectacled, neckbearded blob with a cheeto-stained Super Mushroom T-shirt looking to a giant, framed picture of Shigeru Miyamoto above his desk with fatherly admiration as he types this out.

Yes you idiot, I haven't played the Wii, as it is utterly impossible to hate such an incredible system and I am a heathen to the various golden deities of electronic entertainment. Thank you for striking me down with your mighty keyboard and showing the errors of my ways, o pastor. I will now seek out a Wii to be enlightened with the most wonderful experience in electronic entertainment so that I may join you in the sacred church of deluded fanboy shitheads. [/anotherhilariousfakesarcasmtagthesearentgettingoldatall]

As for being gimmicky, no self-respecting gamer buys a system because of a gimmick. To believe so is just moronic, and... oh, right.

You are so, so wrong it physically hurts. How are you even worthy to breathe the same air as Shiggy-sama if you've already forgotten Nintendo's new mantra?! They don't give a rat's ass about gamers anymore. They know the REAL money is their new expanded audience of little kids, soccer moms and 50-year old golfers. Yet you honestly believe that the Wii is selling for a reason OTHER than its waggle gimmick. Yeah, it's selling for its absolutely stellar titles where you grate cheese/swat flies/roll a ball into a hole/fold laundry. Oh no? Then perhaps it's selling for its incredible online service where you can pay money to download roms. Or maybe, just maybe, it's getting by on impulse sales made by ass-kissing fanboys like yourself and parents who that don't want to spend much on video games for their kids.

No, wait, that last reason is utterly and completely preposterous!

To say nothing about the Final Fantasy series, which DID originally start on a Nintendo console. But hey, what does an unpopular series like Final Fantasy count for? [/more sarcasm]

A series which is now almost entirely exclusive to the Playstation... indeed, what does it count for? "HURF DURF WELL IT GOT STARTED ON A NINTENDO CONSOLE AND THAT'S THE ONLY PART I NEED FOR MY ARGUMENT SO WHO CARES WHERE IT IS NOW AMIRITE?!"

Final Fantasy started in an era where Nintendo was the only logical choice for any video game developer to make anything, but regardless I bet you're still going to use them for your argument because they started on a Nintendo console even though they didn't really have any other choice. Oh wait, there was the master system, yes, every successful game developer wanted to jump RIGHT ONTO that, didn't they?

Just because a company doesn't abandon a franchise that is still widely successful doesn't mean they're stagnating. It means they're staying loyal to the fan base that grew up with them.

A.K.A., pandering to fans with fanservicey games. Oh wait, that's still not "brand loyalty", right?

Fact is, every game in the series is an evolution of the previous one, and it's not as though the storyline doesn't change at all. I wonder if you even know what the word means, but it seems you have no problem criticizing games you've never played, so why not use words you don't know, too?

Anyone who plays a Mario game for the story is an idiotic tool. Even Nintendo knows this, which is why they keep recycling the same "Mario saves the princess from Bowser" storyline over and over again... oh shit, sorry, I just spoiled Mario Galaxy for you!

Tell me what's different about the past 3 Zelda games? You go through elemental-themed dungeons for the nth time (totally not fanservice in any way), pushing blocks and lighting torches to fight an elemental boss and kill him easily by hitting him in his glowing weakspot with the item you just found in that same dungeon. Mario's the same, he saves the princess all the time by collecting gold stars and other colored crap he needs to collect to get to the gold stars, which are, of course, always scattered across the ubiquitous beaches and tundras and haunted houses.

You're the one who should stop touting words that you obviously don't know the meaning of, like "evolution".

Yes, because we all loved the length and depth of Halo 3.

Halo 3 is purely a multiplayer game. All the people who bought it did so for the multiplayer, and that's millions of people who'll be playing it online for several years to come, just as they're still doing with Gears of War and Halo 2. So yes, it does have more depth and length than any Mario game, and that is a fact. They're not like Wii owners; hardly anyone bought the game solely for the single player. I personally can't justify blowing 60 bucks on a game I'll only play through once.

And even so, the Halo series is officially finished, not counting the few spinoffs it'll have. Gamers won't see Master Chief again for a long, long time, not even in said spinoffs. Microsoft knows the series is over. That's it, finito. Microsoft will have to come up with something new if they wanna keep selling their consoles. This acts as fuel for creativity, something Nintendo just doesn't have. Can you tell me when, if ever, the Mario and Zelda series will reach a fucking CLIMAX? They never go anywhere with these games, they just repeat the same shit, always. When's Mario gonna get married to Peach? When are all the Zelda games going to be tied together in a meaningful, significant way? Knowing Nintendo, probably never.

I didn't know you were an expert on what people did with their games after they finished playing them, but allow me the one to completely tear down your theory. Last month I went and bought an old Nintendo from a pawn shop so I could go ahead and play the original Legend of Zelda again. That's right, I went back to a system and a game that's over a decade old, played through it again and I still loved it--crappy 2D graphics, weak storyline and all. Even in this day and age of super-advanced graphics and enriching in-depth plots and story lines, I can still go back and enjoy a game like that. That's what we call a classic. Meanwhile my PS2 has been sitting under my TV for about a year now, and THAT is now collecting dust.

Oh yes, you've proven yourself to be quite unbiased and impartial with the rest of your brilliant post, and totally not the kind of person who chugs Nintendo's cock every waking moment of his life. You have completely respectable opinions and I doubt very much you'd pay money to play an old Nintendo game simply for nostalgia reasons! You must be a true gentleman, and not someone who responds with personal attacks whenever someone dares even imply that his favorite video game company might be less than perfect! [/sarcasm? no shit?]

That's just a lie. Many people enjoyed Sega before they took the Sonic series and tried to give it that Darker And Edgier feel that most gamers seemed to eat up back then(and still do). I myself loved my Sega Genesis while I had it, and who didn't love the original Sonic games?

I don't recall any of Sega's consoles doing particularly well, not even the Genesis. It doesn't mean their games were bad.

Most of those nostalgia freaks who are fueled by brand loyalty and follow Nintendo's instructions to get their grandparents into playing crappy waggle minigame-fests are the reason they're doing well today.

Minigame-fests? I suppose by that extension the XBox is for those chumps who need to blow shit up before they have fun.

What the fuck are you talking about?

You're saying that the Xbox is only for "chumps" who like "blowing stuff up" in video games? Yes, blowing stuff up isn't fun at all and only for the lowest common denominator of guttermouthed neanderthals who can't comprehend the deep, emotional intensity of platform hopping in a Mario game, which you have to be a member of MENSA to truly appreciate.

Far better for them to like blowing stuff up and having actual variety in their games than to be a deluded wiitard who is constantly duped into re-purchasing and downloading the same Zelda or Mario game every year. I wonder when the nostalgic appeal of having to push blocks and light torches with a stick will start to lose its edge. Maybe never in a hundred years.

I'm not showing brand-loyalty.

I'm just not oblivious to the fact that Nintendo is the king of video games for good reason.

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...Not only have you contradicted yourself in the biggest possible way, you have also proven that if every single atom in the universe were a colored pixel that could be turned on or off to collectively form an image, it still wouldn't form enough rolleyes smileys to properly express what an utter and complete moron you are.

Even the few people who took you seriously up to this point are just rolling their eyes at you now. I don't suppose it's too late to discourage you from procreation, though.

I shudder at the implications of this. I'm apparently not enough of a Nintendo fanboy to exist in this new ideal world of yours, which only the Nintendo Cumswallowing Elite may walk upon. Billions of people all under the despotic rule of Nintendo, living with a law that decrees not having at least one TV and one Nintendo console in every household is punishable by execution. You'd live as a duke of this new Earth, and holding your iron wiimote high in the air, you would seek out blasphemers of the Nintendo Seal of Quality, and bring down the thunder onto the backs of their skulls with the power... super power bestowed upon you to play with by the terrestrial gods of gaming.

It's quite a horrible thought, a world inhabited only by your drooling, retarded offspring... but then I breathe a sigh of relief, knowing you're the kind of person who will never get that kind of opportunity.

 

[TheTakenOne]

LOL, you are wrong!

I love the Wii and I know spyro and crash were big hits on the Playstation 2.

I own my very own Wii, also I was just making a simple point about how...
1) The Wii is a console that should be admired for getting creative.
2) The PS3 has no great titles and fails to be better than the Wii in 08.
3) The X-box 360 is the greater console, yet people are to caught up online to play a story mode with a straight face.

"SORRY, BUT JESUS CHRIST MAKE FUN GAMES AGAIN BEFORE VIDEOGAMING BECOMES DEAD"!!!!!!!!

"AND NO REMAKES, JUST KEEP TO MOST GREAT OLD GAMES WITH NEW FUN MODES AND A MIX OF NEW GAMES"

I'm so not wrong. I'm never wrong. It's a universal impossibility. Check it out sometime.

The PS3 has indeed had a bad start, but I believe this is because the damned thing was released far too early. Given some time it'll have plenty of good games and the system will be better(hopefully cheaper too) and I'll be more than happy to go grab one.

Of course, I could be wrong about that and it'll fall behind just like the Gamecube in the previous generation.

The 360 is only the best console because it's had about a year's head start, and even then I'd rather have the Wii for the few games I like on it.

 

[briantw]

Whoever said that KOTOR had the same story as Mass Effect, just shut up, seriously. The gameplay is only similar in that you go around talking to people (which is true for every RPG), and that you start in a large city. And you save the galaxy, but every
game is like that.

Let's recap.

KOTOR: Evil villain is trying to utilize the Star Forge to create a massive army and destroy the universe. Meanwhile, a rogue hero (who also happens to be an elite warrior known as a Jedi) and his group of rag-tag friends must band together and put a stop to this.

Mass Effect: Evil villain is trying to utilize the Citadel Relay to summon a massive army and destroy the universe. Meanwhile, a rogue hero (who also happens to be an elite warrior known as a Spectre) and his group of rag-tag friends must band together and put a stop to this.

You must be the same type of person who thinks that BioShock's story is radically different from System Shock 2 because the game is set underwater instead of in space.

The fact that KOTOR and Mass Effect tell the same basic story doesn't make Mass Effect a bad game (I actually liked it quite a bit), but I don't see how you can ignore the obvious similarities between the two narratives.

However, that's not the point. Other developers are guilty are reusing the same ideas multiple times, but that doesn't make it right. And, none of them, not even Final bloody Fantasy, are guilty of the systematic whoring that Nintendo has done to its characters.

I'll agree that Nintendo does whore out its characters, but it does so in a relatively competent manner. Sure, there are duds out there like most of the Mario Party series, but the fact is that Nintendo has created some of the most iconic characters in gaming, and if they want to make a tennis game and throw Mario in it to spur some sales, I don't see what the big problem is so long as the game is fun.

I don't care if they're fun, or even if they deviate significantly from their predecessors (although they probably don't very much, from what I've seen they're all basically the same with a few differences to get people to buy them), Mario should not appear in over 100 games over the past 20 years.

If you don't care if a game is fun, why do you even play games at all? Is the whole point of playing a game not to have fun? Does Nintendo slipping Donkey Kong into a soccer game make the game automatically suck? Of course not. The fact remains, though, that it's a lot easier to sell a game (especially one like most of the Mario sports titles that's based around simple multi-player fun) with characters that people recognize on the box than it is to make the same game into an original IP that plays the same, but lacks said characters.

What does the amount of games a character appears in have to do with anything? The fact remains that, well, Mario sells. People recognize him. People love him. People have fond memories of him from when they were kids. Add to that the fact that, by and large, most of the games that feature him are actually pretty good, and you can quickly see why it's justified for him to appear in so many games. Now, if every spin-off he appeared in sucked ass, you'd certainly have a case, but that's just not how it is.

At some point, you have to move on and come up with new characters.

As others have mentioned, Nintendo does make other games from time to time, while still managing to pump out their core franchises once every four or five years. Remember Pikmin? That was an original concept. And, as others have mentioned, the Fire Emblem games consistently offer gamers original story-lines. Then there's Battalion Wars and Advance Wars, each of which brought something new to the table. Or how about Animal Crossing, which is a pretty unique experience? Oh yeah, and new ideas like Disaster: Day of Crisis, Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and more. People like to act like all Nintendo ever makes is Mario games, but that's not the case. The Mario games just tend to get most of the attention.

Nintendo has, however, created some pretty damned iconic characters. Everyone knows who Mario is, and he is still very relevant over twenty years after he was created. He'll probably continue to be relevant as long as most of us are alive. The bottom line at the end of the day, though, is that Nintendo is still able to make good, fun Mario games, and as long as they are able to do so, I've got no problem playing them.

Yeah, Halo 3 is somewhat similar to Halo 1. The Master Chief has still only appeared in 3 games. That's a big difference. If Bungie is still making Halo games 20 years from now, then they are comparable.

Halo was also only created six years ago, so it's an entirely unfair and pointless comparison. However, we're already going to see four games in six years (counting Halo wars), so I think that Microsoft may be ready to out-whore Nintendo with the Halo franchise. Hell, we're already seeing Halo soft drinks...

 

[TheTakenOne]

Deep breath, rub hands, clear throat, and away we go.

Too true, too true. I'm sorry, most of that post was indeed embellished; NO ONE AT ALL is capable of finding anything wrong with Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3. They're pure gaming perfection, and making a post like this implies that I haven't played these glorious titles bestowed upon us by the gods of gaming. [/humorousandoriginalsarcasmtagwhichdoesntreallyexist]

If you were to actually confront me about either of those games, I would tell you that Metroid Prime 3's controls are extremely off-putting and I couldn't play the game for more than 10 minutes without getting annoyed. And I've never even touched Super Mario Galaxy and for all I know it really could be a crap game, but to be honest I don't really care because I never intended to get it in the first place.

That's your first failure: your presumption to understand my taste in video games. The second is believing that I responded to your foolish post because I was rushing to the defense of my "beloved Nintendo" when the fact is I know full well that they are far from perfect and that the only reason I decided to take apart your post is because 1) it reeked of ignorance and 2) it was very therapeutic and did well to ease the stress of my lousy holiday weekend, and fortunately for me you've given me another opportunity to do the same, so for this I thank you for allowing me this second opportunity to tell you that you, sir, are a presumptuous moron.

You missed one, it's also for Zelda: LTTP.

What's Zelda: LTTP?

Actually, don't answer that.

Is that your whole argument here? Seriously? You're honestly saying that the only reason I wrote a negative tirade on the Wii and Nintendo is because I haven't played it? I can't help picture a spectacled, neckbearded blob with a cheeto-stained Super Mushroom T-shirt looking to a giant, framed picture of Shigeru Miyamoto above his desk with fatherly admiration as he types this out.

Yes you idiot, I haven't played the Wii, as it is utterly impossible to hate such an incredible system and I am a heathen to the various golden deities of electronic entertainment. Thank you for striking me down with your mighty keyboard and showing the errors of my ways, o pastor. I will now seek out a Wii to be enlightened with the most wonderful experience in electronic entertainment so that I may join you in the sacred church of deluded fanboy shitheads. [/anotherhilariousfakesarcasmtagthesearentgettingoldatall]

My theory about your hate of the Wii was inferred that you added nothing at all credible to the arguement and instead repeated the same things that have been said ad nauseam by every other commenter who thinks watching a few ads for Wii games and playing Wii Sports lends credence to the belief that it's nothing more than a gimmick to attract new fans. Frankly, it was a risk that nearly prevented me from even going near the damn thing, but I gave it a chance and I'm actually glad I did.

What I'm wondering is how anything in this post or my previous one can automatically label me a fanboy just because I happen to like the Wii and actually want to see a valid arguement against it.

You are so, so wrong it physically hurts. How are you even worthy to breathe the same air as Shiggy-sama if you've already forgotten Nintendo's new mantra?! They don't give a rat's ass about gamers anymore. They know the REAL money is their new expanded audience of little kids, soccer moms and 50-year old golfers. Yet you honestly believe that the Wii is selling for a reason OTHER than its waggle gimmick. Yeah, it's selling for its absolutely stellar titles where you grate cheese/swat flies/roll a ball into a hole/fold laundry. Oh no? Then perhaps it's selling for its incredible online service where you can pay money to download roms. Or maybe, just maybe, it's getting by on impulse sales made by ass-kissing fanboys like yourself and parents who that don't want to spend much on video games for their kids.

No, wait, that last reason is utterly and completely preposterous!

Again, I see the word fanboy. I don't think anything needs to be added here.

A series which is now almost entirely exclusive to the Playstation... indeed, what does it count for? "HURF DURF WELL IT GOT STARTED ON A NINTENDO CONSOLE AND THAT'S THE ONLY PART I NEED FOR MY ARGUMENT SO WHO CARES WHERE IT IS NOW AMIRITE?!"

Final Fantasy started in an era where Nintendo was the only logical choice for any video game developer to make anything, but regardless I bet you're still going to use them for your argument because they started on a Nintendo console even though they didn't really have any other choice. Oh wait, there was the master system, yes, every successful game developer wanted to jump RIGHT ONTO that, didn't they?

It was merely an example that was the most likely to be recognized by anyone else reading it.

I'm not even claiming to know everything but you seem to treat every single one of my posts as an opinion stated specifically to defend Nintendo. I don't care about the corporation in general and I'm not going to go ahead and buy every single game they put out because they do produce some mediocre crap.

A.K.A., pandering to fans with fanservicey games. Oh wait, that's still not "brand loyalty", right?

What's pandering to you? Putting out a sequel to a game that's almost an exact copy of the previous one? I guess Nintendo's the only company that does that.

Anyone who plays a Mario game for the story is an idiotic tool. Even Nintendo knows this, which is why they keep recycling the same "Mario saves the princess from Bowser" storyline over and over again... oh shit, sorry, I just spoiled Mario Galaxy for you!

Tell me what's different about the past 3 Zelda games? You go through elemental-themed dungeons for the nth time (totally not fanservice in any way), pushing blocks and lighting torches to fight an elemental boss and kill him easily by hitting him in his glowing weakspot with the item you just found in that same dungeon. Mario's the same, he saves the princess all the time by collecting gold stars and other colored crap he needs to collect to get to the gold stars, which are, of course, always scattered across the ubiquitous beaches and tundras and haunted houses.

You're the one who should stop touting words that you obviously don't know the meaning of, like "evolution".

I know it's the same basic crap and I don't care. I'll still go ahead and play the Fire Emblem series even though there's been barely any changes to the gameplay in the past few years: weapon triangle, trinity of magic, leveling up, promoting units, permadeath, blah, blah, blah.

Again, I really don't see where you were going with this point. Nobody buys the sequel to a game and doesn't expect the gameplay to do a complete 180 and be completely different from the previous game and anyone who does that is an idiot. At the same time, Nintendo manages to change just enough so that it isn't the exact same game as long as you don't go in scrutinizing it and pointing out every single insignificant similarity to the last game. So Mario has to rescue the princess from Bowser and collect a bunch of stars and coins and jump on a bunch of turtle heads to achieve this end. To this I say "So fucking what?" It doesn't diminish the quality of a game especially when you buy it and expect it to follow the same basic formula as its predecessors, but if you go in and expect something completely new and revolutionary you're bound to be in for a major disappointment.

It seems like you've hated every single game in each series you've mentioned and don't care a lick about what else there is out there. Just Mario and Metroid and Zelda and ZOMG I've gotta get to the Wal-Mart!

That was far too long.

Halo 3 is purely a multiplayer game. All the people who bought it did so for the multiplayer, and that's millions of people who'll be playing it online for several years to come, just as they're still doing with Gears of War and Halo 2. So yes, it does have more depth and length than any Mario game, and that is a fact. They're not like Wii owners; hardly anyone bought the game solely for the single player. I personally can't justify blowing 60 bucks on a game I'll only play through once.

I'll let my friend answer this one for me.

"OMG HALO FUCKING 3~creams my pants~ such a great fucking game, i cant beleive it......~puts a gun to my head and shoots myself~"

Not quite what I'd say, but I still found it funny.

Anyway, Halo 3 was merely an example, and admittedly not even a good one. I don't see how pointing any of this out counts much for anything.

Oh yes, you've proven yourself to be quite unbiased and impartial with the rest of your brilliant post, and totally not the kind of person who chugs Nintendo's cock every waking moment of his life. You have completely respectable opinions and I doubt very much you'd pay money to play an old Nintendo game simply for nostalgia reasons! You must be a true gentleman, and not someone who responds with personal attacks whenever someone dares even imply that his favorite video game company might be less than perfect! [/sarcasm? no shit?]

You know, I think this doesn't even need a reply. It sort of speaks for itself, don't you think?

I don't recall any of Sega's consoles doing particularly well, not even the Genesis. It doesn't mean their games were bad.

Sega's games were certainly not bad. It's just that they kind of screwed themselves up by trying to take their games in directions they did not need to take.

What the fuck are you talking about?

You're saying that the Xbox is only for "chumps" who like "blowing stuff up" in video games? Yes, blowing stuff up isn't fun at all and only for the lowest common denominator of guttermouthed neanderthals who can't comprehend the deep, emotional intensity of platform hopping in a Mario game, which you have to be a member of MENSA to truly appreciate.

Far better for them to like blowing stuff up and having actual variety in their games than to be a deluded wiitard who is constantly duped into re-purchasing and downloading the same Zelda or Mario game every year. I wonder when the nostalgic appeal of having to push blocks and light torches with a stick will start to lose its edge. Maybe never in a hundred years.

I was making a point. The XBox is most certainly _not_ for vapid fools who need to blow shit up, it was merely an example of how stupid an assumption like that is. It's really a shame that you went to the trouble to type all that up and didn't even see the point I was trying to make.

Again there I see "Zelda" and "Mario" again as though they are the paragons of what makes Nintendo great. Truth be told I don't give a flying shit about Mario and haven't since the Nintendo 64, and while I still enjoy the Zelda series I haven't enjoyed it since Ocarina of Time. Again, I fail to see how you get anywhere when you continue to repeat the same old games over and over. You seem absolutely convinced that I love the Mario series when the truth is I haven't even liked it since Super Mario 64.

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...Not only have you contradicted yourself in the biggest possible way, you have also proven that if every single atom in the universe were a colored pixel that could be turned on or off to collectively form an image, it still wouldn't form enough rolleyes smileys to properly express what an utter and complete moron you are.

I'll concede that your misunderstanding of that particular quote was entirely my fault for not clarifying what I meant, but this misunderstanding had been cleared up long before you posted your response, so I take no blame for that and I feel no need to even repeat myself.

I shudder at the implications of this. I'm apparently not enough of a Nintendo fanboy to exist in this new ideal world of yours, which only the Nintendo Cumswallowing Elite may walk upon. Billions of people all under the despotic rule of Nintendo, living with a law that decrees not having at least one TV and one Nintendo console in every household is punishable by execution. You'd live as a duke of this new Earth, and holding your iron wiimote high in the air, you would seek out blasphemers of the Nintendo Seal of Quality, and bring down the thunder onto the backs of their skulls with the power... super power bestowed upon you to play with by the terrestrial gods of gaming.

It's quite a horrible thought, a world inhabited only by your drooling, retarded offspring... but then I breathe a sigh of relief, knowing you're the kind of person who will never get that kind of opportunity.

There's that "fanboy" word again. I actually stopped reading after that word because I knew the rest would be some dramatic spiel about what a retarded Nintendo-fellating fanboy I am.

To summarize: don't care about Mario, don't care about baseless arguments, don't care about Halo 3 and definitely don't care about you.

I wish I could've made that rhyme.

 

[Larenxis]

To summarize: don't care about Mario, don't care about baseless arguments, don't care about Halo 3 and definitely don't care about you.

I wish I could've made that rhyme.

Now as I summarize, don't unfocus your eyes,
that'll really mess with the flow.
I'd like to conclude, if I dare be so rude,
I don't care about Mario.
Your arguments are baseless, your flaming is faceless, and your use of 'fanboy' is utterly graceless.
When it comes to Halo 3, the redundancy, of what you've said is blatant (do you disagree?)
And then there is you, when in this milieu, picks on Metroid Corruption and that Zelda chick too.


... Maybe I should go to bed.

 

[TheTakenOne]

Now as I summarize, don't unfocus your eyes,
that'll really mess with the flow.
I'd like to conclude, if I dare be so rude,
I don't care about Mario.
Your arguments are baseless, your flaming is faceless, and your use of 'fanboy' is utterly graceless.
When it comes to Halo 3, the redundancy, of what you've said is blatant (do you disagree?)
And then there is you, when in this milieu, picks on Metroid Corruption and that Zelda chick too.


... Maybe I should go to bed.

You rule. The end.

 

[FireFox170]

I despise Nintendo for one reason. The Wii.

The Wii is the bane of my gaming existance. All my mates have Wii's and I don't know why, their graphics make me cringe, it's like they've taken Nintendo 64 and added a pain in the ass controller that doesn't even work! Sure, on all the promo's and trailers released by gaming companies about their Wii games, everything works great with the flick of a wrist. Well, I rented out Mortal Kombat: Armageddon last night and well, if by flick of your wrist you mean violently swining your arm in a motion that can only be described as "The Windmill" then sure. But, it's the same in EVERY Wii game, take for instance Mario Party 900 where you get to play loads of repetitive uncreative mini-games, especially the fucking clock game. You have to turn your "Wiimote" in the direction you want to turn the clock hands, but then the bastard doesn't stop. The Wii should come with the Disclaimer; "Warning, May cause Carpal Tunnel Syndrome."

You must be the only one that experiences that problem....ADHD maybe? Graphics aren't as horrible as N64. Take a look at Metroid Prime 3.

 

[Larenxis]

You rule. The end.

Shouldn't more debates be executed through slam poetry?

And despite my avatar, I'm not picking sides here. I think Nintendo seems to be resting on it's laurels when it comes to games (I'm not on the edge of my seat waiting for a NEW character), but doing great things when it comes to platforms.

 

[TheTakenOne]

Shouldn't more debates be executed through slam poetry?

And despite my avatar, I'm not picking sides here. I think Nintendo seems to be resting on it's laurels when it comes to games (I'm not on the edge of my seat waiting for a NEW character), but doing great things when it comes to platforms.

Unfortunately I can't freestyle worth a damn so that would put me at a severe disadvantage.

I think Nintendo saves new characters for Intelligent Systems to create because those bastards can whip out 40+ original characters in a single game. It's rather surprising when you're used to the same thing from Nintendo and then IS can pull a major cast of original characters straight from their ass.

I couldn't help but notice that your Yoshi avatar is specifically the Yoshi art for Super Mario RPG. Is that a coincidence or did you actually play that game? (Sue me, I'm an RPG nerd.)

 

[Larenxis]

Alas, it's one of the provided avatars. I haven't gotten around to making an original avatar yet.

 

[mintfresh]

*sigh* I do like Nintendo...but (there's always a 'but') I'm beginning to feel it wane. NES and SNES? Great, lots of brilliant games. N64, again lots of brilliant games. GC? Got off to a slow start, but made up for it in the end. The Wii though...it's fun, but it's too casual, I know Nintendo are trying to attract more casual gamers, and create a new market, but I don't feel they cater enough to their existing fans. The games are too easy, the only game I'm really looking forward to is SSBB, nothing else exciting is coming. The DS is a bit better, it too had a slow start, but quality games did come out for it, and it's redeemed itself, let's hope that the Wii can do the same, when are we going to get the kind of titles that we had on the GC? I know that it isn't Nintendo who made them, but they don't seem to be encouraging the kind of third party games the GC attracted, Eternal Darkness, Baten Kaitos, Paper Mario:TTYD (sure they did Super Paper Mario, but it just wasn't the same, it does indicate there may be some hope though).

Unfortunately, as casual gamers become an ever broader, easy to satisfy audience, we'll see this kind of dumbing down across the board, or so I fear. But there are some games that restore my faith; Portal, Ninja Gaiden 2, Fallout 3 (I hope anyway). Unfortunately these aren't for Nintendo consoles.

 

[Piorn]

The Wii looks pretty interesting,but there are only two or three games I'd buy. Mario Galaxy,Metroid Prime 3,and maybe Super Paper Mario. It just isn't worth the 250? in my opinion.
Same at the other consoles,the only reason for me to buy a 360 would be Banjo-Kazooie 3, and I couldn't even name a single PS3 game that I'd like to have.
I don't think consoles have so much future.
Nintendo should start making games for the PC.

 

[romitelli]

The Wii though...it's fun, but it's too casual

That is that exact reason why I won't buy a Wii, even if the price does drop to 5 bucks plus 10 coca-cola bottle caps.

My neighbour owns it, and at first it brought me excitement I hadn't had through a nintendo game since I learned of the special stage on Dr.Mario featuring Pamela Anderson. (Which was, sadly, untrue)

But, after some 20 minutes of stick-waggling yourself through colourful, insane-esque stages that almost every nintendo game offers, you just get tired of it. Wii sports does hold its own, but only if the gaming atmosphere involves beer, scantly-clothed women and stick-waggling of a different nature.

Buy it, but only if you are fanatic about nintendo, rich, or a twelve year old.

(Not defending any other console, to make myself clear. Until now the next generation has no appealing factor to me)

 

[FujinAkari]

Well, as for me, I love Nintendo. I didn't used too, I kinda divorced myself of the system with the N64 and had to play the staples at a friend's house, but have reaccepted the system into my home with the Wii, and I couldn't be more happy I did.

Its strange, but as I'm playing the Wii games, I realize that I'm actually having fun. I slaved away in Final Fantasy games for nearly a decade before now and, while I enjoyed -beating- the games, I don't know that I really enjoyed playing them.

With the Wii... I've been enjoying all the games I've played. Zelda, Mario Galexy, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, and even Mario Party 8 have become mainstays. When people come over, it tends to be either a boardgame or Mario Party.

I'm sure the anti-Nintendoers will call me a drooling fangirl because I actually like the system I bought, and will insist on calling the Wii a gimmick, and I suppose they are entitled to their opinion. I find it ironic that the same people who deride games for ceaselessly repeating themselves get up in arms whenever a -console- chooses to tred new ground, but then these are the same people who lambast games for never altering the story, and then call all the changes gimmicks that don't matter.

As a final note... though I haven't beaten it, Metroid Prime 3 is an absolutely beautiful game. It seems to be reinventing the Metroid saga. Samus is actually interacting with the Federation, mentioned but unseen for oh-so long, and is fighting alongside Federation Marines and other Hunters.

Is it a completely different game? Of course not! Its a sequel, how retarded would it be to have a sequel completely alter the game? But it does open up a lot of new ground and lay a much firmer plot to the game than "You're on a planet. Don't die."

 

[alexhayter86]

I've been a little disapointed by Metroid Prime 3. For me, its too 'by the numbers', too regimented in plethoras of objectives, door unlocking, meaningless expansions, etc.

It wasn't as atmospheric or immersive as I'd hoped it would be.

The worst thing is how unenjoyable I've found the combat. The control scheme is admirable enough, but I can only enjoy shooting fat plasma bursts at stick-figure aliens for so long. So without decent combat, the control scheme loses quite a lot of its appeal.

And the boss fights are rather hard in comparison to the preceeding levels... it goes from very easy/never dying to oh shit/this is hard. Might be a redundant point but I still didn't enjoy those fights.

I'll cut myself short to avoid straying totally off topic. At the end of the day I think that the Wii is a little disapointing in some respects but ultimately still worth owning. You have to admit, there's a very disheartening crap games to good games ratio. Like the DS (which I also own), there aren't enough truly classy games. But there's a few, and I like games, so I'll buy into the consoles at least to sample the superior delights.

 

[hickwarrior]

errm, cheeze, what are you saying? Can you explain it for a thicky like me?

 

[Kairiaku]

I think whoever you are you should really respect them being the oldest console in the "console war" at the moment, but it doesn't seem they are getting the attention they deserve in the more "serious gaming" community. Disappointing really, I myself bought a Wii and did not keep it for very long, never really hit the spot for me personally.

 

[cattypat]

As I've gotten older and found myself less willing to shell out my entire wallet for a bunch of wack-a-mole mini games, I'm seeing nintendo as simply a target of age. This is not a negative thing, it's just young people are more experimentative and willing to waste a bit of time to get a little reward, whilst older people like being told what to do, or do what they want to do, then and now or never.

They are THE master of making games for those who like cute crazyness and speedy cartoon violence. Nothing is ever explained as clearly as an Western game, so you've really got to work stuff out yourself. Although most of the time it ain't that difficult, you do have to experiment a little.

The problem with this is that after jumping on that 100th goomba, you start to want something a bit more real or sinister. Also no immediate documentation in game can put off oldies immediatly, because it becomes a kind of standard for most.
In a shooting game, you already know what a guns gonna do, and you can guess what your supposed to do with that gun, and where its best to aim that gun, all you then need is the objectives and off you trot. Drop the same person in front of a mario game and you have no idea what they'll get up to, they may even give up really quick without some help soon.

You could see it's a bit of a question of taste, but only a few recent nintendo games, metroid prime and resident evil for example, added some adult entertainment to its old staples.
I think also as you can see from the Wii, people were tired of Nintendo games by the playstation generation, but now that it's mostly over, are returning to their old favorites and finding the fun again.
Its completly perplexed their competition, for if PS3 or Xbox360 had the support of these players, we'd probably see a realistic chance of a home living room games network around the world with millions of users. Instead we're going back to where it all started!

 

[BigText]

If anything does the same thing over and over again, if it's ridiculously fun it doesn't matter. Many people, including myself, would be pissed and wonder what the hell Nintendo was thinking if they suddenly said that there would be no more Mario games. Same thing for Zelda and Metroid. Lots of people are pissed and say that Nintendo is just redoing the same old things over and over again, but Nintendo puts a few new ideas here and there in every game that keeps it fresh and, as always, fun. Many more people would be disappointed at a lack of a Mario game than people who would be happy about it.